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https://docs.python.org/2.7/using/cmdline.html#interface-options __main__.py
(not indexed) has been supported since 2.5. On the other hand, recursively
grepping Lib for 'e' in __main__.py files hits about 20 files
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I have not tried your patch yet, but the relevant code seems to be
class ModifiedInterpreter(InteractiveInterpreter):
def runcode(self, code):
if code.co_filename[0] != '<': ## your patch
self.tkconsole.wri
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Nitika, congrats on first patch. One minor problem: spaces at end of lines. It
it my fault for not checking, but try to avoid them anyway.
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- from Tkinter import Tk, Text, TclError
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? ^
- from test.test_support import requires
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partly wrong because restart_shell is called before runcode when runcode is use
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self.tkconsole.executing == True.) This
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I use rstrip routinely when editing idlelib files, before committing, so it has
been useful for that purpose.
I do not happen to know what reindent.py does that the current format options
do not.
#18704 was about integrating the pep8 style checker. That was
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When quoting from the docs, it is helpful to give a link.
https://docs.python.org/2/library/multiprocessing.html#examples
That also identifies the version.
I verified that the example fails on my 2.7.6 Windows 7 with
PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's
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In 2.x, 1 is guaranteed to be true, in that sense that
if 1: print 'true'
is guaranteed to print 'true', while True is not necessarily true.
>>> True = 0
>>> if True: print 'yes'
>>>
So 2.x docs shoul
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Third party compiled C crashers are nasty. Two suggestions:
1. Reduce the failing example to the minimum needed to fail. If you bypass all
the python code in maps.py and device.py and just 'import dmraid', do you still
get a crash at that poin
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recursion to iteration with a stack (which I could try to do), but I don't know
if the deep recursion is expected in this case, or is a bug. Tim?
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This is definitely a duplicate of #16261 and should be closed at such.
On that issue, in msg202448, I explained that #15313 is about except: in
idlelib and idlelib must be patched separately for the reason Raymond repeated
(point 2). The other reason (point 1
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The docstring is more accurate.
">>> str.translate.__doc__
'S.translate(table) -> str\n\nReturn a copy of the string S, where all
characters have been mapped\nthrough the given translation table, which must be
a mapping of\nUnicode ordina
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I noticed the same while working on #21139 and posted there a patch,
21139-34-fpe.diff, that adds a limit parameter to .format_paragraph_event. Test
could then specify a width for each test without touching the user
configuration. Different tests could use
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I believe that there have been discussions on this point and my memory is to
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A file per news entry seems a bit much, but an optional file per developer
would solve most of the problem for those who have a problem with the status
quo. Add a directory named, for instance, news.3.4.1. Put in a template with
the allowed section headings
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On 4/20/2014 7:59 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
>
>> This is already not a rule because the devguide mentions inserting new
>> items at random positions to avoid conflicts due to another commit.
>
&
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For the recommendation actually put in the devguide, change 'random position'
to 'position near but not at the top'.
https://docs.python.org/devguide/committing.html#news-entries ends with
"A nice trick to make Mercurial’s autom
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If we put news items in a database keyed by issue number (and I think it
reasonable that all news-worthy patches should have a tracker issue), then
there would be no conflicts. (We already avoid simultaneous commits to the same
issue.) If the database had
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Moving News items from the repository to the tracker, where I think they
initially belong anyway, would also remove them as an issue for a future gating
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A sequential log of commit messages for a particular branch would give one an
even better snapshot view of activity since not all commits have news messages
and even when they do, commit messages sometimes have additional info. But see
below.
The essence of
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My concern with a file for each entry is a possible slowdown of some
operations, like TortoiseHg resyncing the diff between repository and working
directory (it is not instantaneous even now). However, if there are multiple
directories and if they are emptied
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I applied my patch as part of #21284. When I did so, I added 'limit=70' so that
the tests pass otherwise unchanged. The only thing left here is to change
config-main.def.
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I put 21138 in the commit message. The push messages are these.
New changeset 374746c5dedc by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '2.7':
Issue #21138: Change default reformat paragraph width to PEP 8's 72.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/374746c5dedc
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Serhiy, is this something you can review?
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A patch against default, including a test, would be helpful.
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I am on the fence as to whether this should be treated as a bug fix or
enhancement. Claudiu's pydev post gives this as the current
InteractiveInterpreter behavior.
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>>> try:
...1 / 0
... except ZeroDivisi
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The link in the first message does not work. This should:
https://docs.python.org/devguide/documenting.html
The section under discussion, which pydev controls, as opposed to the full .rst
doc at http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html, is
https
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There are no versions for the devguide. There is another misplaced role:
:
option
A command-line option of Python. The leading hyphen(s) must be included. If
a matching cmdoption directive exists, it is linked to. For options of other
programs or scripts
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With respect to editing final peps, I think this issue should be closed. The
current PEP 1 statement accurately describes what we do, which is that in
general we do not edit final peps. Moreover, Chris has not submitted a patch
and I doubt anyone else knows
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The only change is that '25' is now '28'.
A possible solution, without changing Sphinx, is to reduce the headers to a
couple of words and put the question under the header, possibly in italics.
*Q. How do I do this difficult thing?*
A. D
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Generic ideas like this, without specific patch or patch prospect, should be
first posted on python-ideas. You can reopen this if there is a concrete
proposal with some support.
However, I agree with Brett about an Exif module. We do not even have an image
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This appears to be a tcl/tk(ttk) issue. You rediscovered what is documented
here:
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/web/ttk-Entry.html
Table 40. ttk.Entry options
fontUse this option to specify the font of the text that will appear in the
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"An augmented assignment expression like x += 1 can be rewritten as x = x + 1
to achieve a similar, but not exactly equal effect. In the augmented version, x
is
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Augmented assignment confuses enough people that I think we can improve the
doc. In #21358 I suggest an augmented version of the previous claim, about
evaluation just once. I think something here is needed perhaps even more. I
have not decided what just yet
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I forgot the # in commit message.
Changeset: 90501 (9a0fc12991e2) Closes 21048: Index 'as' in import and with
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Adam P, please don't screw around with the version headers. If you want to
claim that this is a security issue of the type we care about (threats to the
public internet) for patching old releases, and severe enough that we should do
anything about it, s
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The new patch adds a docstring with spec template, a second example, and a
crude runall(). I am inclined to push this as a base for further patches -- at
least one to improve runall and others to test more widget classes. These might
be separate issues
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New patch. I refined the definition of the parameter for run() in the process
of adding a test for EditorWindow.HelpDialog. This cannot be tested directly.
This example is also a reminder that some files define more than one display
widget.
I should try
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Adam P. I politely asked you to leave the headers alone. Since you ignored
that, LEAVE THE HEADERS ALONE! If you continue, you will eventually get banned.
An issue gets dealt with when a volunteer core developer makes it his top
priority. In the past 24
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Nick, do you agree that this should be treated as a bug (apply to all 3
versions)?
Should debug messages be 'print'ed, sent to stderr, or go through the warnings
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Defective patches removed and replaced with one that includes current htest.py
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New submission from Joshua J Cogliati:
The -3 option should warn about str to bytes conversions and str to bytes
comparisons:
For example in Python 3 the following happens:
python3
Python 3.3.2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for mo
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have some end-of-module test now, many with errors.
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If the purpose of backporting .format was/is to help people writing
forward-looking code, or now, to write 2&3 code, then it should work like
.format in 3.x, at lease when the format string is unicode.
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Audioop was not removed in 3.x; the security bugs have been fixed; and no
lawsuit. I agree with Aaron about modifying 2 files. I would also change
'shamelessly stolen' to 'taken'. IP is no longer something to joke about.
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Hm. That is a good point. Possibly it could only be done when
from __future__ import unicode_literals
has been used. For example:
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Python 2.7.5
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for mor
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3.1 to 3.3 only get internet security patcches, and I don't believe this is
such an issue.
It is not clear from the title (a statement, not a request) and your text what
specific patch you would like. If you want to 'reopen a discussion',
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A reference to a non-existent attribute fails no matter who calls the function.
Stephen, can you suggest a patch, perhaps based on code in other functions that
try to access _default_root?
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The generic error message for the first is 'False is not true'. Clear but
useless. The error message for the second is the more specific ' is not None'. Since the expression was supposed to evaluate to
None, but did not, it would be helpful
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I was thinking the same thing. This appears to be one of the 2.x bugs that have
been fixed in 3.x but not 2.x because backporting the fix might break working
code. If there another sensible fix that would be acceptable in 2.x
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I compile 32 bit debug binaries from repository with the free VC++ express
2010. I presume the 'install' option works.
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Creating issues with patches, so others can comment, is a good idea even when
you have commit rights. Adding yourself to
https://docs.python.org/devguide/experts.html#experts
is a good way to test new commit rights
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Steve, I am *really* glad you caught this. We obviously need a new test
somewhere that would have caught this before the release. How is the installer
tested now? Is it run and the installed python tested with the test suite? If
so, a new idle test that runs
New submission from Terry J. Reedy:
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any of idlelib/idle.(bat, py, pyw). Test should presumably use subprocess. Look
at test.support.interactive_python for either direct use or as a model. It in
turn uses
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is obsolete for Python3 and unicode identifiers.
def fixwordbreaks(root):
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# operations use our definition
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some possible improvements to htest itself follow. Many depend on not reusing
run, as it now it, in the runall loop. What is left in common to both might be
factored out.
* For
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Saimadhav's GSOC project. #21477 proposes changes to htest itself. Adding tests
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>Due to the risk of breaking existing user code which uses these private
>functions, they should be left with old signature and new functions should be
>added.
The reason we make things private is so we don't have to do this. Why would you
mak
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the actual request. UTF-8 *is* already the default encoding in 3.x, and
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It took me awhile to re-recognize Это из консоли: as 'made in konsole'.
I agree that the discrepancy between Idle shell and console is a bug relative
to a general goal of having them work as nearly the same as possible and
sensible.
> This bug is
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Idle 3.x has Martin's patch, except that the 'if' clause is merely commented
out rather than removed. (Perhaps someone wanted to test the removal first. It
should now be deleted.)
My 2.7 Idle has Default Source Encoding ... [x] None. Since t
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Moving discussion to python-ideas was the right thing to do. I am closing this
for the present as there is no concrete accepted idea to write a patch for.
Thomas, if that changes, you can re-open.
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