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cygwin in not currently fully supported (there are people working on it,
though). Can you determine if this is a bug in cygwin's bash support, or
something else? It certainly works with bash shell on unix. I would presume
that from cygwin one would
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"round brackets" would require just as much thought (if not more...it's not a
thing at all in American typographical language) for an American to understand
as the unadorned bracket does for the rest of you, so the best compromise is
"pa
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Well, in that case having 'organizer' in the error message wouldn't help you
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You can get the same "bad" behavior on a posix system by having a mimetypes
file with an incorrect entry in it. That would be a system misconfiguration,
as is your Windows registry case, and is outside of Python's control. I
suppose w
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Why? What's the motivation for supporting this? There's no reason that I can
think of, so I'm curious what your use case is.
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Agreed. I don't think there is sufficient motivation for doing this, and there
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It looks like the docs job hung on the 2.7 backport, but I don't see how to
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Thanks, Mariatta. I did click on the details link, so either the restart link
isn't obvious or I don't have the correct permissions to do a restart :)
And thanks Emily for doing the PR.
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This has been proposed and rejected before, for example in issue 28135. If you
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This reduces to the following:
>>> from binascii import a2b_base64 as f
>>> f(b'MTIzND\nU2Nzg5\n')
b'123456789'
>>> f(b'MTIzND\n')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
b
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I think adding an __all__ in 3.7 would be reasonable. You are right that we
can't simply rename them for backward compatibility reasons. We could rename
them, and leave a stub function (that calls the renamed function) but issues a
deprecation wa
R. David Murray added the comment:
Just warnings, no docs. We've done this before for other helper functions, but
it is always a judgement call whether it is worth the churn. I defer to those
people who have actually done work on the module for the answer to that
que
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If you read the traceback the message is "correct" for some definition of
correct: the right hand side controls the type of the expression, so it is
objecting to trying to look for the string '%' in a bytes object.
There are probabl
R. David Murray added the comment:
This is a general property of dunder methods in python3, and I think we have
chosen not to change the wording when this has come up in other contexts. I'm
not sure, though.
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I'm not sure, but the discussion I remember was that it would require changes
to an awful lot of places in the docs that would make the docs harder to read.
It is very seldom in normal Python coding that an object has a method that it
does *not* get
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What happens if you print a placeholder line first, before your test output?
I'm not sure it will work, I seem to remember something about an ellipses
starting a line just not being supported, but it was a long time ago...
So, that doesn't work
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Ah, I see my answer crossed with your post :)
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We generally don't do type checking (see discussions of "duck typing"). We
generally do just let the implementation detail bubble up. I don't think the
encoding suggestion works, since we can't know what encoding the byte string i
R. David Murray added the comment:
I think Nick was the last one who touched the byte/string issues in urllib, so
I've nosied him. We'll see what he thinks (but this tracker accepts
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Yes, I would say it is.
Note that this isn't going to get "fixed" in 2.7, because 2.7 doesn't get new
features, and the proposed change to the CLI is a new feature. As noted in
that issue discussion we aren't going to change the
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In particular, if we don't already have an example of using the threading mixin
we should, so a doc RFE to add that would be nice.
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Well, it does support a persistent connection, but that connection lasts until
it is shut down from the other side. Documentation improvement suggestions are
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It's importing 'a' from '.', which I guess in this context means from the
current namespace (__main__), and a is 7. You'll note that 'b' did get
repointed, but it got repointed to what 'a' points to, in
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It's the same answer. __init__ *is* the package namespace, so you are setting
the value of 'func' in the package (.) namespace, and what import is doing is
correct.
I know this is confusing. I banged my head against it while debugging
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Yes, you are substantially correct. A subtlety that may enhance your
understanding (if it doesn't instead totally confuse you :) is that __init__ is
simply the most straightforward way to affect the module namespace. You would
see the same phenomen
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As I understand it, we don't control or know what that list is, it depends on
each distribution's policies.
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I'm fairly certain (though not 100%, obviously :) that coercing first and then
sorting would be accepted if someone wants to create a PR for this.
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json keys *are* strings, so the fact that we support other object types as keys
and coerce them to strings is an "extra feature" of python, and is actually a
somewhat questionable feature. The reproducible use case is solved by the fact
that dic
R. David Murray added the comment:
I think Ronald is correct.
The priority argument for enter would apply if you called enter twice with two
different delays, but they happen to end up pointing to the same moment in time
from the scheduler's point of view.
How would the computer know
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smtplib doesn't define any behavior for messages. I presume you are talking
about the email library?
Vis the print behavior, dict-style lookup is defined to return the first
matching header. If you want to see all of them, you can use get_all.
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I wrote up a response before Mark closed the issue, so despite his excellent no
discussion suggestion I'm going to post it for the edification of anyone
reading the issue later rather than waste the work :)
Nathan: this is *long* established behavi
R. David Murray added the comment:
That is not kwargs, that's a passing a dict. Which is what you would want,
since the strings you want to replace might not be valid identifiers, and so
couldn't be passed as keyword arguments.
I think I'm -0.5 on this. I don't think
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If a sequence as a value means repeated instances of a key with each value from
the list, then logically an empty list means no instances of the key, as
documented. Blank values aren't really part of the standard (such as it is):
the absence
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Vladimir, please open a new issue for this feature request. This issue is
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It would be odd to do that, since blank values are kept by default.
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I seem to recall that this ValueError behavior was discussed at some length and
it is the desired behavior. (At some previous point I think everything after
the NUL was ignored.) I'm not really sure why it needs to be documented
either, NULs are in
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That's presumably due to the compile-time constant-expression optimization.
Have you tried bytes(0x100)? I don't think that gets treated as a constant
by the optimizer (but I could be wrong since a bunch of things ahve been added
to
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This is a duplicate of 2571 and 10396. As I commented in 10396, if you want to
work on an enhancement request (for cmd) that improves the situation, it will
be welcome; but as you observed what to do isn't immediately obvious, so
discussion b
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I always assumed that any string composed of valid base64 characters could be
decoded to *something* if you added some padding characters, but apparently
that was an invalid assumption. I agree that the message is incorrect for this
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R. David Murray added the comment:
I agree, but that would be a separate enhancement PR. The email library would
use that capability if it existed...currently it adds padding in a loop trying
to do the decode if it gets the invalid padding message. Which of course is
going to fail for
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Agreed that this should be documented.
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The email module uses it, so I would object to its being removed. It may not
be used often (probably only when working with old email archives), but there's
no good reason I can see to break something that currently works.
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I like it, myself, though there is some danger in promoting the idea that this
is a "safe" operation. It theoretically should be, but it increases the attack
surface slightly if you actually use it (that is, using shell=False is always
safer, b
R. David Murray added the comment:
telnetlib provides a low level interface to the telnet protocol. The dialog
you mention appears to be transmitted on the telnet connection, so it is
unlikely there is any bug or missing feature in telnetlib that would affect
your problem.
The sentence in
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To clarify: don't call open again *on that telnetlib.Telnet object*. You can
certainly have more than one open connection using different telnetlib.Telnet
instances, though it might be a bit challenging to manage
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I think that would move it even more into the realm of a bugfix, then, since
code that cared about specific binascii exceptions could be looking for that
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Duplicate of #29750. TLDR: smtplib needs to be fixed to handle binary
passwords, and probably to use utf-8 as the default encoding for unicode
passwords.
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Note: it is definitely the case, regardless of what the RFC says, that binary
passwords need to be supported. utf-8 should probably be used as the default
encoding for string passwords, rather than ascii. See also #33741
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(#7631)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-30820: Remove incorrect docs for email.contentmanager.raw_data_manager
(GH-7631) (#7634)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Thanks, Zachery.
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Message/EmailMessage are intentionally mimicing the full dictionary API, not
just the Mapping API (with a couple exceptions and several extensions). But it
is important to mention that it is ordered, both for the reason INADA stgtes,
and because the text
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It doesn't look like this has anything to do with Python. This sounds like a
question more appropriate for an Excel help forum.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
We don't generally do type checks like that. This is a specific case of a
general issue with binary operators and mismatched string/bytes types. I
thought there was an open issue for it, but I haven't found it yet.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
While you are correct that latin1 may be common in this situation, I think it
may still be better to have utf-8 be the default, since that is the (still
emerging? :) standard. However, you are correct to call for examples: if in
the *majority* of the real
R. David Murray added the comment:
For the web cases I presume you also set the password using the web interface,
so that doesn't really tell us anything useful. Did you use thunderbird to
access the mailbox that you set up via gmail and/or sogo? That would make what
thunderbird doe
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R. David Murray added the comment:
I thought there was a more general issue for the 'in' operator itself, but
perhaps the issue you found was indeed the one I was thinking of. This one
certainly seems to be a duplicate of that one ;) If you've a mind to, you
could turn th
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We must continue to support at least ascii strings, for backward compatibility
reasons. We can certainly improve the error messages, but the goal of this
issue is to add support for bytes passwords. I lean toward continuing to only
support ascii strings
R. David Murray added the comment:
Sorry, but these paths are not equal in in any sense that Python by itself can
determine. Support for doing this kind of comparison would have to come from
MingGW or cygwin, and even if a python library exposed those capabilities, it
would be via some new
R. David Murray added the comment:
Thanks for coming back to this.
We're accepting PRs via github now, so the next step now would be to make it
into a PR.
Sometimes things just get forgotten and you have to nudge them to get them
moving (see the devguide for guidelines about when
R. David Murray added the comment:
zsh lets you edit multiline shell commands as a unit. If you up-arrow, you get
all the lines of the block popped up, with the cursor on the last line.
Further arrow keys will navigate within the multiline text block, with an
up-arrow from the first line
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I didn't think to look at the standards for the auth mechanisms, I only looked
at the smtp standards. So, if the standard says utf-8, then we should use
that. But we should still support bytes passwords so that an application could
work around i
R. David Murray added the comment:
Right, my opinion is that we shouldn't be putting markup in docstrings. They
are (from our point of view) pure text.
I don't know if discussion on python-dev is warranted, it seems like a fairly
uncontroversial change, since it brings the doc
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By the way, in case anyone is curious, I'm pretty sure that markup is left over
from the days when tex/latex was what docs were *written* in.
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No, it is (somewhat) unique to tex. If you write `word' tex would turn that
into a pair of opposing quotes in the typeset document, as opposed to 'word'
(the convention in regular text/emails/posts/etc) where you'd just see ascii
quote
R. David Murray added the comment:
I would still like to see the legacy tex markup removed from the docstrings, so
I think closing this issue is not appropriate, but it's not a big enough deal
that I'll push for it if Raymond wants to keep
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I understand your concern, but this is working as designed and documented.
Using st_ino would mean you would return true if and only if it was the *same*
file. That is not the intent. See issue 27396 for some background discussion.
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For your problem, just don't use the default shallow setting :)
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I think it might be OK to document what goes in to the signature, but probably
in a footnote, as it is somewhat of an implementation detail and could
conceivably change. We could then also add a caution about mtime imprecision
being a particular risk on
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I think we should get one or more of the core devs who were involved in the
changes that added that parameter to sign off on whether this is a good idea or
not (I have no opinion at the moment). You should be able to find them via git
blame and looking at
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IIUC that error message came from pypy, not CPython. If you have a reproducer
for CPython, you can open a new issue with a request to fix the error message.
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This is still a duplicate issue, though, you are just arguing for a different
resolution of the other one :)
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That patch would cause references to the same file on a google drive to report
that the files were different.
I'd say this is a bug in Google Drive's posix emulation.
I'm not sure there's a good answer here, because even if every other
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OK. Finding a solution for this (other than never raising samefile on such
systems and documenting it as a limitation) may be difficult.
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The default maximum line length is indeed supposed to be 78 (characters..and I
can't now remember whether I implemented it in terms of characters or octets),
that's per RFC 5322. What is wrong is that content encoded text is supposed to
use
R. David Murray added the comment:
This appears to be a bug in pip or the ansible-lint package, similar, and
possibly identical, to issue 31361. I believe None is being passed in as the
argument to feed_parser.feed, which is an invalid use of that API and so
correctly results in an error
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It looks like the virus checkers are not doing robust decoding that the email
RFCs recommend, and that thunderbird is. This is obviously a bug in the virus
scanners. By default, like thunderbird, the email library does its best to
decode attachments. If
R. David Murray added the comment:
Would you care to propose a patch? That's likely the only way this is going to
get fixed, unfortunately, as currently we have no one on the core team
interested in imaplib. Which means it is also going to be hard to come up with
someone to do the r
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Maybe we'll be luck and Maciej will still be interested :)
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R. David Murray added the comment:
That does appear to be a bug. Note that the new email API handles it correctly:
>>> x = """
... > From: =?utf-8?Q?z...@redacted.com.cn=E3=82=86=E2=86=91=E3=82=86?=
... =?utf-8?Q?=E3=82=83=E3=82=85=E3=81=87=E3=8
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Oops, I left out a step in that cut and paste. For completeness:
>>> x = x[3:]
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Ah, maybe it doesn't handle it completely correctly; that decode looks
different now that I look at it in detail.
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