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>I'll put it into importlib.util.MAGIC.
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>How would you do dynamic switching of translation locale at runtime, then?
flufl.i18n :)
http://pythonhosted.org/flufl.i18n/
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>What is the theoretical problem here? I though that it's an explicit design
>goal of enums? Which RED - Color.RED, or MeatReadiness.RED? For sockets:
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>>>> class SocketType(IntEnu
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>To sum up: the name is already available in the name, no need to have it be
>the value as well. I am open to changing the start value to zero instead of
>one (which is what I do in my customization o
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>I created issue 18264 after I tried it and found my theoretical concern
>wasn't theoretical at all: swapping a true integer for the current
>incarnation of enum.IntEnum breaks (at least) JSON
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On Jun 19, 2013, at 01:45 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>Allowing __str__ to be inherited from Enum rather than from the concrete type
>will similarly break any serialisation protocol that relies on str() to
>handle integers. The float case is even tricki
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>There's at least one stdlib module that does this pretty well (sqlite3, I
>think). This is where a simple serialization (and deserialization of course)
>protocol would come in handy.
Yeah, my
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It applies cleanly, builds without noticeable problems and does what it's
advertised to do. In other words, looks great to me!
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>"python -I" and "spython" sound like two ways to get the same results. I
>would prefer to only have one way.
Where does spython come from?
Personally, I'd much rather
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>Working with an explicit translator object sounds much better to me too. I
>haven’t used it yet, but Babel has been on my radar for long, and does that
>(like flufl.i18n from what I can tell).
f
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>something entirely specific to serialisation? As in "return the most
>appropriate builtin type with the same
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.dedent() is a no-brainer. JFDI. +1
.indent() I guess makes sense for symmetry, although I've rarely used it. -0
As for docstrings, I can imagine other alternatives, so let's let someone
interested in that go through the P
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>So +1 from me for a -I isolated mode, and I'll adjust PEP 432 as necessary to
>cope.
PEP 394 is probably related to any such additional binary.
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>will be better rename old ImportError to ImportlibError (or ImportingError,
>or ImportMachineryError, or BaseImportError
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>I don't think it's a good idea to maintain a list of hard-coded
>paths in Python: it's not manageable, and it will always become
>outdated. If there was a widely-respected stand
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the default value is "hidden" and undocumented. As implemented, the value is
socket._GLOBAL_DEFAULT_TIMEOUT, but even this isn't really correct or useful.
The p
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>Please see issue 14425 and then let us know if this is still valid. It's
>been a while since I looked at the code and I no longer remember the details,
>but I seemed confident in my conclusi
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This is because hash() takes the value returned by obj.__hash__() and coerces
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In general, I like where this is going. I agree that a stdout redirector is
probably the most common case, and for that, it almost always (for me)
redirects to an open file. The use case for stderr redirection is usually,
but not always, to redirect stderr to
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He tried to do this:
>>> from collections import defaultdict
>>> '{foo}{bar}&#x
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Make that:
@contextlib.
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>Perhaps the "placeholder" argument should actually include the last
>whitespace, to allow people to omit the whitespace, or use a non-breaking
>space instead?
>
> >>>
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Comments on the diff.
> -Two good reasons to break a particular rule:
> +Some especially good reasons to ignore a particular guideline:
It's probably enough to just s/Two/Some/ - not sure the 'especially' emphasis
is really needed.
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>- I think we should recommend against tabs outright. They are getting more
>- and more misunderstood.
+1
>- Regarding line length, I think it is reasonable to mention that many
>- organ
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>Nick Coghlan added the comment:
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>"with statements are good", basically.
`with ExitStack() as stack` is even better :)
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>organizations are settling on 100 as a compromise. On newer laptops you
>can still fit two terminal windows (with a reason
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Hah, I just ran into this too. I was perplexed why my load_tests() function
wasn't being called and ended up pdb'ing unittest's discover, and found exactly
this problem. I'm not surprised lifeless beat me to it.
(My use case was to pig
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>commentary intermixed with the guidelines. I quite like the notion of
>stripping PEP 8 down to just the essent
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Applied the fix to 2.6 and null merged into 2.7. This didn't need a NEWS entry
because the regression hadn't been released yet. I'll remove 2.6 from the
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>I have taken care of Antoine's and Victor's reviews. The fix has landed in
>Python 2.7, 3.3 and 3.4. What about 2.6, 3.1 and 3.2? After all it's a
>security fix (although I don&#x
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>I'm thinking this may be overengineering, but I may as well post it and find
>out for sure. :-) Is it worth encapsulating MIME types? They're "really"
>pairs as far as m
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>I'm pretty sure we don't want that.
Agreed, although a "we're all consenting adults" argument could be made.
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>[Barry, how come your name in the tracker is linked to your website? me
>wants...]
Go to "Your Details" in the left sidebar and enter a "Homepage".
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>I've always wondered why the code did that. If Barry doesn't have a good
>reason for it, I'll refactor it at some point.
A long time ago, Tim (IIRC) expressed an opinion that using t
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Jeff McNeil (mcjeff)> I would think it might make more sense just to make the
change to the Transport object. Since there's an argument for a transport on
ServerProxy already, that seems more straightforward and keeps the network
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>Thanks for the report. How did you find this? According to the doc of
>LooseVersion, 'a' is not valid, so I would like a real example to accept this
>as a bug.
It works in Python
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>> But if 'a' is invalid, then LooseVersion should refuse to accept it in its
>> constructor, right?
>It’s complicated. The doc does not say much, the docstring however clearly
>
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I'm inclined to go with the as_simple_namespace patch. As you say, the pro are
that this is a much better fit for this use case, while the con is that this
does kind of sneak in a new type. Given that the type is not exposed in the
API, that do
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Looking great, you're almost there! I remviewed
issue14673_as_simple_namespace_2.diff and issue14673_full.diff. Reitveld makes
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>sorry, I should have been more clear. issue14673_full.diff is not simply a
>merging of the two previous patches, but rather their merger, plus
>SimpleNamespace, plus removing the "public" r
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>Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file25804/issue14673_full_4.diff
Hi Eric. I'm ready to do a final review and merge this in, but I just want to
be sure I'm looking at the right file. Is full_4.
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>I've applied this to 3.3. Because the preservation of spaces around the
>ascii parts is a visible behavior change that could cause working programs to
>break, I don't think I can back
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>- _PyNamespace_New should be a public API function. From Python code,
>- SimpleNamespace is public.
This is a separate discussion. I'm not opposed, but I don't think this s
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I'm resolving this as Fixed since I've just committed the code to 3.3, but I'm
also leaving its status open and assigning it to mvl for verification of the
Windows build. Martin, if you'd rather not do that, please unassign it from
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I completely agree. As easy (but obscure) as it is, it seems quite silly to
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>Did you review the long discussion under issue 2736? Specifically, please
>note the part about mxDateTime, ticks() and gmticks(). I am -0 on adding
>ticks() and gmticks() and as far as I ca
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>That's a valuable experience. How big of a deal was the lack of
>.ticks() and .gmticks()? How did you work around it?
It was *much* less of an issue than all the magic date format parsin
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>presumably PEP 421 can be marked as final now?
Done.
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shutil.copy and shutil.copy2 first copy a file content and afterwards
change permissions of a destination file. Unfortunately, the sequence isn't
atomical and may lead to disclosure of matter of any file that is being
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>Barry: I think we should documentationally deprecate the encoders module. I
>can't see any utility in a new program calling those functions explicitly,
>especially if the program ever wa
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>Note that I don't *like* that the current API is that calling set_charset
>does the body encode if and only if there are no existing headers, but that
>is the way it has always worked,
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>Ping. Barry? (It's not strictly necessary to have the docs for b2, but could
>you give me a rough estimate when you'll do this?)
Unfortunately, I lost a bunch of work with a disk crash,
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To assist with vendor builds, Matthias has requested added a --configdir option
to the python3-config script. This would return
sysconfig.get_config_var('LIBPL'). The value is embedded in the output for
--ldflags, but not in a convenient
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Very minor style nit. In general, it's not considered good style to use
mutable objects in default argument values. importlib's
_bootstrap.__import__() does just this for its globals, locals, and fromlist
arguments.
The implementation current
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Brett's feedback. The sys module has this to say about sys.path_importer_cache:
"A dictionary acting as a cache for finder objects. The keys are paths that
have been
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First draft is complete, along with updates to the importlib abcs for the new
protocols. You'll see the language reference has a new importmachinery.rst
file which describes finding and loading modules. You'll see that the import
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Thanks for the review Eric. I'm slogging through these and many other
comments, but I now have the docs integrated with trunk, and will probably
land them for better or worse in the next day or so.
I'll respond just to a few of your comments. Whate
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>I would title the new section "Import system" rather than "Import machinery"
>as it is meant to be a specification documentation rather than an
>implementation description.
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>runpy, pkgutil, et al should all get "See Also" links at the top pointing to
>the new import system section.
I've put an XXX in the import.rst file for this, but I probably won't g
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