Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Fredrik Lundh schrieb: > maybe we could just ask distributors to prepare a page that describes > what portions of the standard distribution they do include, and in what > packages they've put the various components, and link to those from the > library reference and/or the wiki or FAQ? is there

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Like I said, it's possible to split Python without making things >> complicated for newbies. > > You may have that said, but I don't believe its truth. For example, > most distributions won't include Tkinter in the "standard" Python > installation: Tkinter depends on _tk

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Jan Claeys schrieb: > Like I said, it's possible to split Python without making things > complicated for newbies. You may have that said, but I don't believe its truth. For example, most distributions won't include Tkinter in the "standard" Python installation: Tkinter depends on _tkinter depends

Re: [Python-Dev] Small tweak to tokenize.py?

2006-12-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 12/2/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > >> it would be a good thing if it could, optionally, be made to report > >> horizontal whitespace as well. > > > > It's remarkably easy to get this out of the existing API > > sure, but it would be even easier if I d

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Armin Rigo a écrit : > Now I only have to hope that 2.4.4 makes its way out of 'unstable' soon. > As far as I can tell sysadmins installing the current 'testing' would > still be getting a Python 2.4.3, not modern enough to cope with the > arithmetic overflow issues introduced by the cutting-edge

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70, 000 years ago

2006-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Frank Lomax wrote: > The PSU does not, nor ever has existed. Any statement implying > otherwise is false and subversive. There is no PSU and even if there > is, it has no influence whatsoev it's a bit interesting that every time someone writes something along those lines, their computer's P

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Jan Claeys
Op vrijdag 01-12-2006 om 00:16 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Steve Holden: > Jan Claeys wrote: > [...] > > Probably the Debian maintainers could have named packages differently to > > make things less confusing for newbies (e.g. by having the 'pythonX.Y' > > packages being meta-packages that depend

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70, 000 years ago

2006-12-02 Thread Frank Lomax
On Dec 2, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Surely it is. The PSU once used the time machine to travel to Ancient > Greece and gave the Delphi priestess her name, along with a schoolbook > about ancient histo The PSU does not, nor ever has existed. Any statement implying otherwise is fal

Re: [Python-Dev] Python and the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

2006-12-02 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Andrew, On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 03:27:09PM +1100, Andrew Bennetts wrote: > In both the current Debian and Ubuntu releases, the "python2.4" binary package > includes distutils. Ah, good. This must be a relatively recent change. I'm not a Debian user, but merely a user that happens to have to

Re: [Python-Dev] Small tweak to tokenize.py?

2006-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Guido van Rossum wrote: >> it would be a good thing if it could, optionally, be made to report >> horizontal whitespace as well. > > It's remarkably easy to get this out of the existing API sure, but it would be even easier if I didn't have to write that code myself (last time I did that, I nee

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70, 000 years ago

2006-12-02 Thread Georg Brandl
Talin wrote: > Oleg Broytmann wrote: >> http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2006_4/Artikler/python_english >> >>(-: >> >> Oleg. > > I noticed the other day that the word "Pythonic" means "Prophetic", > according to Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, 1913 edition: > >Py*thon"ic (?),

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70, 000 years ago

2006-12-02 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:34:22AM -0800, Talin wrote: > I noticed the other day that the word "Pythonic" means "Prophetic", This is, of course, due to the Greek mythology and the oracle at Delphi! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28mythology%29 Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannh

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70, 000 years ago

2006-12-02 Thread Talin
Oleg Broytmann wrote: > http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2006_4/Artikler/python_english > >(-: > > Oleg. I noticed the other day that the word "Pythonic" means "Prophetic", according to Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, 1913 edition: Py*thon"ic (?), a. [L. pythonicus, Gr. . See