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is a Spyder forum here:
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Thanks for the elaboration. Your report wasn't confusing. The fact remains
that we don't test or claim to support Python running under Docker on macOS.
If someone wants to investigate further (and re-open this issue), they are
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Thanks for the reminder. Yes, the whole "Using Python on a Macintosh" section
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PEP 8 also says: "In particular: do not break backwards compatibility just to
comply with this PEP!" This is one of those cases. There is a ton of code out
there that depends on importing tkinter this way for the reasons Serhiy cited.
Thanks for the
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This had me confused for a while. But eric.smith's comment is the clue to
what's going on here:
> This is the expected behavior, fortunately or not. "math" is not builtin in
> the sense that is used in that paragraph.
The differenc
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The example you gave caused problems because of the use of the ambiguous
unqualified name "math". If you are careful to use qualified names, and/or
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Thanks, Tim, for noticing that and thanks, Ivan, for taking care of it. I
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Now that we know that this change *does* break some existing code, I think it
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> Without any additional information, should this be closed as 'Works for Me'?
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It seems we have a difference of opinion here. Serhiy closed this issue so,
Mark, if you feel strongly enough to pursue it, you should reopen it and
solicit other opinions. The clock has just about run out to change the now
current behavior for 3.7.0
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windows. Python itself does not create any such windows; they are created by
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It would be great if the URL in the template were constructed from the value of
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What's the status of this issue? 3.7.0b2 is tagging in 48 hours or so and
3.6.5rc1 is in less than 2 weeks.
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OK, I agree with Brett and Nick. Barry, are you OK with reverting this change
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Thanks, Barry! I don't see that either action is ideal but I am concerned
about breaking third-party packages and 2 (already known) breakages is
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Note that this change was originally also backported to 3.6 in PR 5504 but, due
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So we need a decision on this about what, if anything, to do for 3.7. The
3.7.0 ABI freeze is in 3.7.0b3; it would be better to get it resolved for
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Vinay, should this backported to 3.6? Otherwise, can the issue be closed?
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Eric, please try to get everything you want done and into master as soon as
possible, then produce a PR for 3.7, and then we can review it and make a
decision if it is appropriate for 3.7. As I've mentioned in msg310448 and
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a consensus that the current 3.7 behavior needs to change and the proposed
change is quite large, I think we should not change anything now for b2. You
can have a discussion on
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Christoph, thanks for your suggestion. If you think the documentation needs
improving, please open a new issue with any suggested wording (or, even better,
a doc PR). This issue (issue15767) has long been closed and any discussion
here is likely to not be acted
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We are still seeing the 3.7 and 3.8 FreeBSD buildbot failures Victor identified
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I agree with Alexey's analysis.
Koobs, could you please open a new issue about the failing test? Unless
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resident on ZFS, the fix is to skip the test on FreeBSD as well if Z
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Thanks for your report. Alas, this is expected behavior. As documented, the
Boolean values False and True behave like the integers 0 and 1; this behavior
dates back to the earliest days of Python. So when you pass False to open, you
are passing the integer 0
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Terry:
> Is "this will only be useful on Windows," in the source-deps readme still
> true? It appears that the tcl/tk tar.gz source is meant for Mac also.
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Revert "bpo-31961: subprocess now accepts path-like args (GH-4329)" (#5912)
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(GH-5931)
https://github.com/p
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outstanding review comments, I decided to revert this from both master and 3.7
for 3.7.0b2. I would suggest getting a polished version stabilized in master
for 3.8.0. We could
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As of 3.7.0b1, the new macOS 10.9+ installer variant includes a private copy of
Tcl/Tk 8.6: 8.6.7 for 3.7.0b1, updated to 8.6.8 for 3.7.0b2. The framework
layout is pretty much the same as in the original attempt, that is, everything
is installed within /Library
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Victor, FYI, 3.7.0b2 has just been released and the macOS 10.9+ installer
contains an updated version of Tcl/Tk (8.6.7 -> 8.6.8). According to the Tk
change log, there were a number of macOS related fixes that went in to 8.6.8.
Perhaps some of the glitches
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Tommy, you should ask your question elsewhere, like on Stackoverflow or on the
Python mailing list. It does not seem related to this issue at all or to
indicate a problem with Python itself. (For the record, the Python Developer's
Guide has some good tips o
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situation on macOS is still less than desirable. For 3.7.0b2, I have tried to
make things more obvious in two ways. One, the installer package will now
attempt to open a Finder window
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> I agree that it is very small, but I still think it is indeed a security
> issue, because it can crash real world program when called by some library
> used in Deep Learning ASR project.
That sounds like a programming error, not a security bug. The
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Thanks for the report. The behavior you see can be further isolated to
socket.gethostbyname:
>>> import socket
>>> h =
>>> "0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123.example.com"
>>> socket.get
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release branches. Also, if
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cd Doc
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-0.5. I have mixed feelings about this. While I can see the utility of it, I
think more recently we have been moving away from the concept of installed
scripts for standard library features primarily because they are difficult to
manage when there are multiple
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/18fd89246333bfa1b76c1623d
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> necessary to do, isn't it?
Yes and no. wave.py is doing checking and can raise various exceptions. So a
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Yes, backporting all of the required code to earlier releases would be out of
scope for a maintenance release, particularly at this late stage in the 3.6
life cycle. Let's see whether disabling the GC is a sufficient workaround
until 3.7 is avai
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This is now marked as a security issue but I do not understand what the problem
is. urllib / urllib2 are supposed to be able to open file:// style URLs, that
was not the point of Issue11662.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/urllib.request.html
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This issue seems to have slipped through the cracks with a couple of
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Based on the review comments, it looks like the existing PR 3931 needs to be
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buildbot; for example:
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