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Sometimes it does, sometimes we make the change in a feature release, often
after a deprecation period. But in this case there is doubt that the behavior
is incorrect in the first place.
This discussion should move to the python-ideas mailing list. I&#
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Indeed, I personally can't imagine a circumstance in which I'd want to use this
feature. Even inside an org. It also has security implications, which would
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Have you tried the equivalent C program? I'm guessing this is happening at the
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I would phrase that as "check if any of the components of the path are links",
at which point one "obvious"[*] answer is "any(x.is_symlink() for x in
[*mypath.parents, mypath])". If the path is absolute, you could use &qu
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Thanks for wanting to improve the documentation.
Raymond will address this definitively, but unless I'm mistaken part of the
purpose of the examples is to show how the various itertools can be used. If
that is true, then in the context of the ov
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I'm not a networking expert at this level, but I believe what is happening here
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response that is longer than your socket timeout. So at some point its arp
timeout expires whil
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shadowadler, the documentation assumes *throughout* that you have not created
any variable that shadows any standard Python entities. There is no other
rational way to write the documentation. To change that policy would, as has
been pointed out, require
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obviously be absurd"). Having thought it it some more, your are right, there
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and your ex
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OK, agreed. The general principle is: if you reference the name, it is looked
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This is a duplicate of issue 8087, which contains quite a bit of discussion of
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Duplicate of issue 29708.
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If that is the intended definition of "whitespace" in this context (I have no
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"whitespace" includes newlines. On the other hand, this might be considered a
bug
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I don't think this use case is enough to justify documenting it, since this is
not an intuitive meaning of the word PARSER. I think if we wanted to expose
this for this kind of use case, we'd want to rename the constant (with an alias
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I've turned this into a PR. The example was already changed in a previous
checkin. I reworded the optparse porting addition to match the existing style
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I've turned intermixed.patch into a PR. I tweaked the documentation so that it
does not refer to the details of the implementation. I tweaked the
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and did the l
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I got an offline agreement from Zach Ware, and nobody here at the sprint has
objected (though I don't know if anyone else looked), so I'll go ahead and
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I started rewriting the header folder in response to this bug, because the root
problem is a bit deeper than just _fold_as_ew being missing. I will probably
work on it some more this week, but if I don't think I'm going to get it
finished I&
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You did not follow the request I made on the PR to explain in this issue you
opened what is failing and why. Unless you convince us that this is actually a
bug in python, we will close the issue and PR
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I think RegexFlag is an implementation detail, but it is true that it isn't
prefixed with a _ so putting it in __all__ is not obviously wrong. However, if
we do that we should also document it (currently it is mentioned only in a
versionchanged line,
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Well, I consider that they really should be named constants and not an enum,
which is why I consider it an implementation detail :)
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bpo-14191 Add parse_intermixed_args. (#3319)
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Can you figure out what the input to feedparser is in those cases? If pip or
whatever is feeding in a None object, then that's not a bug in feedparser.
However, if the input is a string (or bytes via the bytes interface) and this
is heppening, then th
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Presumably the book didn't tell you everything you need to know to make this
work, or you missed something in the instructions, since this certainly does
work if the module is in a directory on sys.path. (The 'python module1.py'
will o
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In python3, u"a" and "a" are the same thing. The equivalent in python3 would
bee b"a" vs "a", but I have no idea if we even support bytes keys in python3
gdbm.
In 2.7 does has_key(u"x") work if x
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Could you please post the examples instead of a zip file? Zip files are hard
to read on a mobile browser :)
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Users on linux can and do screw this up too. I believe we also had a case
where a distro screwed up the defaults for, I think, the reverse resolve? Not
sure which test that was, and the test may since been fixed to not depend on
that. The point is this
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This is indeed not a bug, it it a consequence of the scoping rules.
What surprises me is that it works without passing in an explicit scope in in
3.7. I'm not sure what we changed that makes that
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I managed to finish the rewrite, and it does fix this issue. I'll probably
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Thanks for the PR, but I've managd to finish my rewrite of the folder so that
it not only doesn't traceback on this, but correctly folds it. I'll probably
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Thanks for wanting to improve Python, but we don't usually accept refactoring
requests like this. We "fix" such issues when the code is touched for other
reasons. We'll see what other developers think, though.
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Anyone who uses stdlib code as examples of best practice doesn't understand the
history of stdlib code.
Generally, we consider the danger of introducing bugs to be more significant
than the benefit of the "cleanup" changes. The fact that you
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this work, but I haven't looked at the details of how those work.
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Mark: Yeah, I think my comment was directed more to haypo than you :)
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Hmm. I must have made a mistake when I ran (jpc's) test on 3.7. It is failing
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dummy_threading should definitely not have been removed, and like all the other
APIs should not be removed until 2.7 is dead. Deprecating it is of course fine
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*functionality* in _dummy_threading, so you probably need to restore that, too.
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https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/floatingpoint.html
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Have you followed the instructions on this page?:
https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/
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Here is a not-much-more-complicated version that solves the problem. It is
probably worth changing as the revised example makes clear the difference
between self and obj, which is an important distinction.
class RevealAccess(object
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10 million mime parts? That sounds like the kind of thing rfc 1870 was
designed to address in a more general fashion (ie: the SMTP server should be
enforcing maximum message size if you are worried about DOS attacks).
1 million = 3 seconds, 10 million
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Where do you find that it is not documented that you would expect it to be?
Because 'import' 'as' is certainly documented.
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It is a new feature, so no it would not be backported.
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It sounds like docker is just broken (I would expect unix tools to work in a
docker container). That however is beside the point.
I believe this is a duplicate of issue 10496, but I don't know why it hasn't
been fixed.
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Unless I'm mistaken, this has come up again in issue 31469.
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I agree that it would seem reasonable to add this to section 6.1 of the
tutorial, since it mentions both import statement variants and the modules
"global symbol table", which are the two concepts involved in import as.
Would you like to pr
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Note that as far as I know without a reproducer, it is confusing to me to talk
about argparse supporting or not supporting utf8. It deals only with text
strings, which are unicode. Or is this a 2.7 only bug report? (Although even
there it would be a
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Dmitriy: you will note from the discussion on this issue that your "simple
patch" was not considered sufficient. There were additional concerns voiced
about haypo's patch, which is why I guess it didn't get applied. However, can
you rev
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I think there is nothing to do here unless Mark likes my suggestion and/or
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You have to remember that the most useful way to think about python slice
indexes is that they point between characters. Consider, for example, that you
have a starting index of something, and you are looking backward in the string
for a trailing delimiter
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Mark: re your training course...if you aren't trying to stay compatible with
python2, note that python3 has a much more sophisticated address parser now,
that gets called automatically if you use the new policies.
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Generally we're just reporting whatever the platform strftime does. Is that
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Unless I'm mistaken (and someone will correct me and reopen the issue if I am
:) it is intentionally undocumented. A proposal for a documented protocol of
some sort is certainly a possibility, but is something that should start with a
discussion o
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I'm not Raymond, but he is correct. This is an example of "taking advantage of
the corner cases", and is something Python does a lot of, especially around
strings and slices. The current behavior was carefully considered and has
us
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Well, the first question that needs to be answered is: if you call the C
strftime with the same arguments, what result do you get? Because if it is the
C strftime doing this, then it is not a bug in Python, whether it is correct
behavior or not
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You are being tripped up by operator precedence:
>>> -1**2
-1
>>> (-1)**2
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It's a FAQ, but it was faster for me to just cut and paste than it was to look
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Yes, I think we can "fix" some things. I don't know if this falls into the
class of things we should fix. I'll leave that decision to people with more
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It looks like it is saving it (the set_from line). Do you have a test that
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It just needs to call set_unixfrom as well as set_from. I don't know why the
MMDFMessage tracks it separately, but I'm sure the author had a reason that
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We do not currently officially support cygwin. There are people working on
getting it working again (and having a buildbot) so we can support it, so
cygwin support is a goal, but not currently a requirement. I've nosied Erik
Brey, who is one of the
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I can't reproduce this on a linux VM with 3.7 tip. I don't currently have a
windows instance to test against.
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Without looking at doctest.py, yes. I believe the doctests in that file should
be already plugged in to the unittest framework, so adding new testcase
containing a non-doctest unit test should work fine
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Reported again in issue #35342.
The existing PR is close to complete, but needs adjusted for the fact that we
want (and want to document) that the utility raises errors (ie: catch the error
in the header parser rather than having the utility return None
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We have generally made an exception to the "new feature" rule for mimetypes.
That is, we don't really consider a mimetype addition to be a new feature in
the sense that our backward compatibility rules mean. It is true that an
applicatio
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The problem comes from thinking you can parse an arbitrary email message if it
is in unicode form. *YOU CANNOT DO THAT* in the general case (ie: non-ascii
attachments).
That said, the new email package API is designed to facilitate "off label"
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We don't generally add a mime type until it is a de-jure or de-facto standard.
If it is still in testing it is probably too soon to add it. For testing, you
can always add it yourself in your code via the api that mimetypes pro
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Here's a patch that makes the example work correctly. This is not a fix, a
real fix will be more complicated. This just demonstrates the kind of thing
that needs fixing and where.
The existing parser produces a sub-optimal parse tree as its result.
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The new email API is no longer provisional. It isn't the *default* yet, but it
isn't provisional. So yes, this is resolved.
Cheryl, if you see places in the current docs that still say provisional,
please open an issue to re
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