Re: [Python-Dev] help for a noob - version for a sharp ARM

2006-12-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
a Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking for advice on stripping down Python for an SBC to run Numpy > and Scipy. I have the following notes on the system > > We have code that requires recent versions of Numpy and Scipy. > The processor is a 32 bit Sharp ARM Sharp LH7A404 32 bit ARM9

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Talin wrote: > The original proposal was to make m[n] a synonym for m.group(n). > "group()" is clearly map-like in its behavior. so have you checked what exception m.group(n) raises when you try to access a group that doesn't exist ? frankly, speaking as the original SRE author, I will now fli

[Python-Dev] help for a noob - version for a sharp ARM

2006-12-07 Thread a Fred
I'm looking for advice on stripping down Python for an SBC to run Numpy and Scipy. I have the following notes on the system We have code that requires recent versions of Numpy and Scipy. The processor is a 32 bit Sharp ARM Sharp LH7A404 32 bit ARM922TDMI with 32MB of SDRAM. 512 MB flash di

Re: [Python-Dev] Spam and semi-spam and neo-spam

2006-12-07 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
"Kurt B. Kaiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't ever do that! Ahhh... sorry about that!! -- KBK ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/opti

Re: [Python-Dev] Spam and semi-spam and neo-spam

2006-12-07 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
"Karen Treanor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > More and more people seem to be having a selection of email addresses, > some for general contact, some for business, and one private one for > only a select few contacts. This isn't possible in business, as your > email address is by necessity public

Re: [Python-Dev] RealClearPolitics - Articles - Exit Rumsfeld, Smiling

2006-12-07 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
"Karen Treanor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunately this won't work for me, not by clicking on it or by > cutting and pasting it. The url below is wrapped, I assume you fixed the wrap? > > -Original Message- From: Kurt B. Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, 8 December

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-07 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Also, if the interpreter invokes, say, threading._shutdown(): > that's also "user-screwable", as a user may put something else > into threading._shutdown. Although it would require being somewhat more deliberate, since threading._shutdown clearly has something to do with

Re: [Python-Dev] features i'd like [Python 3000?] ... #4: interpolated strings ala perl

2006-12-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
"Alexey Borzenkov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It can even be simpler and more powerful: > > class evallookup: >def __init__(self, nsg, nsl): > self.nsg = nsg > self.nsl = nsl >def __getitem__(self, name): > return eval(name, self.nsg, self.nsl) Never use eval in any c

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
"Michael Urman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/6/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. > > Sure, but where is this rule that would be broken? I've seen it > invoked, but I've never felt it myself. I seriously thought of slici

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
Alastair Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7 Dec 2006, at 02:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: > > Alastair Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 7 Dec 2006, at 01:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: > >>> If we don't want > >>> slicing, or if prodicing a slice would produce a semantically > >>> questi

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding C99 bool to struct module

2006-12-07 Thread Thomas Heller
Martin v. Löwis schrieb: > #1610575 suggests to introduce the 't' code to support the _Bool > type where available, and uses char if it isn't available. > > Any objections to adding it? Not from me, although the patch should probably be extended to add a ctypes.c99_bool (or how it would be named

Re: [Python-Dev] features i'd like [Python 3000?] ... #4: interpolated strings ala perl

2006-12-07 Thread Alexey Borzenkov
On 12/4/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With the proper mapping, this is trivial... class namelookup: [...snip...] foo = foo() >>> print "%(foo.b)i + %(foo.a)i"%namelookup(locals()) 2 + 1 >>> It can even be simpler and more powerful: class evallookup: def __init__(self

[Python-Dev] Adding C99 bool to struct module

2006-12-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
#1610575 suggests to introduce the 't' code to support the _Bool type where available, and uses char if it isn't available. Any objections to adding it? Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 7 Dec 2006, at 18:54, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Alastair Houghton schrieb: >> How about we remove the word "foolish" from the debate? > > We should table the debate. If you really want that feature, > write a PEP. You want it, some people are opposed; a PEP is > the procedure to settle the diffe

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Aahz
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006, Alastair Houghton wrote: > > An example where it might be useful: > > m = re.match('(?:([0-9]+) ([0-9]+) ([0-9]+) ([0-9]+) (?Prect)' >'|([0-9]+) ([0-9]+) ([0-9]+) (?Pcircle))', >lineFromFile) > > if m['rect']: > drawRectangle(m[1:5])

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Alastair Houghton schrieb: > How about we remove the word "foolish" from the debate? We should table the debate. If you really want that feature, write a PEP. You want it, some people are opposed; a PEP is the procedure to settle the difference. Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Talin
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Talin wrote: > >> Maybe instead of considering a match object to be a sequence, a match >> object should be considered a map? > > sure, except for one small thing. from earlier in this thread: > > > Ka-Ping Yee wrote: > > > >> I'd say, don't pretend m is a sequence.

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Bill Janssen
> Maybe instead of considering a match object to be a sequence, a match > object should be considered a map? After all, we do have named, as well > as numbered, groups...? To me, that makes a lot more sense. Bill ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Talin wrote: > Maybe instead of considering a match object to be a sequence, a match > object should be considered a map? sure, except for one small thing. from earlier in this thread: > Ka-Ping Yee wrote: > >> I'd say, don't pretend m is a sequence. Pretend it's a mapping. >> Then the co

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Talin
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Michael Urman wrote: > >> The idea that slicing a match object should produce a match object >> sounds like a foolish consistency to me. > > well, the idea that adding m[x] as a convenience alias for m.group(x) > automatically turns m into a list-style sequence that also h

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Josiah Carlson
"Michael Urman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/7/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (and while you guys are waiting, I suggest you start a new thread where > > you discuss some other inconsistency that would be easy to solve with > > more code in the interpreter, like why "-", "/

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Michael Urman
On 12/6/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. Sure, but where is this rule that would be broken? I've seen it invoked, but I've never felt it myself. I seriously thought of slicing as returning a list of elements per range(start,sto

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Michael Urman
On 12/7/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (and while you guys are waiting, I suggest you start a new thread where > you discuss some other inconsistency that would be easy to solve with > more code in the interpreter, like why "-", "/", and "**" doesn't work > for strings, lists don't

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 7 Dec 2006, at 07:15, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Michael Urman wrote: > >> The idea that slicing a match object should produce a match object >> sounds like a foolish consistency to me. > > well, the idea that adding m[x] as a convenience alias for m.group(x) > automatically turns m into a list-sty

Re: [Python-Dev] [NPERS] Re: a feature i'd like to see in python #2: indexing of match objects

2006-12-07 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 7 Dec 2006, at 02:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: > Alastair Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7 Dec 2006, at 01:01, Josiah Carlson wrote: >>> If we don't want >>> slicing, or if prodicing a slice would produce a semantically >>> questionable state, then lets not do it. >> >> ...if you return