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https://buildbot.python.org/all/#/builders/366/builds/325
I wonder if there might be a Makefile race condition.
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I can reproduce test_idle hanging on all of the current python.org macOS
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the legacy 10.9 variants for 3.8.10 and 3.9.5 which use Tk 8.6.8. I've tried
it on a few older system
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While there's is useful information on that web page, I don't think it is a
satisfactory answer to what I believe is being requrested here, namely, "How do
I determine to what extent platform X is supported by cPython?" First, the
informatio
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I can reproduce this behavior when using the current default 3.9.x macOS
installer which uses Tk 8.6.8. It appears to work correctly if you instead use
the alternate 3.9.x macOS universal2 installer which bundles Tk 8.6.11. The
universal2 variant will be the
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Phil, there are still some as yet unresolved differences between using Tk 8.6.8
and 8.6.11, both positive and negative, and there are a few differences between
using the two variants under all conditions that we want to resolve. So, at the
moment, we will
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Thanks for the comment. While the original intent of the issue was resolved (by
updating the bundled pip), Serhiy's point about the size of the repo increasing
is still an issue but there is a more recent issue, Issue36608, with a proposed
change that addr
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That excerpt is not executable by itself. Without a reproducible test case and
better traceback info, there is not enough information here to investigate
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> Is it possible to update bz2 to 1.0.8 on macOS distribution?
Thanks for looking into this. As I commented on PR 27241, this change is not
needed because current macOS python.org installers dynamically link to the
system-provided copies of Bzip2; the code
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Sorry you are running into this problem. Alas, Python 3.6 has been in the
"security-fix-only" phase of its life cycle for over 2.5 years now and will
reach end-of-life in several months at the end of 2021. Our criteria for
changes to a "secur
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Summary: With the 3.10.0rc1 release, this performance regression in the
var_access_benchmark starting with the 3.10.0b1 binaries in the python.org
macOS universal2 installer is now resolved. With the rc1 release, the
performance of this micro benchmark has
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Thanks for the report. I verified that the crash also occurs on an Intel Mac VM
with Monterey beta 4 using the current python.org universal2 installers for
3.9.6 and 3.10.0rc1; they both have a private copy of Tk 8.6.11; so the problem
does not appear to be
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> later; wouldn't this mean that a Big Sur build wouldn't work on Catalina?
No, if it is done correctly. I think you are trying to solve the wrong problem
here
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> I used brew.sh to install Python, which I think uses the universal installer
As far as I know, Homebrew builds its own Python and Tk.
> After I reinstall macOS, if you need further testing, i’m open to trying.
Thanks. I think the next step would be to
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There was a previous attempt at adding a dependency on venv that ended up being
reverted (Issue30487 and 122fc136b34e11906466851e77bb6959946467ee0). Over the
years we have had a number of iterations of tweaking Doc/Makefile to balance
ease of use (by providing
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"Provide “python3.x-intel64” executable
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Thanks for the suggestion but 8.7 isn't even in beta yet, the most recent
official release was 8.7a5. So it is way too early to consider moving the
python.org installers to it.
https://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.7.html
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Can you be more specific about what you mean by "executable" and "library"?
In particular, please show the results of, where /path/to/python is replaced by
the path to the python you have built or installed:
otool -L $(/path/to/python -c &#
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It is difficult to offer suggestions based on minimal information. You may be
running into an arch mismatch: since you are requesting a universal2 build
(x86_64 and arm64), all the third-party libraries your build links with must
also be built with both
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installers should be updated to it.
https://www.openssl.org/source/
However, it appears that 1.1.1l introduced a build failure on older macOS
systems that would affect some
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> I guess we could wrap this functionality with some preprocessor conditionals,
> and/or adjust the configure script to not accept
> --enable-loadable-sqlite-extensions for macOS 11.5.1 (11.5.x?).
FTR, this is only a problem if you link with the Apple
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New changeset 71853a73024a98aa38a3c0444fe364dbd9709134 by Tobias Bergkvist in
branch 'main':
bpo-44689: ctypes.util.find_library() now finds macOS 11+ system libraries when
built on older macOS systems (#27251)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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> I'm not against making Python even better: attempt to normalize the path ;-)
I would be very cautious about doing that. I'm pretty sure it would break some
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in branch '3.7':
bpo-45001: Make email date parsing more robust against malformed input
(GH-27946) (GH-27975)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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[3.7] bpo-43124: Fix smtplib multiple CRLF injection (GH-25987) (GH-28037)
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[3.7] bpo-44394: Update libexpat copy to 2.4.1 (GH-26945) (GH-28042)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/79101b890ee021a901a8b6837a3a32
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bpo-38965: Fix faulthandler._stack_overflow() on GCC 10 (GH-17467) (GH-28079)
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I decided to also backport this fix for 3.6.15 since the problem causes test
hangs when using GCC 10, as is now that case on one of my test machines. Note
that the devguide says: "You should also consider fixing hard-failing tests in
open security branches
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What problem are you reporting here? Python 3.9.2 is no longer current nor
supported; the most recent release is 3.9.7, which, among many other changes,
now uses OpenSSL 1.1.1l.
https://www.python.org/downloads/
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0596/
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I don't think we have ever claimed to support building on an older system with
a newer SDK, as in building on 10.15 with an 11 SDK. I am sure there have been
problems with trying to do this in the past for some releases. It *may* work
but there a
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Thanks for the updates!
>If the core developers say various cross-compiling scenarios aren't supported
>build configuration any more, I'll accept that and work around the limitation
>on my end. However, do note there is a significant pos
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Aasland in branch 'main':
bpo-44848: Update macOS installer to use SQLite 3.36.0 (GH-27621)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/5024dc1c6e08247693aea6ad6e225e
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The crash report you provide shows a crash in libstdc++ which is normally not
called directly by the Python interpreter or standard library modules on macOS
but appears to be being called by libopenblas as provided by the copy of numpy
in use. Suggest you follow
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See my comment on the PR.
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Unfortunately, using "arch" is *not* a reliable way in general.
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utility to find or override the default location of header and library files
when building a few C extensions in the standard library, namely from OpenSSL
for the _ssl module, libffi for
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The updates to aclocal.a4 are generated by the aclocal tool of the GNU build
system. That, and other things including autoconf, gets run by autoreconf.
Running autoconf by itself is not sufficient.
https://devguide.python.org/setup/#regenerate-configure
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The updates to aclocal.m4 are generated by the aclocal tool of the GNU build
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Running autoconf by itself is not sufficient.
https://devguide.python.org/setup/#regenerate-configure
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> If you want, I can send a PR.
Thanks, that would be good. Embedding is something we currently don't really
test, unfortunately. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure how feasible it would
be to add some tests for embedding, especially given
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Thanks for the PR. However, it did introduce a breakage in certain builds due
to unconditionally adding a check for libnetwork. For example, on older
releases of macOS there is no libnetwork but building on newer systems it
creates a dynamic load reference to a
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> IIRC activating lto is specially annoying on MacOS due to the need of some
> llvm components that are a bit hard to get
Can you say more? We are currently using --with-lto with a vanilla Apple
Command Line Tools (or Xcode) for macOS installer build
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> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/make build_all_merge_profile
> /usr/local/bin/llvm-profdata merge -output=code.profclangd *.profclangr
It looks like your build was trying to use a mixture of llvm tools, probably
clang from the Apple-supplied C
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On what platform and OS version are you building? When you say "public llvm /
clang", do you mean from Apple for macOS or from some other source? Be aware
that we only officially test and support building Python for macOS on macOS
itself using the A
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describing. So, yes, it would be good to fix the test in configure so that it
does work with a newer clang that does implement the --print-multiarch command
line option. FTR, th
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> Do you plan to stick with $PLATFORM_TRIPLET = darwin, even on the arm
> machines?
For now, yes. Apple long ago implemented the equivalent of multi-architecture
support using "-arch" in the compiler driver and the Python build system
(con
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https://www.python.org/about/help/ has a good list of resources and, among the
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> Note that this issue isn't macOS specific: you will get the same failure when
> cross-compiling targeting Linux. e.g. --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> --host=i686-unknown-linux-gnu.
Can you be more specific? This particular issue isn't ab
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New changeset 9c4766772cda67648184f8ddba546a5fc0167f91 by David Bohman in
branch 'main':
bpo-45405: Prevent ``internal configure error`` when running ``configure``
with recent versions of non-Apple clang. (#28845)
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Merged for release in 3.10.1 and 3.9.8. Thanks for the issue and PR, David!
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> --print-multiarch and the triple logic in configure related to MULTIARCH
> applies to all platforms, not just macOS.
If there are still issues on other supported platforms
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