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The test_delegator patches were useful for working out and testing the use of
the gui resource.
However, they are not appropriate for testing the Delegator class. It is a
standalone class that has nothing to do with tkinter; in fact, the file has no
imports
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I asked on the core-mentorship list about pydev test philosophy. I got useful
answers from Nick and Antoine that can be summarized as "We are pragmatic, not
dogmatic." One may have to be a list member to read this link, but here it is.
http://mail.
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Todd, do you have a Mac to test this on?
This patch treat sending messages to a widget as a backup option. In 18318 I
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handled by the gui. Console writing, when availa
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The proposal here is to flip the roles of text console and graphics gui, rather
than to indefinitely bandage the current roles. I would want that even with the
patch for #13582 applied (which I hope can be done soon
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Print in the user process goes to shell window. You need to stimulate (or just
add) print or warn in the idle process, which normally goes to console, or
nowhere. It is hard (intentionally, I am sure) to dynamically manipulate idle
process code. Roger said
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not apply to 3.3, which must be patched first. And the merge to 3.4 likewise
failed for two files. We
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To end proposals for new syntax to do what they do for triple-quoted strings.
Nick Coghlan gave reasons as follows: run time cost small, can be optimized
away, would be used more than some other string methods.
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas
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The test passes as written, so I am not sure what 'mostly works' means.
I said elsewhere, and revised README to match, that I changed my mind about
test case names starting with 'Test'. Ending with 'Test' is much more commo
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The patch models Text.data as a single string. But a tkinter Text contains a
sequence of strings. While the single sequence works for the one test of the
...event method, a list of strings is needed for .get and many other methods
with position parameters to
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Phil (and Todd): I do not know what you mean by "behaves like more like an
actual Text Widget" and whether you are talking about internal or external
behavior. But I know that tk does not use an immutable string to hold the text.
There is no such
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line numbe
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I want to make two separate commits. First add mock Text into mock_tk.py, and
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out that it only tests a few special search cases. I am guessing that they have
something to do with
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of a mock class is to imitate another class with respect to certain behaviors.
The way to verify that is does that is to run the same set of tests for those
behaviors with both
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'keyword argument' refers one to 'argument'. The entry for the latter says that
there are only two types of arguments, keyword and positional. That is true as
to how actual arguments are passed.
There are 3 possibilities for how a s
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or two if really needed. The email signature is *never* needed and *always*
noise.
I install on Windows with no problem. I presume you too see 'Install' by
right-click
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The new 'which' should be 'that'. Other than that, looks good to me.
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Thank you for the snips.
Have you installed other applications that use a .msi installer (many do not).
Have you tried another Python installer? For instance, change .5 to .3 in your
link.
Are you using a 64-bit installer on 32-bit Windows? It seems not as the
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You will have to wait until Martin can respond, but the log says failure
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C:\Users\astar\AppData\Local\Temp\MSIA812.tmp entry: _CheckDir@4
Description from web:
Driver Install Frameworks for Applications library module
This appears to part of
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* Create root directly (and just once); add root.destroy, which added several
warnings.
* Create Text directly; test should not require Editors. This removed warnings.
I suspect that EditorWindow.py does other things that are not
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Upon further review and tests, I notice that ._decode
* is a partial implementation of Text.index,
* so it should be renamed index and tested against Text.index,
* and it currently returns the wrong values for 'end' and high out-of-bounds
indexes.
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Whoops, I got that partly wrong in that index returns a 'r.c' string after
doing what _decode is supposed to do, which is to decode the input according to
the current text. The mock index should just return '%s.%s' %
_decode(position)
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The real problem with 'end' and 'big.m' is that there are three proper
decodings, depending on the method asking. I think this patch mostly solves the
problems mentioned before. All tests, including many new ones, pass.
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A little more polishing and the tests pass again. I think I am done with the
implemented methods. Before I commit, I want to review the set of 'pass'
functions. It seems a bit haphazard. I think display changing methods like .see
are fine.I am not
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I want to commit this patch more or less as is so we can move forward with the
tests that do not need anything more. We can then elaborate mock Text as needed
and desired.
Looking at http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/text.htm, for instance, I see that
'li
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I know that there is no proper regrtest doc to update, but is there a docstring
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I documented and left most of the 'pass' methods. The bind method is inherited
from Misc class and is not specifically a Text method, but I will leave it here
for now. These
def undo_block_start(self, *args):
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def undo_block
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I expect to find things like this while writing tests. A small fix can be part
of the test file commit, like I did with configSectionNameDialog and its test.
In any case, where is the test that fails without the patch and passes with it?
It should be part of
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Phil (and everyone else): PLEASE submit patches with 4 space indents and no
tabs and no trailing spaces. Even if the code below runs in the CPython
interpreter,
self.undo = mockUndoDelegator() <8 spaces>
<4 spaces>
def get_selec
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Well, that is annoying. I expected 2.7 failures due to mistakes already
corrected, but not with 3.x, and these look to be the latter.
==
ERROR: setUpClass
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I am aware of patchcheck, but the problem for me is that 'make patchcheck' does
not work on Windows; the doc is wrong on the awkward to type Windows
alternative; and it is usually useless anyway. But I agree that anyone who does
not use a editor con
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My current list of changed_files() (command from the code)
% hg status --added --modified --no-status
Lib\idlelib\RstripExtension.py
Misc\ACKS
Misc\NEWS
Lib\idlelib\idle_test\mock_idle.py
Lib\idlelib\idle_test\test_rstrip.py
but
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Trying it out, I rediscovered that patchcheck has a Windows bug. This time I
reported it ;-) #18439.
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I had to remove the dependency to close this, since the test_text issue #18365
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A simple change to RstripExtension.py fixed the marking of unchanged files as
changed. I also removed a useless extra iteration. Having a test makes it
possible to do things like this without breaking what already worked.
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Looking through the 11 stable 3.x buildbots (1 still running), I see 3 outcomes.
1. Windows: test seemed to run, test_idle listed in 'altered environment'.
2. Some *nix: test gave no error, test_idle lit in 'tests skipped'. I presume
this
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This is a continuation of #18365, where it was discovered after the first set
of pushes that
test.support.requires('gui')
is currently insufficient (on non-Windows systems) for skipping gui tests on
buildbots when they should be skipped, b
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The change worked, so this issue can be closed. I opened a new issue, #18441,
for dealing with the problem in test_idle by moving the TclError check there,
so it does not arise in other idle_test/test_*.py files.
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(If someone else wants to take this before I get to it, feel free. But there
seems to be enough support to add something eventually.)
It seems that Rietveld is able to ignore the binaries, but in the future, lets
separate the text and images. If nothing else
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As I said on one of the other issues, which I hope you read, we have the option
of gui tests when mocking becomes too complicated. So at least for now, put the
test that requires marks in a separate test case with requires('gui') in
setUPClass.
T
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Is the scope of this issue just what is in the title, the whole PEP, or
something in between;-?
For instance, Guido once approved (on pydev) adding an admonition to
Programming Recommendations something like the following.
* Use a def statement instead of an
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The public versus internal part of this issue is related to #10434 Document the
rules for "public names", which contains among other things a suggested rewrite
for PEP 8.
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http://docs.python.org/3/reference/executionmodel.html#naming-and-binding
says "The following are blocks: ... a class definition." and
"If a name binding operation occurs anywhere within a code block, all uses of
the name within the block
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What I think still needs to be done.
* FormatParagraph.py:
As near as I can tell from the patch, the comments are correct except that one
is needed for reformat_paragraph.
I gather that the substantive code change allows reformatting of a comment
block when
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I am dubious that the current code will work with tkinter. Marks name slice
positions. Tags name 0 to many pairs of slice positions, with 'sel' predefined
as corresponding to a mouse selection and limited to one pair. According to my
tests, tag_add(
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The files are built and included with the Windows installer. Perhaps they can
be installed without installing anything else. In any case, unless they are
(again?) made available as a separate download,
"HTML Help (.chm) files are made available i
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Alexander, I added you for possible review because of your interest in time
functions. I wonder a bit if this function is redundant with functions in other
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'everytime' is not an English word and should be corrected; hardcoded should be
hard-coded. Could you at least describe your script. My fantasy is being able
to check text parts of files with the help of a program such as LibreOffice.
-
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Currently, all requires() tests pass when the file they occur in is run as
'__main__'. This is especially needed when the file ends with the now standard
boilerplate.
if __name__ == '__main__':
...
unittest.main(...)
as there
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#18441 is partly related in that it also suggests (eventually) moving check
code (for guis) from multiple test files to support and regrtest. I do not
believe there would be any conflict.
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Further changes should be aimed at actual idlelib uses. Wordstart and wordend
are used once each in AutoExpand.py (and wordstart a couple of times for
tag.start positions). So forget them.
Does idlelib really have indexes like "2.3 + 1c" ('
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Resolution is for when the issue is closed, and I expect this to be closed as
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Ronald or Ned, is the attached patch OK for Macs?
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I took a look. Not fun ;-).
Pending a more permanent fix, I am applying a revised patch, first to 2.7 to
make sure it works.
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Sorry, I forgot to paste the patch diff into Notepad++ rather than Idle in
order to save it without \r. (That would be a useful option for Idle too.) Good
to know that I can forget about Classic Mac. I deleted the debug print
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(The fix was incomplete because 'delete' in the except clause should be
'remove'.) I finally realized that I could test the except clause by raising
TclError explicitly just before it.
I reverted both changes because they do not seem to
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More noise. Much of what I said above was incorrect due to version mixup. The
one extra fix I did not commit might have been enough, but I will wait until I
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In 3.3.2, 3.4.0 the traceback says that the invalid continuation byte
(immediately, when '𐒢' is pasted) is ED. Snipped version is
File "F:\Python\dev\py33\lib\tkinter\__init__.py", line 1071,
self.tk.mainloop(n)
UnicodeDecodeError:
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Fixing 3.3 is more likely that 3.4. I can view RuntimeError as a bug less
obnoxious than crash, but others may differ. Ultimately, the release managers
can decide. This is definitely appropriate for 3.4, so please add tests. If the
patch is for 2.7, please
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If someone pushes a patch and closes the issue and the buildbots break,
reopening the issue is the appropriate response. Too much later and the pool of
potentially interested people will have changed. Anyway, the new issue is
#18539.
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Stephen, your class, or rather instances thereof when initialized with a
sequence, follow the old iteration protocol. You might call them iterators in
the generic sense, though I cannot remember whether we used 'iterator' much
before the introduct
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>>> '\uD80C\uDC80' == '\U00013080'
False
The statement that surrogate code units can be encoded this way is still true.
Indeed, it is now the only way to get such code units into a string. The
suggestion that a pair wi
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