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On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
am happy to announce the second release candidate for Python 3.0.
This is a release candidate, so while it is not suitable for
production environments, we strongly encourage yo
Brett Cannon wrote:
> I have started the DVCS PEP which can be seen at
> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64 . Not much is there
> beyond the rationale, usage scenarios I plan to use, and what other
> sections I plan to write.
>
Brett:
Would you care to get a PEP number allocated to
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> In other words, *D*VCS is about keeping and (optionally) communicating
> *local* history, not about reducing the number of VC-related operations
> you do.
The bit I left out where it can get painful is when the patch call to go
back to the first task fails due to chang
Brett Cannon writes:
> I consider that a perk feature.
Let's not judge which features are perks or essential quite yet. (If
the number of features/scenarios/whatnot becomes a burden on you, then
you must triage them, of course.)
But a lot of people will not know what the features are unless th
Nick Coghlan writes:
> If it isn't already there, suspending work on something to work on
> something else would make a very nice scenario to cover, as it is
> something even the core devs sometimes have to deal with.
>
> I'd expect any DVCS to be able to handily beat what I currently do
>
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 16:47, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>>
>>> You need not feel that way. It's not you---the flexibility of dVCS
>>> means that until the Powers That Be promulgate a Workflow, this will
>
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
>> You need not feel that way. It's not you---the flexibility of dVCS
>> means that until the Powers That Be promulgate a Workflow, this will
>> be ambiguous.
>
> You're absolutely right. Adopting a dvcs opens up a m
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 14:52, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
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>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 06:23, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brett Cannon wrote:
I have ema
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On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 06:23, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Brett Cannon wrote:
I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific
DVCS to seeif they are willing to fi
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 05:04, Dirkjan Ochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brett Cannon python.org> writes:
>> So my first choice for Mercurial fell through. If you would like to
>> represent Mercurial, let me know.
>
> I can represent Mercurial, though it may be (more?) helpful if some of the
> M
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 06:23, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brett Cannon wrote:
>>
>> I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific
>> DVCS to seeif they are willing to fill in the usage scenarios for me
>> along with converting the dev FAQ so that we all have a
Tres Seaver schrieb:
> Georg Brandl wrote:
>> Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb:
>>> Tres Seaver writes:
>>>
>>> > svn doesn't have any true tags, AFAIK: everything is a branch.
>>>
>>> Yow! I couldn't have imagined that would be true. And didn't
>
>> It's not exactly true either. svn doesn't ha
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On Nov 6, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
If it isn't already there, suspending work on something to work on
something else would make a very nice scenario to cover, as it is
something even the core devs sometimes have to deal with.
Indeed.
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On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
You need not feel that way. It's not you---the flexibility of dVCS
means that until the Powers That Be promulgate a Workflow, this will
be ambiguous.
You're absolutely right. Adopting a dvcs
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On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I disagree. This doesn't scale to Python size. For distributed VC to
work, somebody has to maintain a repo 24x7. Python has to do this for
the trunk; the additional burden for contributed pat
Brett Cannon wrote:
I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific
DVCS to seeif they are willing to fill in the usage scenarios for me
along with converting the dev FAQ so that we all have a clear way to
learn how to use the things. If any of the people I emailed turn down
be
2008/11/6 Dirkjan Ochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Brett Cannon python.org> writes:
>> So my first choice for Mercurial fell through. If you would like to
>> represent Mercurial, let me know.
>
> I can represent Mercurial, though it may be (more?) helpful if some of the
> Mercurial-using python-dev
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can represent Mercurial, though it may be (more?) helpful if some of the
> Mercurial-using python-dev regulars can occasionally step in.
I like mercurial, so I'll do this if I see something, but I don't use
it for anyth
Brett Cannon python.org> writes:
> So my first choice for Mercurial fell through. If you would like to
> represent Mercurial, let me know.
I can represent Mercurial, though it may be (more?) helpful if some of the
Mercurial-using python-dev regulars can occasionally step in.
Cheers,
Dirkjan
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Georg Brandl wrote:
> Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb:
>> Tres Seaver writes:
>>
>> > svn doesn't have any true tags, AFAIK: everything is a branch.
>>
>> Yow! I couldn't have imagined that would be true. And didn't
>
> It's not exactly true eithe
> > >* Will a DVCS allow simpler operation as if we are still using a
> > > centralized system like CVS or Subversion?
>
> Yes and no. There is nothing to prevent a formal workflow like that
> in CVS/Subversion. However, the separation of "commit" into "record
> && push to authoritativ
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd expect any DVCS to be able to handily beat what I currently do with SVN:
Yes, it does. I have extensive experience in bzr, less in git (but
vastly prefer it since I have been using it), and both are relatively
good fo
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> I don't know about svn; I find it pretty painful to use for anything
> but sequential tasking (update ... hack ... commit ... repeat). But
> if you look at http://git.kernel.org/, you'll see a thicket of repos,
> each of which probably contains a few to a few hundred[1
Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb:
> Tres Seaver writes:
>
> > svn doesn't have any true tags, AFAIK: everything is a branch.
>
> Yow! I couldn't have imagined that would be true. And didn't
It's not exactly true either. svn doesn't have either tags or branches,
it has only a single (directory
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