Re: [Python-Dev] Any Emacs tips for core developers?

2008-02-03 Thread skip
Brett> I noticed on the download page that http://www.python.org/emacs Brett> is listed as the place to get your modes for Python development Brett> (which seemed to lack any mention of Vim and the support in svn; Brett> a slight bias =). Is this true for core development as well?

Re: [Python-Dev] Any Emacs tips for core developers?

2008-02-03 Thread Neal Becker
Guido van Rossum wrote: > I believe recent versions of Emacs and Vim have Python support > standard. At least, it's been years since I last had to do anything to > install it. > > I've heard that there are two independent Python modes for Emacs -- > though they are suppose to be pretty similar. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Any Emacs tips for core developers?

2008-02-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
I believe recent versions of Emacs and Vim have Python support standard. At least, it's been years since I last had to do anything to install it. I've heard that there are two independent Python modes for Emacs -- though they are suppose to be pretty similar. I don't even know how to tell them apa

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon wrote: > Great! Just let me know if/when the vcbuild change is made to the > build.bat file and the Windows part of the slides are done. Done ;) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

[Python-Dev] Any Emacs tips for core developers?

2008-02-03 Thread Brett Cannon
I noticed on the download page that http://www.python.org/emacs is listed as the place to get your modes for Python development (which seemed to lack any mention of Vim and the support in svn; a slight bias =). Is this true for core development as well? Basically if someone can tell me the best pl

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 3, 2008 2:21 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: > > PCbuild/readme.txt says that pressing F6 will also build everything > > fine. Is that true as well? > > > > And what is the best way to just launch an interpreter? Just > > double-click the built executabl

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon wrote: > PCbuild/readme.txt says that pressing F6 will also build everything > fine. Is that true as well? > > And what is the best way to just launch an interpreter? Just > double-click the built executable? I assume sys.path will still be set > up properly to use the checkout. Buil

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 2, 2008 7:34 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: > > Anyway, to make the tutorial as useful as possible I need to worry > > about Windows users. But being an OS X/UNIX user, I don't know how to > > help these people. =) As or right now I am going to point th

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Does VS2008 (Express) coexist peacefully with VS2005, which I need to > retain for certain client projects? Depends on the installation order. For most purposes (executable files, include files, libraries, etc), they live in different file and registry spaces, so they coexist fine. The only iss

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden wrote: > Christian Heimes wrote: >> Does the VS Express Edition have the "vcbuild" command? The build bots >> are using vcbuild instead of devenv. The professional edition has it. >> >> c:\dev\python\trunk\PCbuild>vcbuild /useenv pcbuild.sln "Release|Win32" >> Microsoft (R) Visual C++ Pr

[Python-Dev] Fix of urgent exception pickling issue in Python 2.5.2, help needed

2008-02-03 Thread Jaroslav Pachola
As you may know, I recently posted a message about the following issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue1692335 . The issue has been reviewed by Guido van Rossum yesterday and as it seems there are some serious concerns about breaking the pickle protocol functionality and that's why I please the ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden wrote: > Christian Heimes wrote: >> Does the VS Express Edition have the "vcbuild" command? The build bots >> are using vcbuild instead of devenv. The professional edition has it. >> >> c:\dev\python\trunk\PCbuild>vcbuild /useenv pcbuild.sln "Release|Win32" >> Microsoft (R) Visual C++ Pr

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Tim Golden
Christian Heimes wrote: > Tim Golden wrote: >> Just a note for those using the Express Edition: the build.bat file >> which builds the Python project on the command line assumes that the >> name of the executable is devenv.exe. In fact, for "Visual Studio Express >> 2008 for C++" (or whatever it's

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Tim Golden wrote: > Just a note for those using the Express Edition: the build.bat file > which builds the Python project on the command line assumes that the > name of the executable is devenv.exe. In fact, for "Visual Studio Express > 2008 for C++" (or whatever it's called) the executable is vcex

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Steve Holden wrote: > Does VS2008 (Express) coexist peacefully with VS2005, which I need to > retain for certain client projects? I've VS2005 and VS2008 (both professional) on my box. I haven't run into problems and they are living happily together. Christian

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Steve Holden
Tim Golden wrote: > Christian Heimes wrote: >> I can provide some guidance for the poor Windows souls. :] The VS 2008 >> Express Edition makes it easy to compile Python on Windows. There is no >> need to install any extra SDK packages, additional compilers or whatsoever. > > [... snip loads of use

Re: [Python-Dev] Any tips to tell sprinter at PyCon about developing on Windows?

2008-02-03 Thread Tim Golden
Christian Heimes wrote: > I can provide some guidance for the poor Windows souls. :] The VS 2008 > Express Edition makes it easy to compile Python on Windows. There is no > need to install any extra SDK packages, additional compilers or whatsoever. [... snip loads of useful info ...] > The PCbuil

Re: [Python-Dev] Should a change in search order of directories in setup.py be backported?

2008-02-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Feb 3, 2008 12:08 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But should this be backported? It will change how extensions are > > compiled if there is more than one version on a machine. Not sure if > > we want people to suddenly have what they link against change in a > > micro releas

Re: [Python-Dev] A word of warning against using sqlite3 from MacPorts

2008-02-03 Thread Andrew MacIntyre
Brett Cannon wrote: {...} > Noticing that sqlite 3.5.5 was recently available I had MacPorts > update. Unfortunately this didn't fix things. I narrowed things down > to running test_ctypes before test_sqlite as the trigger. In order to > debug I wanted to use a version of sqlite that I had compil

Re: [Python-Dev] Should a change in search order of directories in setup.py be backported?

2008-02-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> But should this be backported? It will change how extensions are > compiled if there is more than one version on a machine. Not sure if > we want people to suddenly have what they link against change in a > micro release. I agree with Skip that this is a bug, so please backport it. Regards, Mar