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Can you say on which Linux platform/release you see this behavior and with
which Python 3.6.3, i.e. from the platform distributor or built yourself? If I
understand your concern correctly, I cannot reproduce that behavior on a
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The statement is true for macOS (note macOS is the correct current styling per
Apple); in general, macOS is a UNIX platform as far as Python is concerned.
So, yes, it appears the documentation there could be simplified by eliminating
the platform distinction
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Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I think you are right that the
behavior does not match the documentation but which is to be preferred does not
necessarily have an easy answer. Also, this whole area has been undergoing
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@mgedmin, Just to be certain, are you able to verify that the change in PR 7701
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> Would this affect any of the installation adjustments?
I don't think so but there's one way to be sure :) If you merge your changes
to master, we can doublecheck before backporting them.
> Is the windowing type determined by the hardware,
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FTR, the problem change was merged/backported after 3.7.0rc1 and 3.6.6rc1 so
doko must have been working from a development branch and not a release tag.
The original and its fix will first be officially released in 3.7.1 and 3.6.7
so there's really no nee
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Alas, it's not a bug. That was a deliberate change (see
https://bugs.python.org/issue29695 for the discussion leading up to the change)
and is documented in the "What's New in 3.7" document here:
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I don't see this build failure. Can you say where you find libutil.h installed
on macOS and what version of macOS this is? It doesn't seem to be part of the
standard Apple-supplied /usr/include header files installed by xcode-select
--install for m
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saying yet that we
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long time. It appears
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I think I am able to reproduce that behavior (I'm using IDLE from a python.org
10.9+ installer). What I'm seeing is that if you scroll to the bottom of a
file that exceeds the length of the open text window and then click on and try
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Ronald, do you think this should be backported?
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The crash can also be reproduced with a Spanish keyboard selected and using the
Tcl/Tk wish shell edit text demo. So it's definitely not a Python (tkinter or
IDLE) issue. I see that Kevin Walzer, the primary maintainer for Tk on macOS,
is CC here. If a
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While, as Ronald notes, it would be nice to fully support weak linking so that
building Python on macOS 10.n with a deployment target for 10.m where m < n so
that an application with an embedded or bundled Python can run on 10.m through
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Since you are using pipenv and it is not part of the Python standard library,
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> https://bugs.python.org/issue31359 has a better details about this issue.
Yea, the approach there is again dealing with using a newer SDK to build for an
older system.
> I personally believe it's safer to link against a newer SDK and deal with the
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I can't reproduce this either using a current top of 3.7 branch and installed
on macOS; I also tried building 3.7 just prior to the fix for Issue21446 that
Brett mentioned; the test also did not fail. Let's close this until it can be
reproduced
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While I think arguments could be made either way, this seems to me to be
somewhat more of a bugfix (rather than a feature) in the sense that mock_open
did not correctly emulate a real textfile open at least for an idiom that is
commonly used (while acknowledging
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the other was the fact that people writing tests to make use of the new
behavior can't depend on that behavior being there for 3.7 or 3.6 without
checking the patch level, for ex
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We discussed this last week at the sprint. Christian, it would be great if you
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>> Ned, do we auto run docs build for Python 3.7? Or do we only build them on
>> release?
The online html docs at https://docs.python.org/, like
https://docs.python.org/3.7/, are rebuilt every 3 hours from the current branch
heads for feature and
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Prior to this, there were no plans to have a 3.7.1rc2. We have three options:
1. do a 3.7.1rc2 with this and possibly a few other cherry-picked changes
2. just cherry-pick this fix into 3.7.1 final
3. wait for 3.7.2 (in one to three months)
What's
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If I understand correctly, this is not a release blocker issue. The most
up-to-date documentation for which Tcl/Tk to use on macOS has been and remains:
https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/
The entire https://docs.python.org/3/using/mac.html section
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Interesting! I was not familiar with that system preference nor that it would
just (sort of) work in IDLE; I'm presuming that there is nothing in IDLE that
knows about this. I'm not sure whether Tk gets that behavior for free (because
of the
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Ethan, do you an ETA of a fix for this? 3.7.1 final is scheduled for fewer than
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