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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
> Unless other people step forward to debate this we probably are not going to
> reach consensus without going to python-dev to see what others think.
I would really like to see:
1. a good definit
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wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM, anatoly techtonik
> wrote:
> ..
>> s/datetime/date\/time/ in the last sentence, as the complication comes from:
>> -- start offtopic --
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Please add issue8908 as superseder.
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> What is your use case?
>>> from datetime import now, today
>>> now()
datetime.time ...
>>> today()
datetime.date ...
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> Didn't you just recently complain about the large number of functions in
> datetime module?
About verbosity of datetime API to be exact, so it is a ratio of (API functions
+ required docs)/user code that makes required
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Seems like it still the issue for 2.4.4
http://scons.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2533
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9404#comment:2
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Projects that still support Python 2.4 are building distributions with either
2.4.x or 2.5.x versions, because they afraid that newer installers won't run on
Windows XP or Windows 2000.
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9404#comment:2
Unfortun
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There is some uncertainty that 2.6 package installers are dependent on
msvcr90.dll - http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9404#comment:7
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Python process is rigid, no surprises here. But this issue is nevertheless
useful to link packages that experience this problem. I'll bump it every time I
run into broken package. So far I use:
1. SCons
2.
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Installers generated with x64 version of Python 2.6.5 seems to have msvcr90.dll
dependency that may not be present on all platforms.
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Éric Araujo wrote:
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> Would the addition of a link to http://www.python.org/dev/patches/ address
> your request?
No. It is not quick. It short only for an experienced developer. The
example (or documentation HowT
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Atomic file renames are reimplemented by:
1. Mercurial
2. Trac
3. Dulwich (aka HgGit)
and essential for many other projects out there, so this should be in standard
library. Atomic renames depend on filesystem more that on the OS.
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Dulwich bug discussion (closed) -
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/dulwich/+bug/557585
Trac implementation -
http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/util/__init__.py?#L82
Stackoverflow -
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/167414/is-an-atomic-file
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It would be nice to see the transition accompanied by some tutorial that could
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implementation of the test() function." with no reference where this test()
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2.5 threw exception
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webbrowser.open("%s:%s" % (HOST,PORT))
File "C:\Python25\lib\webbrowser.py", line 61, in open
if browser.open(url, new, autoraise):
File "C:\Python25\lib\webbrowser.py", line 518, in open
os.startfile(url)
Wi
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wrote:
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> Even from pypy perspective, a pure python implementation is not ideal because
> it makes it difficult to implement the C API.
C API
must die
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The abundance of methods and hierarchy depth of various servers from "Internet
Protocols and Support" section makes it extremely hard to navigate information.
You need a strong OOP background to be able to use this doc effectively, as
exampl
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linux. Right now there are errors which I'll describe in more details once I
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At least is was reported that compiled binaries contains wrong platform name,
i.e. 'linux' and there are errors about inability to look up some compiler
options in windows registry while building.
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In this SCons thread
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Does it work with FAT32 or network filesystem?
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$ python setup.py build bdist_wininst
running build
running build_py
running bdist_wininst
installing to build/bdist.linux-i686/wininst
running install_lib
creating build/bdist.linux-i686/wininst
creating build/bdist.linux-i686/wininst/PURELIB
copying build
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It did run ok on non-Windows OSes with previous Python versions.
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Raymond mention your reasons please. I may need them one day for describing
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1. No time
2. Looks complicated
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Good job. Thanks for working on this.
It is possible to backport this to future of Python 2.7?
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I do not like the idea that BaseHTTPServer depends on email package, which in
turn may depend on another package etc. Having date formatting function inside
of email package breaks "single responsibility" principle that would be nice to
have
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I don't see why it modifies os.environ at all environ it passed as argument to
child subprocess.
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I can't edit my comment. That suxx. It should be
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> I suspect this bug will sit here languishing without action, for various
> reasons:
I suspect this kind of discussions piss off readers of tickets, but
I'll continue, as I do not see any other useful public medium at hand
right now.
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Thank you. The wording can surely be improved, but it is much better than
nothing.
I'd reword the first para further:
> The :func:`test` function in the :mod:`SimpleHTTPServer` module is an example
> of using :class:`SimpleHTTPRequestHa
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
>> Conflict resolution takes a lot of time
>> and I can't afford maintaining a separate copy of Python checkout for
>> every patch
>
> Then try various hg features such as named branches, or bookmarks, or mq, or
> pbranch, et
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> That's a lot of things which others do not perceive as important or even
> desireable. Chances are you are going to have to implement them yourself
> if you really want them. In any case, just complaining won't change
> anything
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
The example is really helpful. I was surprised to learn that SimpleHTTPServer
can be called from command line with port argument. I thought it is only for
testing. Another missed aspect is that it is possible to use
SimpleHTTPRequestHandler with TCPServer
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`copy` module covers very important aspect of Python programming. However its
documentation doesn't provide any intro or overview of this problem starting
right from details. When people meet `copy` construction in the code - the
refer to m
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Just stumbled upon this stuff. Good job. I can already see how it can be useful.
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User story:
I am covering CGIHTTPServer with tests according to
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in a cycle. I am
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3. The final goal is to be able to run single test as:
> python test_httpservers.py BaseHTTPServer::handler
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The example in first post should read:
> python test_httpservers.py --list *auth*
CGIHTTPServerTestCase::authorization
(several distractions a minute can drive anyone mad)
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in a cycle. I am
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Damn. I still failed to forge last use case. In should of course read:
> python test_httpservers.py CGIHTTPServer::url_collapse_path_split
CGIHTTPServer::url_collapse_path_split ... ok
Wave develops bad hab
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Too many errors in description. Please close this ticket with #9028 as a
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`someref` would be more convenient than :func:`someref` but in case of
namespace conflict (for example, as a result of documentation merge it both
:func:`someref` and :class:`someref` can appear) - it would be necessary to go
through all the links in both
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RDM, running your way will execute test from standard library location of
installed Python.
> python -m unittest test.test_httpservers.BaseHTTPServerTestCase.test_handler
But I want to execute test from my own patched copy of test_httpservers.py w
anatoly techtonik added the comment:
> If you use Python 2.7 then the following at the end of the test module
> enables the same command line features that David Murray pointed you to:
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> unittest.main()
Unfortunately, test_httpserver
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> The doc change suggested by Terry could be helpful in the tutorial
> where a copy module is mentioned.
Can you post a link to this tutorial here?
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About importance to have a maintainable pure libraries and speedups for them.
Believe it or not, but the only reason why Python 2.x did not get RFC 3339
implementation in standard library is that datetime module is in C. I hope
everybody understands the
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os.chdir(path) is often used with os.getcwd() call and doesn't return anything.
It can return the name of the directory before the change.
prev = os.chdir(path)
...
os.chdir(prev)
Maybe it will also be possible to implement 'with' c
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reference to json module from chapter "14. File Formats" would be a good
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Brian, in case you remove previous directory - you will get the same exception
that in the following code.
prev = os.chdir(somepath)
os.rmdir(prev)
os.chdir(prev)
Senthil, your arguments are strange. Both use cases are at least useful for me
(if not
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Pickle warning about insecurity is located only at the second page near the
bottom of "Relationship to other Python modules" chapter. For me the proper
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It seems that left side ToC menu will be more clear without numeric prefixes
from chapter on 3-.. nesting levels. How about to remove them?
For example - the ToC menu now starting from root level:
15.6. logging — Logging facility for Python
* 15.6.1
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Also http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html
http://docs.python.org/library/logging.html#sending-and-receiving-logging-events-across-a-network
and
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-June/101179.html
The link to Nadia blog is also very
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> R. David Murray added the comment:
>
> -1
Why? Do you like wrapped menu entries three lines long?
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That just proves that side menu is not very useful. When I need to jump to a
sibling paragraph I usually click the rightmost entry in top bar. It takes two
clicks to get there and one page reload instead of one.
Perhaps the ToC menu could be expanded
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PHP site have a very convenient feature that if you enter
http://php.net/some_func - it automatically executes function lookup for you or
shows corresponding doc page, i.e. http://php.net/sort
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Senthil, please read the proposals more attentively. From the docs of urlparse
at http://docs.python.org/library/urlparse.html
"The components are not broken up in smaller parts (for example, the network
location is a single string), and % escapes ar
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Even though I think that crossplatform language should normalize underlying
platform behaviour, you've convinced me. Unneeded extra code execution decides.
I also found that in another scenario it is better to return wrapper for target
directo
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Too bad that request from users who are not eligible to produce a patch are not
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Much better definition. I stripped it down a little to avoid
"mechanism" repetition.
Compared with other programming languages, Python provides
object oriented approach with a minimum of new syntax and semantics.
Its class mechanism is a
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when you try to call script that contains os.execve() on windows - that script
spawns background process and control is immediately returned to the calling
program. Does it
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There should be one uniform behavior on all platforms if Python is
crossplatoform.
As far as I can understand this issue - unix os.execv() requires "./" to be
present to execute anything from current directory. On windows it is enough to
sp
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Does that mean that windows doesn't allow process replacement at all?
I remember the time then game NoCD loaders were somehow able to load, patch and
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For me only http://www.python.org/doc/3.1.1/ gives 403.
Seems like all other links should be updated from
http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.2/ to http://docs.python.org/release/2.3.2/
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There are a couple of chapters about implementing a command in distutils docs
that should be linked together.
http://docs.python.org/distutils/extending.html#extending-distutils should link
to http://docs.python.org/distutils/apiref.html
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The regression is two-fold:
1. platform name regression is caused by r62197 by Mark Hammond - Issue #2513:
enable 64bit cross compilation on windows
2. when wininst stub selection started to depend on MSVC compiler version is
yet to be investigated, but
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Eric, think about people who will be porting old code from distutils. They need
to understand the behavior of distutils even if you'd like to force them to
rewrite the logic for distutils2 from sc
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reuploaded correct version to rietveld.
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Cool, unittest.main() worked for me, but I still lack the introspection to see
what tests are available inside the file. Would there be any objections against
quickly adding -l, --list option to expose the result of test discovery as it
works now?
What
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os.environ. This implicitly changes parents application state if it also relies
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Patch queue with other minor fixes you may consider useful
http://bitbucket.org/techtonik/http.server-patches/qseries
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
wrote:
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> I suggest the following wording for time.timezone description:
>
> time.timezone: The number of seconds one must add to the local time to arrive
> at UTC.
Makes sense. I can&
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> Documenting utcoffset() as "Return timedelta equal to local UTC
> offset." is almost circular. It does not explain whether it has to be
> added or subtracted from UTC to arrive at local time.
Ok. Sold.
>> I believe the corr
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The test is hard to write. The server is launched in a separate thread. Any
ideas how to check os.environ there?
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Seems like os.environ is shared between multiple threads. This should be
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CGIHTTPServer looks for CGI files in '/htbin' directory. This never was a
standard (in comparison to `cgi-bin`) and can be safely removed at least in Py3k
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It was actual only for old Mac versions without popen2/popen3 calls. popenX
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> I'm not sure where you'd put this. The defining characteristic of threads is
> that _all_ objects are shared among them.
Where is this defining characteristic of t
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