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Sorry, the information about this feature is currently only documented in the
OS X installer ReadMe. As you noted, it's displayed to the user during
installation when using the OS X installer app. A copy of the ReadMe is also
installed for later reference i
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sashk, thanks for the patches! The general approach LGTM as well.
Unfortunately, we need the fix to work with gcc-4.2 since the Python 2.7
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__has_include preprocessor construct is not
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os.environ is documented as being a "mapping" object. The "get" method is a
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there is no need to specially call out "get" or any of the other "ma
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value corresponding to key
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That is a fairly big change to go in now but the error message regression is
also big. With a review from a core developer and assuming no other
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Raymond, Larry's comment was about 3.5, not 3.6. See my comment above.
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Until we have a consensus on this change and a final, reviewed patch, it is
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I agree with Ethan that the PEP needs to be accepted first and afterwards,
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Any solution using pkg-config would need to take into account that pkg-config
may not be available (by default) on platforms we support; for example, AFAIK,
Apple does not ship pkg-config in the base OS or any of its developer tools.
And the solution would need
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Even better:
Python 3.6.0b1 (v3.6.0b1:5b0ca4ed5e2f, Sep 12 2016, 09:24:46)
[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from xml.
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I was hoping that the open issues could be resolved in time for b2 but that
seems unlikely at this point. So I have to agree that this feature should be
deferred to 3.7. Steven, can you make the necessary reverts on the 3.6 branch
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Thanks for the suggestion; I didn't even know that was still around. Because
it is a bit late in the game for 3.6 and to be extra cautious, I decided to
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It's a bit late in the 3.6 cycle to be removing macpath, but it's not too late
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write two patches, one for 3.6 to add a deprecation warning to the code and to
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This is likely a duplicate of issues like #27126 and #13829. In #24273 there
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http://bugs.python.org/issue24273#msg243963
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There are various reports about Xcode 8.0 providing a 10.12 SDK which will
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$ xcode-select --install
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Thanks, Steven. Actually, we needed to remove geometric_mean from the 3.6
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removal patch to 3.6. Feel free to reapply geometric_mean to the default
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you are running. That ensures that not only are the necessary build tools
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Parvesh, we only maintain the latest micro release of a release cycle; for 2.7,
that is currently 2.7.12. In other words, once 2.7.9 was released, 2.7.8 was
no longer supported by us (although, of course, downstream distributors of
Cpython can choose to backport
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Since this is also reproducible on some 3.5.2 platforms, I don't think it
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The EYE code point was added in Unicode 7.0 which was first supported in Python
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(From https://github.com/curl/curl/issues/1057, the curl project has also seen
this and opened an issue with Apple against macOS 10.12, RADAR 28372390.)
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This also affects the -m ensurepip installation of pip itself: the pip install
fails trying to upgrade the Apple-supplied version of setuptools. The behavior
of adding the system Python's site-packages directory to the search path of all
framework-build Py
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5 and OS X."
The changes introduced in 3.6 prevent compilation with gcc4.0 which was the
default Apple-supplied compiler on Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). 3.6 currently
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How do others feel about Serhiy's proposal for eventually changing the
semantics of groupdict() to mean only return matched groups? If that seems
reasonable, then there is the separate question of how to make the transition.
Adding a somewhat unpredic
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Lapsang, sorry but this bug tracker is not a help forum. There are many other,
more appropriate places to ask for help in building software, like Stack
Overflow or the Python mailing list. But, if you are not comfortable patching
and building software from
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Fatal Python error: Python memory allocator called without holding the GIL
Current thread 0x7fffb043b3c0 (most recent call first):
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0 pytest_10.120x00010256b794 PyObject_Call + 404
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Yes, we shouldn't be depending on pkg-config being available. I am not at all
keen on adding a dependency on a third-party library supplied by another
distributor. What I would like to see is: (1) add libffi to the third-party
libs built and used for the
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"*** WARNING: renaming "_sqlite3" since importing it failed:
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symbol: sqlite3_stmt_readonly"
That's a different issue: most likely you are building with an o
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That's why we suggest to not include configure changes in a patch, only
configure.ac changes. It's the responsibility of the patch committer to ensure
that generated files like configure are updated properly at commit time. But,
yes, it would be better t
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Interesting! Up until the Python 3.4.2 and 2.7.9 releases, the python.org
installers for Mac operating systems were produced as old-style "bundle"
installer packages and were shipped in a .dmg container. The bundle format had
long been deprecated, sup
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Christoph, building on a newer OS X release for an older OS X release is tricky
and out-of-scope for this closed issue. (But, it likely has the same root
cause. The simplest solution is to build on the lowest-supported release, e.g.
10.9. You may also have
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Python 3.2.3. 3.2.3 is very old and no longer supported. Also, Windows 7 is
very old. The last binary release of Python 3.2.x was 3.2.5 so you could try
installing that version. Or
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code or some such. If someone is interested in supplying a patch, I'm willing
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You need more assistance than we can give here on the issue tracker. Please
look at the help resources here: https://www.python.org/about/help/. In
particular, you could try asking on the tutor mailing list:
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ERROR: test_tk_busy (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_misc.MiscTest
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