[Python-Dev] PPC Tiger buildbot going down for an upgrade

2010-10-12 Thread Bill Janssen
I've found a dual-processor G4 to run the PPC Tiger buildbot on (it's currently an old e Mac), and I plan to take this buildbot down tomorrow, Wednesday, to upgrade. Bill ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch making the current email package (mostly) support bytes

2010-10-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:01:57 am l...@rmi.net wrote: > So my point is just this: Change for change's sake is truly not > what most Python users want.  If Python core developers want 3.X > to become as popular as 2.X, they should be less concerned with > posts on this list or hands at a conference, t

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Assume, for the sake of the argument, that we patched the > MSI so it (optionally) added the installing version of Python > (and, optionally ./scripts) to the PATH. What, then, do we > do with existing PATH entries which point to older/other Python > installations? Option (a) says: clear them > a

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Tim Golden
On 12/10/2010 7:17 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:33:52 +0200, =?windows-1252?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?= wrote: So as well as pysetup.py/.exe I would like pysetup-3.2.py / .exe on Windows please. (I'd really like a python-3.2.exe as well.) Please submit a patch to the i

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:33:52 +0200, =?windows-1252?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?= wrote: > > So as well as pysetup.py/.exe I would like pysetup-3.2.py / .exe on > > Windows please. (I'd really like a python-3.2.exe as well.) > > Please submit a patch to the installer, then. > > I'm still skeptic

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> So as well as pysetup.py/.exe I would like pysetup-3.2.py / .exe on > Windows please. (I'd really like a python-3.2.exe as well.) Please submit a patch to the installer, then. I'm still skeptical about adding PATH, because a) I find that fairly invasive, and despise long paths myself (it hur

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch making the current email package (mostly) support bytes

2010-10-12 Thread lutz
ba...@python.org wrote in the full post below: > I'm reminded of a survey Guido conducted at some long past > Python conference. He asked (paraphrasing): raise your hand > if you think Python is changing too fast. Lots of hands went > up. Then he asked, raise your hand if you have a feature you

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: >Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > >> If that's the case what would I type in the command prompt in order to >> install a module? >> "C:\PythonXX\pysetup.exe"? >> If so I would strongly miss old "setup.py install". > >Another thing bothers me about this. Wit

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Paul Moore wrote: ... > I would assume (am I wrong?) that the canonical way of installing > modules on Windows for "non-advanced" users under distutils2 would > still be to download and run a binary installer. Yes this won't change. Regards Tarek

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.2 alpha 3

2010-10-12 Thread Georg Brandl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the third and final alpha preview release of Python 3.2. Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and stabilize the Python 3.x line. Since the final release of Python 2.7,

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Foord
On 12/10/2010 12:55, Paul Moore wrote: On 12 October 2010 00:42, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: I know. My point was you can't do it by default and installing a module is something even a less experienced user usually does. Typing "C:\PythonXX\pysetup" is harder compared to "setup.py install" and sol

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Paul Moore
On 12 October 2010 00:42, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > I know. My point was you can't do it by default and installing a > module is something even a less experienced user usually does. > Typing "C:\PythonXX\pysetup" is harder compared to "setup.py install" > and solving this problem by modifying your

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Foord
On 12/10/2010 00:11, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: Wouldn't be kinda weird that one can open the command prompt and run "pysetup" but not "python" on Windows? I recall an old issue on the bug tracker in which the latter proposal was widely discussed and finally rejected for reasons I can't remember (a