Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

> Keeping the knowledge in the makefile or script in the source tree would > let the rules change across branches without affecting the build master. > Though if having more specific rules in the master was easier, I'd be > fine with that too. Intuitively, I find the set of batch files used for Wi

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)

anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Anatoly, I am now answering only in Distutils-SIG. >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, anatoly techtonik >> wrote: >> [..] > > Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with all this > message duplicat

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for commit access

Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> That's an ideal case, but it doesn't work, because more or less senior >> committers are already too busy. If they do not even have time to >> review issues, followup on patches - how can they monitor who reached >> the appropriate karma level? > > The practice proves to

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

Bill Janssen wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: [..] >> It would take even more expertise to capture the remaining pieces in the >> script, too, and no living person has that much expertise to write the >> script (perhaps there are one or two people, and they don't have the time). > > Well, God forb

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Michael Foord wrote: >> >>> Building the Mac installer requires volunteer time which I'm not sure >>> that more hardware will fix - compiling a full build of Python for Mac >>> OS X (with all the Python modules like Tkinter etc) requires expertise >>> which only a few peo

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:20, anatoly techtonik > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > > > >>>I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker > >>> doesn't have

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3147 ready for pronouncement and merging

Guido van Rossum wrote: [...] >> Implementation strategy >> === >> >> This feature is targeted for Python 3.2, solving the problem for those >> and all future versions. It may be back-ported to Python > > Is there time given that 2.7b1 was released? > I would hope we have le

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3147 ready for pronouncement and merging

Comments inline. Nothing showstopping, mostly just spewing obscure background information... Overall, congratulations! I'm fine with the implementation going in and the PEP being marked as accepted as long as you get to the clarifications I suggest below soon after. --Guido On Tue, Apr 13, 2010

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > Not sure what you mean by "make available" - I thought this is just a > matter of configure options? Building as a framework, yes. But I think there's some steps to take to then have the test python binary use the locally built framework while running the tests (sinc

Re: [Python-Dev] patch for review: __import__ documentation

Yes, we have different opinions. My personal take is to wait a week before you email python-dev if there has been no activity. That is enough time for people interested in the patch to get to it as we all have different schedules. Any faster and it feels like noise on the list to me. Brett (from h

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:41, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <4bc697d2.4020...@v.loewis.de>, > "Martin v. Lowis" wrote: > > Greg Ewing wrote: > > > Michael Foord wrote: > > >> Building Python requires, I believe, the XCode development tools to be > > >> installed. Even then, building a full ver

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

> If it were working that could be of use. It would not be able to run OS > X 10.6 but having a 10.5 system PPC system as a buildbot would certainly > be useful; it should be fine for the default installer configuration > builds. (Alas, I don't expect to be anywhere in the vicinity in the > f

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

In article <19399.11323.946604.992...@montanaro.dyndns.org>, s...@pobox.com wrote: > Ned> Any idea what type of machine it is and where it is currently > Ned> located? > > I seem to recall it is/was a G4 XServe. My guess as to location would be at > xs4all.nl. If it were working that c

Re: [Python-Dev] urlparse - to parse IPv6 URL in 2.7 b2 ?

Martin v. Löwis v.loewis.de> writes: > > [...] > 2. My personal recommendation is to allow it: while it *is* a new > feature, it is a feature that doesn't change any API. That's my opinion too. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-De

Re: [Python-Dev] urlparse - to parse IPv6 URL in 2.7 b2 ?

Senthil Kumaran wrote: > http://bugs.python.org/issue2987 > > This deals with a feature request of parsing an IPv6 URL according to > standards. The patch is pretty complete and we have good test coverage > too. > > Is it okay to include this in Python 2.7 b2 release? It would be a > worthy add

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

> In the first builds, I have noticed that the build master seems to > execute the builds as a Unix system, so isn't building with the > universalsdk option or as a framework, though the latter would > probably need a bit of glue to make the framework available just > locally to the buildbot proces

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

Ned Deily wrote: > In article <4bc61278.7020...@v.loewis.de>, > "Martin v. Lowis" wrote: >> Ned Deily wrote: >>> That *is* something that the PSF could help with. I >>> would be happy to help with that myself, although my time to do so will >>> be very limited for the next few weeks. >> The PS

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

>>> What's non-trivial about it? >> Building a DMG file, in a way that the output will actually work on most >> other systems. > > As Ronald pointed out, the installer build script does all of the dirty > work of building the install disk image (the .dmg file), including > downloading and build

Re: [Python-Dev] patch for review: __import__ documentation

Yes, we have different opinions. My personal take is to wait a week before you email python-dev if there has been no activity. That is enough time for people interested in the patch to get to it as we all have different schedules. Any faster and it feels like noise on the list to me. Brett (from h

Re: [Python-Dev] patch for review: __import__ documentation

Yes, we have different opinions. My personal take is to wait a week before you email python-dev if there has been no activity. That is enough time for people interested in the patch to get to it as we all have different schedules. Any faster and it feels like noise on the list to me. Brett (from h

[Python-Dev] urlparse - to parse IPv6 URL in 2.7 b2 ?

http://bugs.python.org/issue2987 This deals with a feature request of parsing an IPv6 URL according to standards. The patch is pretty complete and we have good test coverage too. Is it okay to include this in Python 2.7 b2 release? It would be a worthy addition. -- Senthil ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

Ned> Any idea what type of machine it is and where it is currently Ned> located? I seem to recall it is/was a G4 XServe. My guess as to location would be at xs4all.nl. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:20, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > >>>I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker > >>> doesn't have an OS classifier or ability to add > >>> tags ? Since a number of issues reported seem to > > Just to r

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 02:31:23PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > We already have "Macintosh" and "Windows" in the multi-select component field. > It would be nice if the bug interface didn't grow more complicated than it > already is. +1 There isn't any need for yet another classification. --

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

Nick Coghlan gmail.com> writes: > > That's where the discussion started - whether or not moving that > information out to a separate field would actually be an improvement or > not. I don't use the tracker intensively enough to give a considered > opinion. For me, the less UI overhead the better

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Nick Coghlan gmail.com> writes: >> anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan >>> gmail.com>wrote: Or even a separate OS field with "Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, *BSD, Other" as the options? >>> It is not uncommon when code written o

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

Nick Coghlan gmail.com> writes: > > anatoly techtonik wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan > > gmail.com>wrote: > >> Or even a separate OS field with "Windows, Mac OS X, > >> Linux, *BSD, Other" as the options? > > > > It is not uncommon when code written on Unix can affect

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> Or even a separate OS field with "Windows, Mac OS X, >> Linux, *BSD, Other" as the options? > > It is not uncommon when code written on Unix can affect both MacOS and > Windows, so you need to be able to select bot

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of 2.7b1?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 14:43, David Bolen wrote: > Brian Curtin writes: > > > The tests are run on a native Win32 build as compiled by VS2008. The > > functionality is Win32 specific and wouldn't work on Cygwin, so the tests > > are skipped there. I believe Cygwin is used for kicking off the te

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

Whilst making Python easier to build on the Mac is certainly a worthy goal, the point of my post was to demonstrate (in reply to an email by Greg Ewing) *why* building a *full* Python from source was non-trivial. I personally only build Python from source to test changes to core-Python and am h

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

In article <4bc61278.7020...@v.loewis.de>, "Martin v. Lowis" wrote: > Ned Deily wrote: > > That *is* something that the PSF could help with. I > > would be happy to help with that myself, although my time to do so will > > be very limited for the next few weeks. > > The PSF still has a machin

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

In article <4bc63599.5020...@voidspace.org.uk>, Michael Foord wrote: > A build on my machine produces output similar to: > > > Python build finished, but the necessary bits to build these modules > were not found: > _bsddb third-party (Sleepycat) library needed (see the installer script) > d

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

In article <4bc697d2.4020...@v.loewis.de>, "Martin v. Lowis" wrote: > Greg Ewing wrote: > > Michael Foord wrote: > >> Building Python requires, I believe, the XCode development tools to be > >> installed. Even then, building a full version of Python - with *all* > >> the C extensions that are par

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:54 AM, wrote: > >    Bill> In any case, they shouldn't be needed on buildbots maintained by >    Bill> the PSF. > > Sure.  My question was related to humans building binary distributions > though.  Unless that becomes fully automated so the release manager can just > pus

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>>            I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker >>> doesn't have an OS classifier or ability to add >>> tags ? Since a number of issues reported seem to Just to remind about my +1 for user editable tags. >> There is one. In the Com

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

Ronald Oussoren writes: > Speaking of which... I have a mac-mini that could be used for a > buildbot. How much work is needed to kickstart a buildbot, taking > into account that I'd prefer to have a buildbot with different > configure-flags that the default unix build (that is, I want to test > a