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closed. FWIW, I ran
f:\dev\3x>python -m test -R 3:10 -m CommandLineTests test_compileall
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The image could have been attached to #27477, but a new issue for a new PR is
needed anyway. I will make this a dependency of that issue.
I did not at first see the difference in the screen-capture images on my
monitor in Firefox with the room lighting and
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By adding 'and other refinements' to the title and discussing them here, I made
this an index issue, with dependencies, for search. I am leaving this open as
that.
#33987 is about adding a ttk frame inside the top window. This is point 2
abov
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The change is also in 3.6.6, released the same day as 3.7.0. It was done
intentionally, without, as far as I know, consulting Python doc users. Users
were previously free to select the max line width they wanted.
On https://github.com/python/python-docs
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test_script_helper failed
f:\dev\3x> git pr 8034
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Switched to branch 'pr_8034'
f:\dev\3x>python -m test test_script_helper
...
== Te
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Zach, I believe you helped write make.bat. I can run 'make htmlhelp', but I
don't know how to modify make.bat to add option "-D
html_theme_options.body_max_width=none" specifical
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2. On both, 'Python x.y Manuals' always opens the .chm full-screen, even after
the user closes in part-screen mode. I think part-screen would be better for
the ini
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The patch now works for me and can be tested. The blurb is added and can be
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1. I saw "Python 3.7 Module Docs (64 bit)" twice. But this seems to be a local
issue. When I clicked on each, the second worked, the first brought up
something like 'The python.exe this shortcut points to had been deleted [or
moved?].
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bpo-34006: Revert line length limit for Windows help docs (GH-8051)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d824ca7f4df9b5f77cf02490b0e98c
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There are 3 ways to scroll by key in each direction: Arrow Down/Up, Page
Down/Up, and Cntl End/Home. There are 4 ways to scroll by mouse, in each
direction: Mousewheel down/up, Scrollbar arrow bottom/top (== Arrow keys),
Scrollbar trough below/above slider
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This issue, as stated, looks like a severe regression to me.
In each of my python installs, Lib/site-packages has a file called 'python.pth'
containing 'F:/Python'. This is not a glob of inscrutable code. It is not
even Python code. J
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The SyntaxError is not relevant. Interactive CPython:
>>> d=[]
>>> d=()
>>> d={}
>>>
Erroneous extra lines in IDLE 3.6+ Shell but not editor:
>>> d = []
>>> d=()
>>> d
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def funcname(param = 'somestring)
# Indent for next param.
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1 down, but how about my other questions?
Is there only a problem if the slider is the first thing touched?
Is there still a problem if the line "return 'break'" in
idlelib.editor.EditorWindow.handle_yview is deleted or disabled
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Eric, Nick, Serhiy: this issue proposes to extend the print message patch of
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Ryan: this tracker only covers issues with the PSF CPython distribution.
Problems with 3rd party modules like pywinauto are not our responsibility until
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A crash, for the tracker, is failed execution without a Python exception and
trackback.
Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, RHEL, and Ubuntu (AMD64) buildbots are currently green.
We don't have one for SUSE, open or other wise.
If you have not yet reported the
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bpo-33888: Use CPython instead of Python in the FAQ (GH-7767)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8d41278045ee4e8bf1cadb58a7db58
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Merged with Guido's approval on the PR. Thanks.
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We need to determine whether the problem is with tk/tkinter or specifically
with IDLE, and whether it has anything with using ttk. The attached file
duplicates the skeleton of an IDLE editor in 14 lines of tkinter code. This
includes putting a ttk
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The mouse over scrollbar behavior I described above is specific to the ttk
version. Mark Roseman has said that other ttk widgets *look* better on a ttk
frame. Does the frame make any difference for scrollbar
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The text widget in IDLE is actually an instance of MulticallCreator(Text). For
tk_scroll2.py, I added the idlelib import and the call to MulticallCreator.
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I think that this issue should be closed, as it is based on some confusions and
errors.
Textwrap works in terms of characters. The wrap method "wraps the single
paragraph in text (a string) so every line is at most width characters long."
When
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
If we cannot test this and will not merge without testing*, then perhaps we
should close it rather than pretend it still has a chance.
*Which I think would be a bad idea.
In any case, I made the title specific enough so that this issue and patch
might
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Should the patch be turned into a PR or should this be closed?
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Larry answered on pydev.
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It appears so.
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I think we should first determine whether xvfb is required to get the segfault,
and second, where it fails.
Does
-m test.regrtest -v -m test_io test_idle
fail and fail in the same place, the 11th and last test run in the module? If
not, what about
xvfb
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I think (space) 'performance' would be a better label, as this is strictly an
implementation improvement, not a language change. But we often (usually?
sometimes?) limit performance improvements to the 'next version' so we have the
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An exception is not a crash. An intended exception is not even a bug. A bug
is a discrepancy between behavior and doc. In this case,
email.parser.Feedparser is imported from email.feedparser. Its doc
https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/email.parser.html
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What you can do is report to pip and ansible-lint that there is a bug somewhere
in one of the two packages, or try to figure out which and report it to one of
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On MacOS, 3.7.0 is compiled for and the installer loads tcl/tk 8.6.8. The same
is true for the 3.6.6 64-bit installer. Do tkinter and multiprocessing work
together better with these installations?
I want to consider using multiprocessing and pipes instead
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#33111 claims that importing tkinter is enough to hang multiprocessing on MacOS
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The Library Reference 'Built-in Functions' chapter includes build-in classes
because classes are functions in the sense of being callable with arguments and
returning objects. A proposal to change the name to Built-in Functions and
Classes wa
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I was uncertain from Ethan's post what does work best. "endless errors with
both 'spawn", "Only 'fork' works...but without graphics", "method='spawn'and
... does work". Do the 1st and 3rd se
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I was forgetting that this is a Python, not CPython doc. So I agree to not tag
the iterator classes as such. For all I know, PyPy might use (compiled?)
generator functions. And if we were to allow use of Cython, say, for CPython,
we might try that.
How
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SO user abarnert, who I presume is bpo abarnert (Andrew Barnert) claims that
"Create a new dictionary. The dict object is the dictionary class." sounds a
bit like dict returns the dictionary class. It is different from "Return a new
set ob
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Ronald Oussoren> I can provide a patch, but that will likely be during
EuroPython as I’m currently taking a roundabout route towards Edinburgh.
Can you add a test of the procedure you document for using _tkinter with
multiprocess
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type: enhancement
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New changeset 97c079c19a83881c88b56b95c545207f9ab51f6e by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch '3.7':
bpo-34162: idlelib/NEWS.txt entries to 2018-7-20 (GH-8345) (GH-8347)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/97c079c19a83881c88b56b95c54520
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New changeset 917696242b2d1c7cf4cba660fa6a29c30667e6da by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch '3.6':
[3.6] bpo-34162: idlelib/NEWS.txt entries to 2018-7-20 (GH-8345) (GH-8348)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/917696242b2d1c7cf4cba660fa6a29
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Follow-up to #30928. First patch has to be backported by hand to adjust
headers for each version. After that, 2 blanks after uniform length separator
allows auto backports, except for further version-specific header changes or
code patches
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I will write a PR only touching the collection class entries.
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To investigate your claim about closing sys.stdin, I ran the following on
Windows 10, mostly with 3.7.0, in both the console and IDLE, using various exit
methods.
import code
import sys
for i in range(2):
try:
code.InteractiveConsole().interact
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Yes. 0 things, (1/2 thing), 1 thing, (3/2 things), 2... things is the bugaboo
of formatting sentences with a number field. Raymond, will we accept a patch
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Yes, the test should be removed, commented out, skipped, or made to work,
depending on intentions. Test first is for private branches.
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In 2.x, map(None, 'abc', 'zyz') == [('a', 'z'), ('b', 'y'), ('c', 'z')], but
with the addition of zip, so that zip('abc', 'xyz') has the same result, we
dep
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FWIW, the nsmallest/largest key param was added Dec 2, 2004, before
keyword-only parameters.
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4901a1f267e9d632f85054ce8b21ff23bff305e1
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By documentation, you mean the doc string for each widget, which is the basis
for the help(widget) response. I checked that there do not seem to be any
other issues open for the docstrings. Go ahead. Use
https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/contents.htm
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The 'roughly equivalent' Python code is real code that really runs, and in that
sense not pseudocode. itertools is coded in C, which allows optional args with
no default. To have optional args when coding in Python, either a default is
nee
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There is an important difference between a program saying 'I am done executing'
and a user saying 'I am done with the interactive session'. This is especially
true in an IDE where 'session' can include many editing and sh
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We don't normally backport an exception message change unless its content, as
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I did several more experiments to reproduce the reported problems and narrow
down when they occur. (Where I say 3.6.3 below, I actually tested 2.7.15
and/or 3.5.4 and assume same behavior until fix for 3.6.4.)
>>> a=1
>>> a
1 # no extra
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On idledev thread "Mac IDLE 3.7.0 freezes when accessing Preferences", Walter
Schnyder reported something similar. Combining two posts:
"using python.org Python 3.7.0 (v3.7.0:1bf9cc5093, Jun 26 2018, 23:26:24)
[Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on
New submission from Terry J. Reedy :
In #34055, Raymond said "tool tips no longer display on the newest mac builds".
On idledev, Walter S reported the same using 64-bit python.org "Python 3.7.0
(v3.7.0:1bf9cc5093, Jun 26 2018, 23:26:24) [Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on
darw
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In IDLE, Run Module, F5, is a shortcut, in a sense, for saving the file to
filename, switching to a terminal or console window, such as Command Prompt on
Windows, and entering 'python -i filename'. The -i means 'switch it
interactive mode af
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Again, that RESTART line is NOT an error. IDLE's prompt is not displayed until
your program is completely done. It initially pauses on the second line 'check
= input()', waiting for user input.
Start with a one-line file:
print('Hel
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Two more pieces of evidence that there is a problem with tkinter/tk8.6 on Mac.
On #34120, Vlad T. confirmed the misbehavior on 3.5 compiled for 8.6. #34281
reports another problem with an editor subwindow on 3.7 Mac.
There are now 4 issues about some IDLE
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I suspect that this results from a problem with the new tkinter/tcl/tk8.6
delivered with 3.7. See #34275.
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Thanks. This is evidence for my suspicion that this results from a problem
with the new tkinter/tcl/tk8.6 delivered with 3.7. See #34275.
PS: when replying by email, please delete the quote, which is redundant with
the post on the web page
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Re-reading, I notice this from Tal: "With Python 3.6.5 on OSX, I'm seeing all
of the issues ...". 3.6.5 was released 2018 March 28, *before* we revised
editor scrolling in May. What tk version? Was the new 8.6 compile even
ava
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After doing some experiments, I decided that this is the same issue with a
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
With 64 bit 3.7.0, I verified multiple problems. Calltips do not display
either automatically or manually with ^B or menu selection. I closed #34281 in
favor of #34120 and will report there and on #34047
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I closed #34281 as a duplicate of this. Eric Martin said "After entering a
line number, clicking OK brings to the foreground and makes active the first
hidden window (in the simplest case where we have just one window for a .py
file and the Shell w
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After more experiments on Windows, the 'stuck' window -- active, no cursor,
only copy works -- is a read-only window. I looked at other windows.
Modal
Edit > Find (Command F)
Edit > Replace (Command R)
When closed, neither window is activ
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
3.7.0 on 10.13.6: Vertical cursor sticks at both ends. Sticking at the top
also is Tal's observation 1 above. I also verified dead zone under slider and
always down with 2-finger swipe, and that this is not normal Mac beh
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
IDLE currently uses tooltips only for calltips describing a function's call
signature. Within Lib/idlelib:
calltip.py (renamed from calltips.py after the 3.7.0/3.6.6 release) has the
logic for when to raise one and its content.
calltip_w.py (which I i
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As with the tooltip modules (see #34275, msg322824), the dialog modules all
have run-when-main test functions. Unittests are also run, before the
human-verified test.
python3 -m idlelib.searchbases fails in that the driver-box is not activated
(lighted
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On 10.13.6 with 3.7.0, 'python3 -m idlelib.configdialog' in bash terminal runs
configdialog unittests and brings up a human-verified test (htest) driver box
with a ttk scrollbar whose slider does not stick. I has a dead zone beneath or
above, bu
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Thank you! Adding update worked for calltip_w. Adding update to tooltip and
copying
tw.lift() # work around bug in Tk 8.5.18+ (issue #24570)
from calltip worked for tooltip. (It seems the bug is still present. ;-) I
will either patch these files
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Moving the scrollwheel in either direction scrolls down, so I have to use the
scrollbar once stuck on the bottom of the file. (The Macbook has no PageUp
key.) For me, this is the most obnoxious bug. Tomorrow, I will add prints to
the scroll event
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The tkinter doc could use a section on 'OS-tk peculiarities and interactions'
;-). Anyway, thanks again. Some of the 'Windows peculiarities' I noted above,
where the test behaved better on Mac, may be due to the absence of calls that
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I wrote the following justification for adding grab_release while Tal was
revising his PR to make the change. I will look at the PR now and test on
Windows.
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Vlad, I was wondering about modality. Properly de-modalizing a dialog requires
more than just
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Removing 2.7 was unintended, from simultaneous editing. This is one of the
exceptional cases where a backport is worth the risk (which seems here
extremely low). I will remove it from the PR because auto backport will fail
because of file renames, in
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I presume then that you tested PR8603 without opening an editor (which is
certainly possible).
10.13.6 was released in the last month.
PCBuild/build.bat -e downloads missing external dependency source code into
externals/ and then compiles it into
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Given that Steve has not found anything useful in the logs, I agree. In any
case, the 3.7.0a4 installer has be superceded by multiple installers, including
finally, 3.7.0. Anyone wanting 3.7 now should use that (and report problems
with the same).
By
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Kevin, more tk mac issues.
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A quick follow-up commit can happen if one uses the web editor to edit more
than one file.
Editing a news file in Misc/News/next should not trigger any of the normal
tests, only a blurb check if there is such.
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How about if we add "The file is opened and then closed." before "The optional
parameters have the same meaning as in open()."
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I verified for my machine also that adding .update_idletasks(), as in
calltips_2-2.diff works for my 3.7.0 installation. I will assume until someone
says otherwise that this is generally sufficient.
I am preparing a PR with the patch and will separately
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