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As Ronald notes, as of 3.9.1, we are for the immediate future providing two
macOS installer variants: the traditional 10.9+ Intel-64 variant that is built
on 10.9 and includes Tk 8.6.8 and the new "experimental" 10.9+ "universal2"
(Apple
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Thanks, Ronald and others. I have done some testing now with macOS 11 Big Sur
and retested on 10.15 Catalina and with various versions of Tk and what I am
seeing is as follows.
- On macOS 11.1 Big Sur with IDLE.app from the python.org 3.9.1 universal2
installer
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> about the missing lzma.h file.
Unfortunately, Apple does not include the XZ library with macOS so, to build
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Also note that there are known problems with using the "fork" start method of
multiprocessing on macOS. As of Python 3.8, the default start methord on macOS
is now "spawn":
https://docs.python.org/3.9/library/multiprocessing.html#contexts-an
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I tried your test programs on a M1 Mac running macOS 11.1 with the latest macOS
universal2 Pythons available from python.org
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same (correct) result as in your 3.8 example. Are you
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Yes, otool should work. Something like:
$ otool -L $(python3.9 -c 'import _ctypes;print(_ctypes.__file__)')
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/lib-dynload/_ctypes.cpython-39-darwin.so:
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> Seems that we are getting the same libffi.dylib.
I suppose it is still possible that another libffi is being found first. To be
absolutely sure, you could ask dyld to print the loaded libraries:
$ DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 python3.9 test_main.py
[...]
d
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> What exactly is the backport status for this issue, and is there anything
> with more info for this user?
Python 3.6 has been in the security-fix-only phase of its life cycle since
2018-12 which means that python.org binary installers for Mac or W
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It is certainly not good that some of the vfx users are seeing a crash. On the
other hand, at this stage of Python 3.7's life cycle only security-related
fixes are accepted as a primary goal is to keep 3.7 as stable and unchanged as
possible for those
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> This can be observed by using the python 3.9.1 universal2 installer and using
> it on
> x86_64 Big Sur or with Rossetta 2 on arm64 Big Sur.
When not manually setting SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1, I cannot reproduce this
behavior on current Big Sur (11.1
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> was it tested on macOS 11.2 ?
> Tests fail there with Python 3.9.1
The change to re-enable the previously crashing test will first be released in
3.9.2 and AFAICT no longer causes a crash. There are other Tk-related test
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It's also in the recently-released 3.10.0a5 release preview.
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There already is a mechanism to do that: on the "Installation Type" window of
the macOS installer app sequeence, select "Customize" and then deselect the
"Shell profile update" package. Another option is to use the macOS "instal
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Similar to Issue43167, there already is a mechanism to do that: on the
"Installation Type" window of the macOS installer app sequeence, select
"Customize" and then deselect the "UNIX command-line tools" package. Another
option
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I'm not sure that the text on the "Installation Type" window can be customized
but we could add something to either the "Introduction" or "Read Me" windows.
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On the Installation Type -> Customize window in the installer, there is an
explanation of a package when you can click on it. For Unix command-line tools
package, the explanation (at the bottom of the window) is:
"This package installs the unix tools
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I suggest you take that UX issue up with Apple as we have no control over the
macOS Installer app and it has worked that way for a long, long time :)
If the proposed solution in Issue43167 of adding s
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Are you sure there wasn't an existing virtual environment at .venv? By default,
venv does not upgrade an existing environment. Try deleting the .venv directory
first, assuming there is nothing in the environment you want to save. Otherwise
you coul
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It could be that the activate is failing for some reason in that directory or
terminal session. Try it in a new terminal session after entering "set -x" so
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[3.7] bpo-42967: only use '&' as a query string separator (GH-24297) (GH-24531)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d0d4d30882fe3ab9
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[3.6] bpo-42967: only use '&' as a query string separator (GH-24297) (GH-24532)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/5c17dfc5d70ce88b
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@mdk, This seems to be working great for the the python.org doc builds. What do
you think about backporting this to the current active branches so that the doc
builds for individual releases and those included with binary installers show
the new generic links
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> Ned, do you have any comments, pro or con, about doing so.
I don't think there is a conflict here and I don't really have an opinion as I
don't use Windows regularly. From a bit of web research, it looks like the
closest thing to Windows j
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1.1.1j was issued earlier this week and, from browsing the source, it appears
that this fix is included (it's not mentioned as a major issue) along with
other fixes. So I assume we just need to update the installers to use 1.1.1j.
The question is then do ne
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If the crashes are occurring while the multiprocessing fork tests are running,
it's likely the issue described in Issue33725. In Python 3.8, the default start
method for multiprocessing on macOS was changed to be "spawn" rather than
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bpo-42603: Use pkg-config to get TCL/TK paths for tkinter. (GH-23721)
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What version of Python (and Tcl/Tk) are you running on your Intel Macn that
does not fail? Currently, we use Tcl/Tk 8.6.11 with the macOS 64-bit universal2
installer variant as of Python 3.9.2 and 3.10.0a4; previously, they used
8.6.10. All other current
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>From where are you getting the Python that you are using in the app? A number
>of those libraries are not part of the python.org Mac binaries. And are you
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Hmm, yours is the first report of this here that I'm aware of. I see other
reports on the web of other non-Python projects running into similar problems.
So one question is what has changed? Can you report the version info string of
this Python? Hav
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Apple Developer Forums. My first guess is that the App Store validation process
is trying to incorrectly apply rules to your local Python framework (from the
Python.org inst
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> What am I suppose to do?
I appreciate that it's a nasty problem. Unfortunately, this is unknown
territory for me: I have no experience with the Mac App Store and this is the
first time I've run across a report like this. So the question again
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In summary, the Python binaries provided by python.org macOS installers for
already end-of-life versions of Python, like 3.5 and earlier 3.x versions, do
not run on macOS 11 Big Sur and attempting to build these end-of-life versions
from source will still not
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The reason time.thread_time() and several other functions in other modules that
all depend on features in newer versions of macOS were not available in
python.org macOS binaries because the installers are meant to support a range
of operating system releases
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Sorry, I cannot reproduce that behavior. The output you show isn't what I would
expect, in any case.
$ python3.8
Python 3.8.7 (v3.8.7:6503f05dd5, Dec 21 2020, 12:45:15)
[Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", &
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need to run the "Install Certificates.command" file installed into the
/Applications/Python 3.x" folder for the version installed. This is noted in
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It certainly could be an issue with using GNU readline vs libedit and Terry is
correct that you should follow up with Homebrew. But I don't think you stated
from which code editor application you were copying from; that could also make
a difference. In any
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Irv, I'm sorry you are having problems and I think it is very reasonable to
bump the priority of the issue as you are not alone, even though, as Terry
notes, a complete resolution may require changes elsewhere. I am looking more
into this now. macOS
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Thanks, Andrew, for the offer. I think we have enough to go on right now but we
may want to touch base a bit later.
>From your comment about how IDLE on macOS is different than it is on Windows
>or Linux, I assume that means you may be new to IDLE on macO
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Thank you for going to the trouble to produce the movie, Irv! It was very
helpful. It turns out the disappearing window issue is because you are using
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installer variant. For some reason
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Irv, thanks for the feedback and the attempt. I think we had a little bit of a
misunderstanding on our end so I don't think we need you to try anything more
for this problem.
Terry, I apologize if I left the impression that there was some doubt about
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Thanks for your report. Because of very low usage and the increasing difficulty
of supporting new features and bug fixes on very old versions of macOS, like
10.6.x, we no longer provide binary installers on python.org for macOS versions
earlier than 10.9. On top
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