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idlelib.tabbedpages.TabbedPageSet is a custom widget only used for the tabbed
config dialog. #30781 converted to using tkinter.ttk.Notebook. The latter has
proven to be an improvement and the former has no other use, nor would I
recommend its use. Time
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bpo-32100: Delete unneeded import in idlelib.pathbrowser. (#4626)
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PR-2706 and PR-2613 fixed one line in test_configdialog for this issue.
PR-2046, #30617 and PR-3238, #30781 are merged cross-references.
PR-3222 was closed in favor of PR-3220, #31287, merged.
PR-3592 completes highlights and keys coverage
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def good(): print('good')
root.after(1000, bad)
root.after(1500, good)
root.mainloop()
# Correctly gives this traceback and output:
Exception in Tkinter callback
Traceba
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#21961 ends with the entry I added for 3.4 and 3.5. 3.7 (and checking 3.6)
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Thanks. I am still puzzled why the nested within nested try-except did not
work as I expected, but I care more about fixing this. The result based on your
suggestion is better (to read, I think) than extra nesting that did work.
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Cheryl, thank you for reviving this, as it is still needed. A slightly revised
example better illustrates the claim in the doc revision about when __getattr__
is called.
class Foo(object):
def __init__(self):
self.foo = 1
self.data
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Before testing, let alone documenting, the status quo, I would like to be sure
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person, is responsible
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Thanks. I normally look at source in my local clone with an editor. I found
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After looking at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/base I can explain better why
'most base class' is wrong, and felt wrong to participants in the python-list
thread.
'Base' is actually two words. As a noun (or verb), it comes from Ancient
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How about "The starting base class of all types and classes other than itself."
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I want to add the try-except here and in the few other places where a method is
temporarily masked. One failure causing another strikes me a test code bug.
I would like to hold off on adding 'hover', as it now seems to have been an
idiosyn
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I think generically changing 'iterable' to 'iterable/unpackable' is wrong and
would engender more confusion than at present. Most uses of iteration have
nothing to do with multiple assignment target unpacking. Some minimal examples
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/9f74deba784fc8781d13ed564f69c02ed7c331bb
merged by Warsaw (last March). It removed the whole phrase, "Instead of the
normal %-based substitutions," I think the other changes would be more worth
b
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Your posted code and much else runs fine for me with 2.7.14 on Win 10. Millions
of lines of legal Python code run on perhaps a million machines aroung the
world. Except possibly for your particular machine, your conclusion is wrong.
>From the traceback,
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Thanks, Serhiy, for the C implementation, and Eric for reviewing it. I would
add 'non-iterable', to get "cannot unpack non-iterable int object", to tell
people what is needed instead. I do t
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In English, 'adjective noun' does not necessarily imply the existence of
'not-adjective' nouns, and the adjective may serve as a reminder or reason.
For instance, "This job is too dangerous for mortal humans!"
In the curren
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I retested and iter(ob) (1) apparently raises 'not iterable' only when it can
find neither __iter__ nor __getitem__. It (2) raises 'non-iterator', as above,
when it finds __iter__, calls its, and get a non-iterator. (3) Exceptions in
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'int' is a standin for non-iterable and easy to type.
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Yes, in the code for the the unpack message test, the specific non-iterable is
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I am 99.99% sure that this is not an IDLE issue. IDLE submits your code to
Python to be exec-ed. The exception comes from Python. You should get the
same exception (though with a different fake file name) if you ran the same
code directly with Python
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pyclbr does a linear scan of a file and returns a dict, and Class objects have
a dict of children. For objects in the file being scanned, insertion order is
the same as line number order. idlelib.browser.transform children filters out
objects not in the
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(f0, C0) is the correct insertion and line number order for the dict that would
be returned by pyclbr for a fleshed-out file. After 'sorted' is removed, the
mock must imitate that.
One could argue that previously, and even now for 3.6, the initial
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IDLE uses Python's tcl/tk interface module, called 'tkinter'. Tcl is a
separate language and tk is its graphical user interface. This is most likely
the problem. Did you follow the advice at
https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/
to
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Since there is no evident CPython bug, I am closing this. If CPython gets a
bogus encoding for the std streams, it cannot output a normal traceback on
sys.stderr.
>From StackOverflow: "TensorFlow is an open source library for machine learning
>
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The tkinter docs currently omit much, but refer one to, among other places,
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/web/index.html, which has a page
with images and names.
http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/web/cursors.html
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Another duplicate: #32411, MacOS 10.3.1, user apparently cannot write to home
dir. Starting IDLE in terminal results in
Warning: unable to create user config directory
/Users/Steve Margetts/.idlerc
Check path and permissions.
Exiting
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Ned diagnosed #32447 as likely due to the space in the user name. What matters
for this issue is that a) someone can do that and b) IDLE likely could continue
running anyway. There might then be problems with saving files from the
editor, so any warning
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The Mac issue is the inability to add .xyz directories to the home directory.
You can test a fix by entering 'mkdir .idlerc' at the terminal prompt.
The IDLE issue is that IDLE quits when it cannot create .idlerc. In this
respect, this is a du
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Today, at least, python -m test -v test_httpservers does not hang for me on
any of 3.5, 3.6, or 3.7, installed or repository debug. I don't know if the
offending test was just disabled or somehow
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I agree that a better message would be nice. But compiling 'a.b[c]' breaks the
expression apart into the equivalent of 't=a.b; t[c]', where 't' is an
anonymous reference, so as David notes, there is no 'name' left to
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'ndots' is an internal name in the import-from branch of the import statement
handler. It seems reasonable in that context. 'level' is part of the public
api for the ImportFrom node class, and cannot be changed as such. It is also
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After fresh update and debug rebuild on master(3.7), with Win10 patched last
night, I got
==
FAIL: test_call_later (test.test_asyncio.test_events.ProactorEventLoopTests
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I think this should have been first floated on python-ideas list. One
objection is the same as for eliminating tail calls in general: it collapses
tracebacks.
def g1():
yield from g2()
def g2():
yield 1/0
for i in g1(): pass
Traceback (most recent
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Pox, please retest with either 3.6.4 or 3.7.0a3 (or .0a4 when released, soon).
Both were released after the merge that should fix this.
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I expected that this would be needed eventually. Any particular reason why now?
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A new option would (maybe) apply to saving the shell also. (Something to
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icc-find.patch (and a 2nd version) has been uploaded to #28584 also. I unlinked
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For me, 3.6.5 IDLE has the same Python app icon (white notebook page with
blue/yellow snakes) as always. But I upgraded from 3.6.4, etc, so my Win10
machine already had the icon.
Filip, which Windows (in case it makes a difference)? Which *exact* installer
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After this is merged, we should immediately add 'async' to the list of block
openers.
With complete tests, we can more confidently cleanup the code a bit, as well as
change behavior. The fourth field of info tuples, block keyword, is never used
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I am just going to add 'async' to BLOCKOPENERS. I don't think this needs a
particular test, as most of the openers are not used in the new tests added by
#32831. We could eventually expand the sample to have one of each opener.
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Because BLOCKOPENERS is sufficiently distant from the changes for this issue, I
will add 'async' now, without tests, in #33564.
Some of my comments for this issue are ideas for future changes in
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bpo-33564: Add async to IDLE's code context block openers. (GH-6960)
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I have also gotten test_async errors on AppVeyor and MSTS Windows.
ERROR: test__sock_sendfile_native_failure
(test.test_asyncio.test_base_events.BaseLoopSockSendfileTests)
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I just got the two broken pipe error on Travis.
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The Travis retest (for 3.7 backport) just failed with the same errors. Why
can't we disable this tests. It now takes hours to do a merge with two
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Responses to the following might help anyone who works on this.
1. Is the relative performance only an issue on 2.7 and not 3.6+?
2. What are the 'recent issues here'? What is different about your example
code.
3. We prefer plain text .py files t
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With Tim's addition
>>> from fractions import Fraction as F
>>> from decimal import Decimal as D
>>> s = {0, 1, 0.0, 1.0, F(0,1), F(1, 1), D(0), D(1), False, True}
>>> s
{0, 1}
I think we should consider moving the
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The only thing special about functions defined with lambda expressions rather
than def statements is the generic name attribute '' instead of a
specific name. PEP8 intentionally and properly discourages 'name = lambda ...'
as i
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The last three posts have convinced me that 'efficient bit operations', not
tied to the int type, are worth exploring, without immediate restriction to a
particular API. I can see that micropython is a significant ne
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bpo-32831: IDLE: Add docstrings and tests for codecontext (GH-5638)
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