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Exactly. It is the difference between black box testing and white box testing.
IMO mock, while a great tool, should be used with caution, because it tends to
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It is very surprising that evaling the repr doesn't work, since struct_time is
documented to have a named tuple interface, and evaling the repr for a
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See also issue issue 17409.
The code isn't setting it to RLIM_INFINITY explicitly, though, so this must
mean that OSX is reporting an infinite hard limit when the hard limit is not in
fact infinite. Seems like this is an OSX bug that we will have to
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For what it is worth, I haven't had a non-trivial merge conflict on Misc/NEWS
for quite some time now. It seems to me that they are much rarer than they
were with svn. (By 'trivial' I mean that the conflicts I see is that there's a
n
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Then, again, I pretty much only do Library fixes. Maybe 'Core and builtins'
fixes get messier because of the proximity of the date and version-specific
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Were you changing something in core/builtins? I'm wondering if just making
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beginning of that section would be enough to solve 99% of the pro
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"delimiter must be a 1 character string" would cover it.
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Parsing a csv file with no delimiter would seem to be meaningless, unless I'm
misunderstanding what 'delimeter' controls. So the error messages for
delimiter and quotechar are necessarily different.
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I think it is highly inadvisable to make changes like this without also adding
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I'm with Serhiy on this. So if separators are added, I would say they *must*
be optional. Presumably if they are added they should be locale dependent :)
All of which may well make it more complicated than it is worth.
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I do not find a space to be an acceptable separator, sorry.
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For the record, email is not a good argument for this, since email could not
use this data structure (its data structure is *not* a dict, but a list with
dict-like features grafted on).
I do think this would be useful, and the generic version (analogous to
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As I recall this was discussed at length and we decided that this was the
behavior we wanted. I could be wrong, of course; it was a long discussion.
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coercekeydict
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Indeed. Although there was apparently some call for it, it doesn't sound from
a quick google like defaultdict was deemed to require a PEP. Presumably the
informed audience should be wider than this issue, though.
I also note that defaultdict is implem
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That's a different bug, and is probably due to the fact that \x0b is considered
a line-ending character by the 'splitlines' method.
Could you please open a new issue for this? It could be that this can't be
fixed in Python3 until sup
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I agree with Antoine, but then as I said I don't run into huge merge conflicts
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As far as I know dir has always worked this way with classes (certainly back as
far as 2.4, which is the oldest python I have on my dev system). So I doubt
that this behavior can be open to change, whether or not we think the original
decision was correct
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That's not how people use it at the interactive prompt, though. I call
dir(str) to find what methods I can call on an str object, not what methods I
can call on the str class object. Same goes for my own classes. Yes, I also
call it on instances, b
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Formal parameter tuple unpacking was removed in Python3, so this is a
Python2-only issue. Would you like to submit a patch for Python2?
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For reference, here is the crash:
rdmurray@hey:~/python/p33>./python -m pdb script.py
> /home/rdmurray/python/p33/script.py(1)()
-> with open('test') as f:
(Pdb) j 3
python: Objects/frameobject.c:207: frame_setlineno: Assertion `blocksta
R. David Murray added the comment:
Someone needs to find time to review it.
You could try recruiting reviewers on python-list. Anyone can do a review.
Obviously the more knowledge they have in this area the better, but any good
review is likely to move the issue along.
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I see Alexander is going to take care of this. But to clarify what I suggested
for your information:
In an ideal world it would be a committer doing the patch review, followed by a
checkin. But in the real world there aren't enough of us with enough
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I think Victor's point was that you get the "can't initialize standard streams"
in addition to the KeyboardInterrupt (but I'm just guessing).
(See issue 14228 for examples of what normally happens on a startup
KeyboardInt
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No, Guido's boolean keyword dislike is not about things being unclear at the
call site. It's about boolean parameters instead of separate functions. That
is (I believe) he prefers lstat/stat to having stat take a boolean keyword,
keyword-only or
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The following code:
def foo(a, *, b=None):
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unittest.mock.create_autospec(foo)
fails with this traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "temp.py", line 6, in
unittest.mock.create_autospec(foo)
F
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mymock.side_effect = (AuthenticationError, None)
expecting the first call to raise an auth error and the second time it was
called to get a normal return.
Since
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Does fix for issue 1559549 (and the fact that importlib is in) allow for a
cleaner fix for this? I've been putting off dealing with this issue in the
expectation that it would.
To answer the question: the fixed API can go in 3.3. If we fix this in ea
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I'd like to take a look at this (I wasn't aware of it before). I'll try to do
that some time in the next 24 hours, and if I don't you shouldn't wait for me :)
Did you address Dan's concern about 'old' possibly n
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I ran into this while translating a test, but it turns out it is a long
standing problem. I presume it has not been an issue because in general in
Python2 email messages are read as text with universal newline support, and
thus the linesep characters get
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Is the error raising PEP 3151 compliant?
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Other of our functions that do caching have been fixed so that the cache does
not grow unbounded (usually by using lrucache, I think). IMO a cache that is
unbounded by default is a bug.
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If that is the case, then a doc footnote that a large repeat count will result
in a large cache seems appropriate. Some way to control the max size of the
cache would also be a reasonable enhancement request, at which point the cache
size issue could be
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I get this result on a debug build of default on linux:
>>> "{0:s}{1:s}".format("ABC", "\u0410\u0411\u0412")
python: Objects/unicodeobject.c:1223: _copy_characters: Assertion `ch <=
to_maxchar' failed.
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I am interested in shell stuff in general.
The unicode bug is issue 1170.
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Launch is far better than open for this, I think. If someone can come up with
an even better name, that would be good. But I would not like to use open for
this function, because it does not behave like other open functions.
The one exception I know of is
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> What makes you think there isn't one?
Poor eyesight? Sorry.
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Initially this issue was about implementing a startfile-equivalent on posix.
But if you have to add a gui option to startfile to not lanuch a GUI, and your
real goal is a consistent way to launch non-gui programs on posix, then I don't
see that th
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Éric: there are devices that still only allow telnet. Older cisco routers
(*many* of which are still in the field) are just one example I'm familiar
with. I don't currently have any tools that use telnetlib to talk to them, but
I've got a
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Thanks Peter.
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Thanks, Dionysios.
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I'm not a lawyer (duh), but my understanding is that *looking* at GPL code (as
opposed to proprietary code, where someone might sue you about it and not
looking is a good defense) is OK, you just can'
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Suppose you have an exception object acquired from somewhere. The exception is
no longer active on the stack. Now you want to format the exception like
format_exception would (to log it, perhaps). To do this you apparently need to
call
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Sounds OK to me, though I am worried others will think that kind of variable
signature (where the type of the first argument depends on the number of
arguments passed) is bad.
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I don't think so. We aren't promising unicode support in pydoc in 2.x, and it
is too late to add it.
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If you are satisfied with the time logic then yes, please apply it. I suspect
that the number of people using the code and not aware of the problem (or not
caring enough to do anything about it) exceeds the number aware of it who have
coded a workaround
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Hmm. Making it not raise an error while still producing useful output would be
acceptable as a bug fix if that's all it takes, I think.
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I think that what is going to happen is that both of these functions are going
to be deprecated in favor of functions that use datetimes.
That said, this might be a worthwhile as a bug fix. I'm adding Alexander as
nosy to see what he thinks. (mktime_
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A comment is a comment. *All* characters after the # are ignored, including
other #s.
Also, Python doesn't have multiline comments. (Well, you can use a triple
quoted string as a multiline comment, but it is still a string, and follows the
syntax
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Hmm. Some at least of the buildbots have failed to build after that patch:
./python ./Python/freeze_importlib.py \
./Lib/importlib/_bootstrap.py Python/importlib.h
make: ./python: Command not found
make: *** [Python/importlib.h] Error 127
program
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If shell is false, the pipe character is not special.
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Oops, I typed too fact, and didn't notice that you were talking about windows.
My point may still be valid, but I shouldn't be the one to close the issue
since I don't know for sure for windows.
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Oops, I typed too fast, and didn't notice that you were talking about windows.
My point may still be valid, but I shouldn't be the one to close the issue
since I don't know for sure for windows.
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Ah, I thought I remembered seeing something about '|' in windows before, and I
was right. It is only special to cmd.exe, which means it is only special when
shell=True. See issue 1300 for a discussion.
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Reopening per this python-dev thread where MvL said that not being able to
build 2.7 without unicode is a bug (but someone would need to care enough to
contribute a patch to fix it).
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Serhiy, the bug is about csv in particular. Can you confirm that using
utf-8-sig allows one to process a file with a bom using the csv module?
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I wasn't sure which script you were referring to, so I checked it myself and
got the same results as you: after the seek(0) on the file object opened with
utf-8-sig, csv read all the lines in the file, including reading the header
line correctly.
So,
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If that's really the only difference we might indeed be able to treat it as a
bug fix. I'd have to look at a proposed patch to be sure.
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Serhiy: FYI we use the versions field to indicate which versions the fix will
be made in, not which versions the bug occurs in. Since only 2.7, 3.2, and 3.3
get bug fixes, I've changed the versions field to be just those three. (3.1
and 2.6 are sti
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Victor proposed deprecating it as part of PEP 410 (see issue 13882), but the
PEP was rejected for other reasons.
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I've always wondered why the code did that. If Barry doesn't have a good
reason for it, I'll refactor it at some point.
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There is a test_tools file now. test_unparse could be called from it.
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Hynek: it doesn't seem like that would work, since legitimate EPERM errors are
much more likely.
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Good enough for me. I personally don't find it to be easier or harder to read
with the names, so let's keep them.
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Hynek: you said "just like EEXIST", which doesn't check to see if the directory
exists before continuing, thus my confusion.
If mkdir -p does a stat first, then changing the makedirs algorithm to match is
probably not a bad idea for OS compat
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As discussed in my email to python-dev, I'm planning to add the new header
parsing to Python 3.3 as a provisional extension, by adding a (set) of policies
that are clearly marked provisional in the documentation. In order for this to
work, I first
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Currently the email package uses its own custom quoted printable encode/decode
implementation for handling header quoted printable CTE encoding and decoding.
It could be that using binascii would work, and be more performant. Or it
might not be, but it
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Since we are already doing path hackery in that test file to get things to run,
I think your patch would be fine.
If we grow more tests for the stuff in Tools (which would be good), we might
want to consider reorganizing things, but for now I think that the
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Making idle work with ctl-Z+enter might be reasonable.
However, can you describe more fully the documentation that led you believe
that would work? ctl-Z+enter is for the CMD window, not IDLE, to my
understanding.
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Thanks for the report and patch suggestion, but...
This is actually the way it is designed to work. get_payload(i) returns the
ith element of a multipart payload. Your workaround is in fact the correct way
to do this operation. decode=True is documented
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Indeed, even though it is not a documented API, our backward compatibility
policy pretty much requires that something named ExFileObject still exist, just
in case. And in this case it probably should still be the thing returned.
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I don't think it is necessary to rewrite the existing tests, just add some that
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Berkeley DB is no longer part of Python3, so I'm doubtful that this is going to
be addressed. If it is addressed, it would have to be by the PSF rather than
the developers, since the PSF is responsible for licensing issues. If you wish
to pursue t
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The LICENSE.txt file is "just" the Python license, which has a rather
convoluted history. Newer contributions are all under an Apache-style license
from the individual contributors. My understanding (but I'm not a lawyer) is
that ev
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Yeah, I know it is technically private. We still tend to keep names around
unless there's a good reason to delete them (like using them leads to broken
code anyway). The code search is some evidence this deletion would be OK, but
why *not* follow Ama
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Well, that should be fixed anyway (a cleanup added that restores the original
value). Then a new TestCase can test the socket stuff.
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Code search is not proof, I'm afraid. It is evidence, though, and I thought I
indicated I thought it was a good argument in favor of dropping the class.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
An equivalent test using python 3.2's datetime.timezone works fine. Are you
sure it isn't a bug in pytz?
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Ah. datetime.timezone wouldn't have that issue since it doesn't deal with DST.
The 3.3 python version of datetime calls utcoffset in the same way as you
describe, and it is supposed to have the same behavior as the C version, so
probably 3.2/3
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Ah, I see.
No, the docs are correct, I'm the one who was mistaken. I thought the license
page was on www.python.org, rather than docs.python.org. Developers *do* have
full and easy access to docs.python.org, and we do track doc bugs here.
As wit
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Given the way Oracle is currently behaving, I personally think he is wise to
delete it. It's optional at build-time anyway.
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I don't think a doc change is needed. An isinstance check based on the docs
will succeed, and the rest is an implementation detail, I think.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
My, that's embarrassing. I somehow entirely missed the fact that we were
dealing with times and not dates here.
What you say makes sense to me, and the doc patch looks good.
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Thanks for the patch.
There are a couple of things I'd change, which I or someone could do while
committing if you prefer, but if you'd like to tune up the patch yourself that
would be great.
The first is that I'd break up the tests that ru
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Datetime doesn't support BC.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
It's issue 449227.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
It does not hang for me on Gentoo. When I run the test suite before a checkin,
I use -uall, and I've never had test_ttk hang for me. I did an 'hg pull; hg
up' before running the command line you give below.
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I'm finally getting back around to this.
If asyncore and asynchat are (mostly?) supporting an alternate socket map, why
is it necessary to copy create_socket? Shouldn't we be fixing create_socket in
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