Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 5, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Unless there's been a complete rewrite of epydoc since the last time I > looked at it, I'd have to give a very strong -1 against epydoc; it > has all > the problems of pydoc, plus new ones. I have

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

At 06:35 PM 1/5/2007 -0700, Fernando Perez wrote: >Ron Adam wrote: > > > Laurent Gautier wrote: > > > > From the top of my head, there might be "ipython" (the excellent > > > interactive console) is possibly using pydoc > > > (in any case, I would say that the authors would be interested in > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007/1/6, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Laurent Gautier wrote: [cut] > >> I think any API issues could be worked out. Are there any programs > >> you know of, > >> (yours?), that import pydoc besides the python console? > > > > What I did barely qualifies as a hack for my own usage -it won'

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

Ron Adam wrote: > Laurent Gautier wrote: > > From the top of my head, there might be "ipython" (the excellent > > interactive console) is possibly using pydoc > > (in any case, I would say that the authors would be interested in > > developments with pydoc) Certainly :) I'd like to ask whe

Re: [Python-Dev] Renaming Include/object.h

Andrea Griffini schrieb: > I've a partially related question... why isn't the module structure in > an include file .h > and is instead in Objects/moduleobject.c ? > For the cached lookup optimization I copied the definition but that's surely > a bad way to do it I however wondered if there we

[Python-Dev] Rewrite of import in Python source (sans docs) is complete

Finally, after a few months worth of work, I have finally gotten far enough in my import rewrite that I am willing to stick my neck out and say it is semantically complete! You can find it in the sandbox under import_in_py. So, details of this implementation. I implemented PEP 302 importers/loa

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

Talin wrote: > Ron Adam wrote: >> Larry Hastings wrote: >>> For those of us without eidetic memories, PEP 287 is "use >>> reStructuredText for docstrings": >>> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0287/ >> Thanks for the link. PEP 287 looks to be fairly general in that it expresses >> a >> gen

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

Laurent Gautier wrote: > Ron, > > Thanks for your detailed answer. > I inserted comments below. You welcome. >> I think any API issues could be worked out. Are there any programs >> you know of, >> (yours?), that import pydoc besides the python console? > > What I did barely qualifies a

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5.1 plans

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 01:47:13PM -0800, Neal Norwitz wrote: > We have the buildbots to help with this. According to http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/trunk/ we do not have a single working XP or Cygwin buildbot right now. > Definitely! I only did a really quick review. If you want someone to

Re: [Python-Dev] kill the cbsoutdoor.co.uk autoresponder

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 5, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:06 AM, Anthony Baxter wrote: > >> On Friday 05 January 2007 17:40, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >>> Whoever is subscribed to python-dev with a broken corporate >>> autoresponder that se

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 09:12:28PM +0800, Laurent Gautier wrote: > I suspect that this is aside from the rest of the python source tree. > (or I would anticipate peppered emails if the module is broken during > its early days > -and it will- ). Correct; it can be browsed at

Re: [Python-Dev] kill the cbsoutdoor.co.uk autoresponder

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:06 AM, Anthony Baxter wrote: > On Friday 05 January 2007 17:40, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >> Whoever is subscribed to python-dev with a broken corporate >> autoresponder that sends everyone who posts to the list this >> useless resp

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

On Friday, January 05, 2007, at 02:30PM, "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Talin wrote: > >> Rather than fixing on a standard markup, I would like to see support for >> a __markup__ module variable which specifies the specific markup >> language that is used in that module. Doc process

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

Talin wrote: > Rather than fixing on a standard markup, I would like to see support for > a __markup__ module variable which specifies the specific markup > language that is used in that module. Doc processors could inspect that > variable and then load the appropriate markup translator. Ideally,

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

No time to review this now, but I'd just like to say that the 1 thing I'd like to see is support for decent mathematical markup. I think at this point that support for latex markup is the way to achieve this. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007/1/5, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:01:22PM +0800, Laurent Gautier wrote: > > Well, if you are ok with having the source tree hosted in a > > SVN/CVS/alike I am on > > (opening an account on sourceforge or savannah -for example- would be > > the next step then,

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:01:22PM +0800, Laurent Gautier wrote: > Well, if you are ok with having the source tree hosted in a > SVN/CVS/alike I am on > (opening an account on sourceforge or savannah -for example- would be > the next step then, as it can take few days for a project to be > approved

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007/1/5, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Talin wrote: > > One issue that needs to be worked out, however, is the division of > > responsibility between markup processor and output formatter. Does a > > __markup__ plugin do both jobs, or does it just do parsing, and leave > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007/1/5, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [cut] > On the other hand, I've often seen the question of why pydoc does > both text and HTML generation instead of generating some intermediate > data structure from which both kinds of output are produced. The > answer is: I tried it. The result turne

Re: [Python-Dev] kill the cbsoutdoor.co.uk autoresponder

On Friday 05 January 2007 17:40, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > Whoever is subscribed to python-dev with a broken corporate > autoresponder that sends everyone who posts to the list this > useless response multiple times please unsubscribe yourself. Its > highly annoying and entirely useless since its

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Talin wrote: > One issue that needs to be worked out, however, is the division of > responsibility between markup processor and output formatter. Does a > __markup__ plugin do both jobs, or does it just do parsing, and leave > the formatting of output to the appropriate HTML / t

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

Ron, Thanks for your detailed answer. I inserted comments below. 2007/1/5, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Laurent Gautier wrote: [cut] > > > Introspection is probably already available in the separate module > > 'inspect', > > and what a code pydoc would have to do is model the documentation > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

On Friday 05 January 2007 02:49, Talin wrote: > One issue that needs to be worked out, however, is the division of > responsibility between markup processor and output formatter. Does a > __markup__ plugin do both jobs, or does it just do parsing, and leave > the formatting of output to the app