Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r61264 - in python/trunk: Lib/test/test_os.py Misc/NEWS

2008-03-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Trent Nelson wrote: > Hurrah, 'x86 W2k8 trunk' has just experienced its first green build > and test! Thanks to everyone that committed the various patches I > sent out in such a timely fashion. > > Martin, does this mean I can have a slave set up for x64 now? }:> Versprochen ist versprochen :-)

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation for ability to execute zipfiles & directories

2008-03-05 Thread Georg Brandl
Nick Coghlan schrieb: > Georg Brandl wrote: >> Steve Holden schrieb: >>> Paul Moore wrote: On 04/03/2008, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we need a new appendix to the tutorial which goes into detail about > the CPython interpreter's command line options, environment varia

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler used to build Python for Windows

2008-03-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I think the best lesson here is Tcl. Because it uses stubs mechanism, > you don't need to depend on tclXX.dll, you don't deal with really > direct implementation details, you don't care about runtimes, > everything is much easier. Maybe it's possible (and not too late) for > Python to somehow emb

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r61264 - in python/trunk: Lib/test/test_os.py Misc/NEWS

2008-03-05 Thread Trent Nelson
Hurrah, 'x86 W2k8 trunk' has just experienced its first green build and test! Thanks to everyone that committed the various patches I sent out in such a timely fashion. Martin, does this mean I can have a slave set up for x64 now? }:> Trent. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL

Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3 (was: Re: Buildbots for trunk are all red)

2008-03-05 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On 3/4/08, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, it is my aim to keep bsddb in stdlib, providing a stable and > featureful module. I think keeping bsddb development inside python svn > is not appropiate. Currently (I could change idea), my approach will be > keeping pybssdb as a separa

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler used to build Python for Windows

2008-03-05 Thread Alexey Borzenkov
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mingw tends to be rather more stable (though not itself without the > occasional library compatibility issue), and more freely available. Not all extensions can be built using mingw (pywin32 comes to mind immediately). And

[Python-Dev] Optimizing with.

2008-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Yasskin
I've got a patch in http://bugs.python.org/issue2179 that optimizes the bytecode generated by a with statement by tucking the context_manager.__exit__ method onto the stack. It saves 2 opcodes, 8 bytes, and about .5us for each with block at the cost of an extra stack entry for the duration of the b

[Python-Dev] Hello

2008-03-05 Thread andrew rainwater
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Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler used to build Python for Windows

2008-03-05 Thread Steve Holden
Greg Ewing wrote: > Steven Bethard wrote: >> Is this mainly a request to use more open source tools? Because if >> the concern is just cost, Python 2.6 and 3.0 compile with the free >> Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Express editions. > > I don't think it's only about cost, it's about not > being re

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiler used to build Python for Windows

2008-03-05 Thread Greg Ewing
Steven Bethard wrote: > Is this mainly a request to use more open source tools? Because if > the concern is just cost, Python 2.6 and 3.0 compile with the free > Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Express editions. I don't think it's only about cost, it's about not being reliant on tools that appear an

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation reorganization

2008-03-05 Thread Greg Ewing
Georg Brandl wrote: > Adam Olsen schrieb: > >>Another example is the use of BNF, which although dominant in its >>field, it provides a steep learning curve for most programmers. > > We could of course accompany each BNF-described item with an example. An alternative to BNF would be syntax diagram

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation reorganization

2008-03-05 Thread Greg Ewing
Adam Olsen wrote: > The term "Displays" is pretty obscure as well, Hmmm, I'd call them "constructor expressions" or some such. -- Greg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: ht

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows buildbots randomly die with twisted ConnectionLost errors?

2008-03-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm not sure if I should read into the fact that it's occurring after > networking-oriented tests like test_httplib and test_ftplib. Running > rt.bat on the resulting build manually doesn't indicate any errors in > these tests. Have other Windows buildbot owners seen this? Notice that it also

Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3

2008-03-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> That said, it is my aim to keep bsddb in stdlib, providing a stable and > featureful module. I think keeping bsddb development inside python svn > is not appropiate. I think it would be helpful if you could analyze the crashes that bsddb caused on Windows. Just go back a few revisions in the sub

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch for trunk test_winsound.py (fixes my buildbot)

2008-03-05 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > While the patches are appreciated, please submit them to the tracker at > > bugs.python.org rather than mailing them directly to this list. > > This comment doesn't apply to your recent posts - look

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Kline
Mike Meyer wrote: > I think lxml is the best Python XML library that meets his > requirements, and it would make my life a lot easier if it were part > of the standard library. +1 (!) -- Bob Kline http://www.rksystems.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows buildbots randomly die with twisted ConnectionLost errors?

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Heller
Trent Nelson schrieb: > Had a chat with some Twisted/buildbot folk and they can confirm > they've seen it as well on Windows. They've given me a few things to > look into. Out of interest, how are you running your buildbot? Via > the command line in an interactive desktop session, as a service,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-ideas] new super redux (better late than never?)

2008-03-05 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/3/5, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > (Bringing this from python-ideas, Guido is talking about PEP 3135) > > > > Ehhh! The PEP's "reference implementation" is useless and probably > > doesn't even work. T

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows buildbots randomly die with twisted ConnectionLost errors?

2008-03-05 Thread Trent Nelson
Had a chat with some Twisted/buildbot folk and they can confirm they've seen it as well on Windows. They've given me a few things to look into. Out of interest, how are you running your buildbot? Via the command line in an interactive desktop session, as a service, or as a scheduled task, or

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:01:14 +1300 Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Trying to install it from the repository is a PITA, because > > it uses both the easyinstall and Pyrex > > It shouldn't depend on Pyrex as long as it's distributed > with the generated C files. If it'

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:44:32 -0800 Ned Deily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:42:49 + (UTC) Medhat Gayed > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > lxml is good but not written in python and difficult to

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows buildbots randomly die with twisted ConnectionLost errors?

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Heller
Trent Nelson schrieb: > I've started to see my build slave dying every so often with a > twisted error half way through tests: ... test_htmlparser > test_httplib > > remoteFailed: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): > twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the oth

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation for ability to execute zipfiles & directories

2008-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Georg Brandl wrote: > Steve Holden schrieb: >> Paul Moore wrote: >>> On 04/03/2008, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do we need a new appendix to the tutorial which goes into detail about the CPython interpreter's command line options, environment variables and details on what

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-ideas] new super redux (better late than never?)

2008-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Facundo Batista wrote: > 2008/3/5, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > (Bringing this from python-ideas, Guido is talking about PEP 3135) > >> Ehhh! The PEP's "reference implementation" is useless and probably >> doesn't even work. The actual implementation is completely different. >> If

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-ideas] new super redux (better late than never?)

2008-03-05 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/3/5, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: (Bringing this from python-ideas, Guido is talking about PEP 3135) > Ehhh! The PEP's "reference implementation" is useless and probably > doesn't even work. The actual implementation is completely different. > If you want to help, a rewrite of the

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch for trunk test_winsound.py (fixes my buildbot)

2008-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Trent Nelson wrote: > winsound.Beep fails for me on the 'x86 2k8 trunk' build slave, which > is a virtual Windows Server 2008 instance running under Hyper-V. Not > surprisingly, there's not a single audio-related device on this > system. The attached patch to test_winsound.py incorporates the > _

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch for trunk test_winsound.py (fixes my buildbot)

2008-03-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan wrote: > While the patches are appreciated, please submit them to the tracker at > bugs.python.org rather than mailing them directly to this list. This comment doesn't apply to your recent posts - looks like those have all been checked in already ;) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan