Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

> 3352Deficiencies in multiprocessing/threading API > - - Medium priority > - - This one is getting some love, so I'm confident this will get fixed before > beta 3. > This is complete on 2.6 as of r65864 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 1179[CVE-2007-4965] Integer overflow in imageop module >> - - High priority >> - - This will block final release and I think it needs to be fixed for this >> beta. Submitted the patch to 2.5 and 2.6. -- --Guido

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > My understanding is that if there is a system Python, you shouldn't >> > change it. Ever. >> >> Huge, big, honkin' +1 from me on that. Besides, for a system Python, >> you want your distribution to manage packages, not

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

On 19-Aug-2008, at 19:28 , Bill Janssen wrote: My understanding is that if there is a system Python, you shouldn't change it. Ever. Huge, big, honkin' +1 from me on that. Besides, for a system Python, you want your distribution to manage packages, not setuptools, otherwise you confuse -- a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1878class attribute cache failure (regression) > - - Medium priority > - - Guido, there are some design choices that need your decision. I'd like to > fix this for beta 3 if it's going to be fixed at all, because I sus

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, An

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: If it's about silencing warnings, then how about putting it in the >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: My understanding is that if there is a system Python, you shouldn't change it. Ever. Huge, big, honkin' +1 from me on that. Besides, for a system Python, you want your distribution to manage packa

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

> > My understanding is that if there is a system Python, you shouldn't > > change it. Ever. > > Huge, big, honkin' +1 from me on that. Besides, for a system Python, > you want your distribution to manage packages, not setuptools, > otherwise you confuse -- and probably break -- your syste

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: If it's about silencing warnings, then how about putting it in the >>

Re: [Python-Dev] ImportError message suggestion

I think this is not the place to be discussing the patch (the tracker is), but while I think of it, I'll just say: You need to DECREF the fn variable (both PyObject_GetAttrStringand PyString_FromString ret

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

> I've certainly heard many tales of Mac users coming to grief because > they decided to overwrite their system Python, or tried to be clever and > run multiple interpreters (which is usually somewhat less disastrous). > > I guess this underlines the fact that Apple don't really want the hoi >

Re: [Python-Dev] ImportError message suggestion

> ImportError: cannot import name annotate from /usr//image.pyc That could be handy. Not sure it's necessary, however, and exposes some system information in the error message. I can imagine a web app which prints out exception messages, and this would mean the server file structure is printed t

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

Brett Cannon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>> If it's about silencing warnings, then how about putting it in the >>> warnings >>> module? >> >> That sounds good to me, and would be very reasona

Re: [Python-Dev] ImportError message suggestion

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008, Kent Tenney wrote: > > I can't write the C code myself, or evaluate the patch. Maybe not, but maybe you can upload them to the bug tracker -- that's the only way this will get looked at. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Adopt A P

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

[Removed pydotorg from the recipients; this has nothing to do with the website.] On Aug 19, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: Just to add to this - with the advent of PEP 370[1], we now have the ability to use per-user site-packages directories. This neatly sidesteps the problem (for the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I *thought* (relative Mac newbie), the standard advice was that if you >> want to install extension modules then you should install your own version >> of Python and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1878class attribute cache failure (regression) - - Medium priority - - Guido, there are some design choices that n

[Python-Dev] ImportError message suggestion

Howdy, I brought this up on c.l.p., was encouraged to try it here. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/88474a32877026fc/ == from image import annotate ImportError: cannot import name annotate I found the problem via

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Fred Drake wrote: My understanding is that if there is a system Python, you shouldn't change it. Ever. Huge, big, honkin' +1 from me on that. Besides, for a system Python, you want your distribution to manage pack

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello everyone, > > I am going to try to release the last planned beta of 2.6 and 3.0 this > Wednesday. Looking at the stable buildbots and showstopper bugs indicates > s

[Python-Dev] Hanging out on freenode IRC #python-dev

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I will be hanging out as much as possible over the next two days on the #python-dev channel on freenode IRC. If you have any last minute decisions you need, that will be the most immediate way to get in touch with me. Modulo work commitments,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *thought* (relative Mac newbie), the standard advice was that if you want to install extension modules then you should install your own version of Python and not mess with the system version. My understanding is that if there is a syste

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

Leonardo Santagada wrote: -1 to use mac ports python as the base python On 18/08/2008, at 22:18, Bill Janssen wrote: The official Mac Python should be an OS X application, with an icon, living in /Applications, ideally with a Mac-standard editor app (the 2.5.1 I have has IDLE), etc. No, pr

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we help pythonmac.org?

My two cents: the link to pythonmac.org should be removed, especially for downloading an installer for Python. The main 2.5.x download pages already have a binary installer for OSX (10.3.9 or later), the copy on pythonmac.org is just that: an (outdated) copy of the installer on the main p

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

> Bill Janssen wrote: >>> I strongly recommend that we *NOT* make macports.org the main, >>> official Mac OS X version of Python. Secondary is fine, but not >>> primary. Macports is what the name says: it's a system of Mac ports of >>> Linux packages, mostly command-line only. >> >> I agree with Da