Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Christian Heimes
Nick Coghlan wrote: As Jesse points out, some of that robustness comes from long-standing bugs in the core getting fixed as a result of the addition of the multiprocessing unit tests to the standard library test suite. Not trying to discourage the project, just pointing out that it may not be as

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
Skip Montanaro wrote: > (Note: I'm backporting because the Python 2.6 version appears to be much more > robust than the 0.52 third-party release.) As Jesse points out, some of that robustness comes from long-standing bugs in the core getting fixed as a result of the addition of the multiprocessing

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Raymond Hettinger
From: "Doug Hellmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems like a large undertaking. Not necessarily. It can be done incrementally, starting with things like str.split() that almost no one understands completely. It should be put here and there where it adds some clarity. I'm sure you're not un

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: Raymond Hettinger wrote: * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations when they have to build equivalents to CPython. * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended to do. * Will confer

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger wrote: * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations when they have to build equivalents to CPython. * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended to do. * Will confer benefits similar to test driven development where the documen

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Jesse Noller
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesse Noller wrote: >> >> Do we want to start a google code project for this given all three of >> us are interested in this? :) > > Do we need (yet) another Google code project? Isn't svn.python.org > sufficient for our

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Scott Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raymond Hettinger wrote: >> * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations >> when they have to build equivalents to CPython. >> >> * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Christian Heimes
Jesse Noller wrote: Do we want to start a google code project for this given all three of us are interested in this? :) Do we need (yet) another Google code project? Isn't svn.python.org sufficient for our needs? I'm -0 on a Google code project but I'll give you my gmail account if you insist

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Jesse Noller
Do we want to start a google code project for this given all three of us are interested in this? :) On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skip Montanaro wrote: >> >> I'd like to try backporting the multiprocessing module to Python 2.4. My >> first >> probl

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Dial
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations > when they have to build equivalents to CPython. > > * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended to > do. > > * Will confer benefits similar to test driven development where

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Skip Montanaro
> I had been approached to do the exact same thing, are you trying to > back port the trunk version (2.6) or py3000? I'm trying to backport from 2.6. It appears that the buffer stuff is completely new though (backported from Python 3.0). S ___ Python

[Python-Dev] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Skip Montanaro
I'd like to try backporting the multiprocessing module to Python 2.4. My first problem appears to be the reliance on a complete(?) rewrite of the buffer stuff. Any clues about transforming this code would be much appreciated. (Note: I'm backporting because the Python 2.6 version appears to be mu

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Jesse Noller
Also note, for python 2.4/2.5 you are going to *need* the patch to bug http://bugs.python.org/issue874900 On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Skip, > > I had been approached to do the exact same thing, are you trying to > back port the trunk version (2.6)

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?

2008-10-16 Thread Jesse Noller
Hi Skip, I had been approached to do the exact same thing, are you trying to back port the trunk version (2.6) or py3000? On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Skip Montanaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to try backporting the multiprocessing module to Python 2.4. My > first > problem appe