Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Brett C.
Guido van Rossum wrote: [SNIP - Guido already said throw() is the name to be used] > - Whether and how to keep a door open for a future extension to the > syntax that allows multiple resources to be acquired in a single > with-statement. Possible syntax could be > > (a)with EXPR1 [as VAR1], EX

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 6/10/05, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - throw() is a term taken from Java & C++. > > This was intended. There was much discussion about this for PEP 288 and > this was more or less a concensus choice. The term is already > associated with exceptions in other languages and

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > - Whether and how to keep a door open for a future extension to the > syntax that allows multiple resources to be acquired in a single > with-statement. Possible syntax could be > > (a)with EXPR1 [as VAR1], EX

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger
> - throw() is a term taken from Java & C++. This was intended. There was much discussion about this for PEP 288 and this was more or less a concensus choice. The term is already associated with exceptions in other languages and it captures the concept of the raise occurring somewhere else (what

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:23 PM 6/10/2005 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: >- throw() is a term taken from Java & C++. We can't call the method >raise() -- but perhaps we can call it next_raising() or next_raise(), >which emphasizes the similarity with next(). Thoughts? I'm not strong >on this; I think throw() is fine t

[Python-Dev] PEP 343 - next steps

2005-06-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
While there's still some activity in the Wiki, nothing (to me) sounds like signs of serious disagreement or truly better alternatives. So I think I'd like to move forward towards acceptance soon (before EuroPython). Two issues brought up in the Wiki are worth considering: - throw() is a term take

Re: [Python-Dev] b32encode and NUL bytes

2005-06-10 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:23:18PM -0700, Pavel Pergamenshchik wrote: > Hi. > Is this a feature? I do see b32encode padding the string with NULs first. > > >>> b32decode(b32encode('\x00')) > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in ? > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/base64.py", line

Re: [Python-Dev] Five patch reviews & patch request

2005-06-10 Thread Thomas Heller
"Michiel De Hoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to ask your attention to this patch: > > [ 1049855 ] PyOS_InputHook inconsistency on Windows > > Kurt Kaiser has already looked at this patch, but was hesitant to check it in > because he wasn't able to test it on Windows. I'd be happy to se

[Python-Dev] Five patch reviews & patch request

2005-06-10 Thread Michiel De Hoon
Recently, I reviewed the following five patches: [ 827386 ] absolute paths cause problems for MSVC [ 1161914 ] python-config [ 1187396 ] Add const specifier to PySpam_System prototype [ 1196895 ] in IDLE, assume new text files are python source by default [ 1196917 ] change recall in IDLE shell t

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug day on the 25th?

2005-06-10 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:35:47AM -0300, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > Not sure if that's a reason to prevent the event, since > fixing bugs is a good thing no matter when, but that's two > days before EuroPython, and many people might be moving to > the conference at that time. Thanks for pointing t

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on stdlib evolvement

2005-06-10 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
> > moving the main trunk and main development over to the Python CVS is > > another thing, entirely. > > (as I've said many times before, both the user community and the developer > community would benefit if the core standard library were made smaller, and > more externally maintained packages w

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug day on the 25th?

2005-06-10 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
Greetings, > It seems like a good idea to have another Python bug day. Saturday > June 25th seems the most practical date (this coming weekend is too > soon, and the weekend after is a minor holiday -- Father's Day). > We'd convene in the usual place: the #pydotorg IRC channel, on > irc.freenod

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Doc/lib libtokenize.tex, 1.5, 1.6

2005-06-10 Thread Skip Montanaro
Raymond> Add untokenize() function to allow full round-trip tokenization. Raymond> Should significantly enhance the utility of the module by Raymond> supporting the creation of tools that modify the token stream Raymond> and writeback the modified result. Raymond, Very interesti