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"""
In Python-3.7.0b5 we can find at the end of html/parser.py:
def unescape(self, s):
warnings.warn('The unescape method is deprecated and will be removed '
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Steve, I would like to add the SetProcessDpiAwareness(1) call to IDLE tomorrow,
for 3.7.0 and 3.6.6. Do I need to make it an avoidable option? Can it hurt
people on some machines? It seems to me that if tk is doing dpi scaling, then
it should always be
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Master issue for future IDLE entries in Doc/whatsnew/3.6.rst. This doc has a
section 'Improved Modules' with a subsection 'idlelib and IDLE' with
subsubsections 'New in 3.6.z:'. This issue starts with 3.6.6.
It will close
New submission from Terry J. Reedy :
Following #33820, master issue for future IDLE entries in Doc/whatsnew/3.7.rst.
This doc has a section 'Improved Modules' with a subsection 'idlelib and
IDLE'. The initial unlabeled subsubsection includes important enhancements
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Following #33821, master issue for IDLE entries in Doc/whatsnew/3.8.rst. This
doc has a section 'Improved Modules' with a subsection 'idlelib and IDLE'. The
initial unlabeled subsubsection includes important enhancements to IDLE since
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New changeset e226eb71575ad22a6779b02941377665831cfff2 by Terry Jan Reedy in
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/e226eb71575ad22a6779b0294
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/222f7f40339238b3d2c803849
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New changeset 820c53ac612e9c4b3cb3e831537a15d5e953bbc0 by Terry Jan Reedy in
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/820c53ac612e9c4b3cb3e8315
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New changeset af4b0130d44bf8a1ff4f7b46195d1dc79add444a by Terry Jan Reedy in
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bpo-33610: Update IDLE Code Context doc entry (GH-7597)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/af4b0130d44bf8a1ff4f7b46195d1d
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General Update: We have done 1, 3, 7, 8, 9, 11, 17, 21. Very nice. A
re-organized list of the remainder (with old numbers).
Docs:
D1: idle.rst subsection on Code Context (19, see #33642).
D2: What's New in 3.6.6 and 3.7.0 (20).
Menu
M1: put Code Co
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AFAIK, the big new feature of tcl/tk 9.0 is intended to be full unicode
support. We can hope that 9.0 appears in time to be included in the 3.8
installers.
Until then, I think filenames, user program output, and clipboard content
should be checked for the
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Tal, welcome back to Python and IDLE development. 3.5 only gets security
fixes.
Please post here a draft doc paragraph. Before reading the code in detail, I
will pull it into my repository and try to test it as a 'naive user' who has
only
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Last fall, we converted built-in 'extensions' to regular features. I am
reluctant to add new 'extensions'. But I can review the patch as an extension
before we worry about this.
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New changeset 800415e3df69f494afe9f95a8563ce17609fe1da by Terry Jan Reedy in
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bpo-33656: On Windows, add API call saying that tk scales for DPI (GH-7137)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/800415e3df69f494afe9f95a8563ce
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bpo-33656: Add entry to What's New 3.7. (GH-7638)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8a05f559ce5064df68c8d4ebd
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Thanks everyone for the help. I think this is the right patch, but as with
many IDLE patches, it is hard to be sure until it is in use. At least there is
no question here of tk Windows-Linux-MacOS differences. I checked that the Win
7 buildbots are OK
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Reopening, temporarily, to add change requested by Eryk Sun after the merge.
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Since this is the sort of addition that I want to test and evaluate in extended
use before release, this is a good time to revive this. 3.6.6rc1 and 3.7.0rc1
are due tonight. 3.6.7 and 3.7.1 will be open for patches by tomorrow.
I opened #33839 to redoing
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unused. But it is needed, with changes, for squeezer (#1529353). So I would
like to see if we can make an improved Tooltip class that can be used or
subclassed by both.
The
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Since there should be time before .rcs are cut, I changed the idlelib NEWS.txt
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Cheryl, if you have time to try out PR 7626, I am curious what you think, as a
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bpo-33656: Mention color in idlelib/NEWS.txt entry. (#7646)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4b704f29f5a0b6f6d7bd67468ed004
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bpo-33656: Mention color in idlelib/NEWS.txt entry. (GH-7646) (GH-7647)
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I confirmed that IDLE did not import ctypes before this issue. Serhiy, I
presume that the new code can be skipped, you are suggesting replacing
import ctypes
with
try:
import ctypes
except ImportError:
pass # The ctypes-using fix is not
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I just ran the 3.7.0rc1 installer and here is no option to omit ctypes.
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The fix for IDLE on Windows made it into 3.6.6rc1 and 3.7.0rc1.
Changing the python.exe and pythonw.exe default dpi settings is a possible
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I would rather leave this open for the moment as an information resource. I
wrote query.py with a base class and subclasses to standardize asking users for
input. So some of the patch may be obsolete, but it does have a catalog of
popup uses.
The patch
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Thanks, Cheryl, very helpful. I have since played around with the patch.
Some context first. I want to make improving Shell a major focus for a while.
Part of that is handling problematic output. One solution is to remove it.
For instance, if I enter a
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11. Right click should bring up a custom context menu. It can have 'cut'
(delete), 'copy' (to clipboard, eliminating middle click need), 'edit' (IDLE
editor if it seems ok), 'view' (ditto for TextView).
Is there
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3. It is idlelib's TextView, not tkTextView. If it is not 'good enough', we
might improve it.
5. Look at former extensions, like codecontext.py, corresponding parts of
editor.py. The key thing for immediate effect is the class reload metho
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Create test_module from new template.py.
Add 'module' to docstring and import.
Check other minimal imports.
Create instance of each class, with requires('gui') if needed.
Add initial c
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Real use case for after_info() (with not arg): #33855 is about minimally
testing all IDLE modules. At least import the module and create class
instances when easily possible. For test_editor, I started with
def test_init(self): # Temporary
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Python++, when you respond by email, rather than on the web form, delete the
message you are responding to. It is already present on the web page and
should not be repeated.
I unlinked msg319278 because it uselessly repeats the same message that it
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It is unclear what problem this issue is meant to serve. If the reference
manual uses 'magic method', I think it should be changed. Special method names
are obvious by their form and need not and should not be labelled. I think doc
policy iss
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This is definitely an oversight to be corrected. Index entries for the other
binary arithmetic operators point to the table at
https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#numeric-types-int-float-complex
But @ is not in that table since number @ number is
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New changeset 4fddd4e4069aad9efad999d8d9ce3cd9fb523a5c by Terry Jan Reedy
(Andrés Delfino) in branch 'master':
bpo-33852: Remove misplaced parentheses around 'list'. (GH-7672)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4fddd4e4069aad9efad9
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Fred, did you intend to delete people from nosy?
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New changeset 184e8ed1eeda3ba869755ff37374dd86f332f30d by Terry Jan Reedy
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[2.7] bpo-33852: Remove misplaced parentheses around 'list'. (GH-7672) (#7716)
https://github.com/p
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bpo-33847: Add '@' operator entry to index (GH-7669)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/695118600fecaa7b9563
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New changeset a9d0b34a5c5d4fdc12bba4f9c1e314e6e132cc65 by Terry Jan Reedy
(Andrés Delfino) in branch 'master':
bpo-33854: Add PEP 461 title to 'See also' note (GH-7688)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a9d0b34a5c5d4fdc12bb
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Doc fixes are routinely backported, when valid, at least within 3.x. If this
was not, I could either be intention or accident. If the change in master was
with a github PR, maybe someone just forgot the backport label.
Is the change in 3.7? Can either of
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New changeset ce1bda774ee28fcdc8966e4158ed42b1246a29d0 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
bpo-33854: Add PEP 461 title to 'See also' note (GH-7688) (#7719)
https://github.com/p
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Islington (bot)) in branch '3.6':
bpo-33854: Add PEP 461 title to 'See also' note (GH-7688) (GH-7720)
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debugger and debugger_r: tests are subminimal because instantiating classes is
not trivial.
dynoption: skipped because I expect it will be replaced and deleted when I
review PR to do so.
editor: I discovered, or rediscovered, a new shutdown issue, with
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bpo-33855: Minimally test all IDLE modules. (GH-7689)
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I am going to accept Raymond's rejection of a general change. I will
reconsider the tkinter doc should I ever work on it.
For IDLE code, I have settled on 'from tkinter import Tk, Text, ..., perhaps
followed by 'from tkinter.ttk i
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[3.6] bpo-33855: Minimally test all IDLE modules. (GH-7689) (GH-7734)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/833b3d2dcc7043be20ac19f7821552
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I reran Dino's test.py on current master on Win10 and got
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "f:/dev/tem/recursion_crash.py", line 23, in
f()
File "f:/dev/tem/recursion_crash.py", line 18, in f
f()
File "
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is a tclerror in 8.5 and works in 8.6.
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Thanks!
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 18:53 Carol Willing wrote:
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> Hi Rick,
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> I'm closing this issue as not reproducible. Thanks for filing it and using
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There are now several official translations: see current doc pages, the bottom
of https://devguide.python.org/experts/, and
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0545/. According to the pep, discussion is
on doc-sig. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo
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Al did post to python-ideas, with a link to a prototype. I think a fair
summary is that core-developers had at least the same reluctance to be involve
with code translations as with doc translations. We rejected doing the latter
as part of cpython by
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Behavior has not changed. It is a legitimate doc issue for both tkinter and
turtle.
The turtle intro, https://docs.python.org/3/library/turtle.html#introduction,
currently 24.1.1. says nothing about the sidebar and image. I think there
should be a short
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I am closing and rejecting this as not worth the bother and "ain't gonna
happen" at things now stand.
The 'IDLE icons' are not IDLE icons. They are Python application icons which I
adapted for IDLE. The one on the Windows taskb
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I believe the following means 'No' and that you can close this.
f:\dev\27>python -m test.regrtest test___all__ test_tcl
Running Debug|Win32 interpreter...
Run tests sequentially
0:00:00 [1/2] test___all__
0:00:24 [2/2] test_tcl
A
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bpo-33856: Add "help" to the welcome message of IDLE (GH-7755)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/9d49f85064c388e2dddb
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Thanks for the clarification.
>>> help works
but is not in the sign-on message, even though it is by far the most important
item mentioned. I just merged to master.
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There will be more IDLE entries when features are added to maintenance
releases. See What's New 3.6 for examples, and PEP 434 for further
explanation. I prefer to have one issue for all patches to that se
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I agree with David about replacing `x' with 'x' instead of ``x``, so please
make this change. Do you know what ``x.y = v'' is supposed to mean?
David, do you want one PR with 139+ changes, or should we start with fewer?
Patrick, a
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What do you think of changing 'ToolTip' to 'Tooltip'? The me, the extra 'T' is
over-aggressive camel-casing that impedes rather than aids reading.
test_tooltip.py was missing the unittest invocation at the end, so I could
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As I mentioned elsewhere, I can a) imagine using this with dialogs to pop up
hints about the particular entry widget, and b) would like the popups to
respond keyboard (Tab) focus changes as well as mouse movement focus changes.
Looking at the config dialog
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master, and maybe backport from there, unless the PR never touches master.
I wonder if we should bring this up on pydev. Without discussion and
agreement, someone might object just because there are so many changes. Or
someone might say that they want the
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In my last comment above, I forgot that this issue is about *docstrings*. We
do not officially process docstrings with Sphinx, so there are no warnings to
be suppressed.
PEP 8, which covers style for the stdlib, refers to
https://www.python.org/dev/peps
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Are you talking about the python shell, run in a text console window, or IDLE's
GUI shell? The components you mark include both.
If the former, do you mean only on linux or all systems? You and Python are
more or less at the mercy of the console yo
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The way to clear an editor window at least on Windows is ^A (select all) and
delete, which can be any of BS (backspace) or DEL or ^X (Cut). The latter
'moves to the clipboard. In Shell, select all selects everything, but ^X
enters '^x',
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These issues are not as simple as you think. But anyway, clearing the shell in
#6143.
Shell is a modified editor. Currently, the arrows move the cursor around just
as in the editor. For multiline statements, this is essential, and even for
single-line
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ea3dc8029ab6a0f1ee6a8a72f1612d
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Thanks. I have presumed that Linux consoles are also line oriented, but
hesitated to say so without really knowing so.
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> AFAIK `name' is common writing of quotes in English texts
I don't remember ever seeing it before. It looks like a typo to me, and I am
sure it will to most readers. I think it should be corrected as if it
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RestructuredText, DocUtils, and Sphinx were developed independently, by people
other than the pydev/cpython group. (The proposal to include DocUtils in the
stdlib was rejected.) We converted to .rst for the Python documentation
sources files about a
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I agree with David. I would like the ugly markup changed independent of how
Sphinx treats it. I was thinking of changing the title to "Change obsolete tex
markup in stdlib docstrings". The intent of `word' was for people to see
balanced q
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Spinoffs:
change rstrip.RstripExtension to Rstrip
change stackviewer.StackBrowser to accept exception
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Change windows.py to window.py, in line with change of menu. Should be safer
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