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This affects the popup tool tip in IDLE also. Raymond, am I correct in
thinking that the labels appearing in dialogs (Preferences, Search) still work?
A IDLE tool tip is a Toplevel. Its parent is a Text widget. It contains a
non-blank Label widget. It is
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#33429, now closed, is Raymond's report about IDLE tooltips not working in
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When I closed the main thread by clicking [x], thus destroying root, both event
threads raised instead of hanging. So my experiment involved calling
root.destroy instead of setting running to False. The better result when
running under IDLE might be due to
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TkinterCrash2-2. Serhiy's original thereof fails for me on 2.7.15. I will put
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This issue is effectively a re-opening and continuation of #11077.
TkinterCrash2(3)-2.py are altered versions of Serhiy's file of the same name on
the old issue. (Ivan, you really should have said all this at the beginning of
this issue.)
Serhiy
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Without thread support, event generation from multiple threads fails
immediately. I tried an experiment with callback scheduling. It seems to work
-- almost.
thread_event.py runs on 2.7 with non-t tcl. It modifies TkinterHandlres32.py
by replacing
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In re-verifying #27675, the color bug seems to be gone. The completion bug is
still here, at least on Windows.
It would be good to sort the issues by whether they appear to affect
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I believe the report in August 2016 was about the time of the preliminary.0a4
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changed after.
I should have been more detailed and accurate is what I wrote. In paragraph 2,
I said
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Testing undocumented issue.message reference I remember seeing somewhere:
#11077.msg183774, #11077.183774
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Library Reference Chapter 25, Graphical User Interfaces with Tk, covers tinter,
some of its subpackages, and IDLE. The introduction,
https://docs.python.org/3/library/tk.html states "the internal module _tkinter
provi
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In the message above, I asked "why this code runs in 3.x but eventually fails
in 2.x?". The answer is almost certainly that I used 3.5 with tk 8.6 compiled
*with* thread support and 2.7 with tk 8.5 compiled without thread support.
Serhiy, if
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The information missing from this issue is that tcl and tk can be compiled
without and with thread support, and that the latter became default in 8.6,
which is included with recent 3.x versions. Hence the launch example, as
posted on #33257, works for me in
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I opened #33479 Document tkinter and threads, as a spinoff of both this issue
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I changes the import to theading instead of thread and the start line to
threading.Thread(target=example)
On 3.7 with tcl/tk 8.6 with thread support, I see the gui when mainloop is
called in the thread, and then the >>> prompt appears. On 2.
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Does IDLE now work on your HiDPI screen without the patch? or does it not work
even with the patch?
I just got a 2.7 worktree working with Python built. 2.7.15+ comes with 8.5.19
instead of 8.5.15. IDLE runs as I expect and windows look normal, as with 3
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fork). I built Python with tcl/tk 8.5.15. Whoops, my fork had 2.7 at 2.7.13+.
Fetch upstream, merge upstream/2.7, and rebuild. I noticed that tcl/tk 8.5.19
was downloaded. But
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My inclination, then, is to close this issue and PR until there is a
demonstrated need for change and a test machine to verify the fix for 2.7 and
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The official line is the claim in the docs that tkinter *is* threadsafe,
repeated by Martin on at least one issue. See the first paragraph above.
Therein lies the problem.
A reason to not just reverse the claim is that it is, at least for practical
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This is out-of-date for 3.5 and almost so for 3.6 and not an issue for 3.7.
The PR has been closed. And I agree with Raymond that keywords.py should not
anticipate the future. All this is aside from the auto-generation issue.
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Mark, would you review or at least comment on PR 6444? Your comments in
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bpo-30928: Update idlelib/NEWS.txt to 2018-05-14. (#6873)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/038b21f2caaed0f02fee524277cc61
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bpo-30928: update idlelib/NEWS.txt for 3.6. (#6888)
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New changeset 5b9299d8c72aeadccadd77e4b8132094ba9a1f96 by Terry Jan Reedy
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bpo-30085: Improve documentation for operator (#1171)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/5b9299d8c72aeadccadd77e4b81320
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I agree that the tutorial For section needs be updated to include
non-sequences. A dict example will help with that.
I agree that the unrealistic insert mis-directs attention and like Raymond's
replacement. ['users.copy()' should be
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New changeset d38caf68bb417232fb0ccecb5558d7d0ca4a9507 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
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[3.6] bpo-30085: Improve documentation for operator (GH-1171) (#3736)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Having fixed the nested functions and classes issue, and thought some more, I
have two other concerns with adding signatures in the browser, and a different
solution.
1. Time: When requested, the browser window comes up immediately with the
module node
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A year or so ago, I asked people on python-list who could to run the gui tests
on their linux boxes and report. About 6 did and with one possible exception,
and not that reported here, everyone reported success. So, unless someone can
report otherwise, I
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As with removing icons (#25090), moving 'highlight line in editor' from double
click to single click is not trivial. Single click behavior is baked into
tree. TreeNode. TreeItems can only override or augment double-click behavior.
I am deferrin
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Two concrete reasons to make the conversion: two issues are stymied by current
tree.TreeNode.
1. #25090 tree.TreeNode requires an icon for every line. Hence functions and
classes get python file and director icons and they are difficult to remove.
By
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The main issue for conversion is expanding nodes. tree.py does not define a
widget class. Rather, is uses a used a canvas and places images and text
thereupon. The latter is done with instances of TreeNode. Each instance
thereof is initialized with an
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jcr: 3.5 only gets security fixes. If this issue does not apply to 3.6 or 3.7,
this should be closed. When core developers (snake after name) change the
headers, you should assume that they know what they are doing and not change
them back
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This issue is more likely to get attention if there is a difference in 3.6, or
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An option for deferred imports would be to leave a comment at the top where the
import would otherwise be. Example:
# import types, weakref # Deferred to single_dispatch()
This accomplishes the PEP8 purpose of making all dependencies of the module
visible
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reidfaiv: bpo issues are for patching cypthon, including the stdlib and docs.
Debugging help should be requested on other forums, such as python-list or
stackoverflow.
On the other hand, segfaults in pure python code that uses *current* python and
does not
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In closing #15927, R. David Murray said "Although this is clearly a bug fix, it
also represents a behavior change that could cause a working program to fail.
I have therefore only applied it to 3.4, but I'm open to arguments that it
should be
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Consistency between bytes and strings is not much of a concern here, or the
change would have been make for bytes when it was made for strings. I would
not approve the request without knowing who chose not to and why.
I think an example like
t
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Tkinter wraps the tcl/tk gui framework. The file dialogs and messageboxes are
provided by tk. When possible, the file dialogs utilize the native OS file
dialogs. The localization is done the by the OS. If the messageboxes are
localized, then I presume the
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I would make such new paremeters keyword-only.
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This issue was 'reopened' by #31590.
I can understand inconsistency as a 'design bug', but design bugs are not code
bugs, and fixing a design bugs is an enhancement issue, not a behavior issue.
It is not clear to me why, with t
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I explained on #15927 why I currently see it as an enhancement issue, and
therefore not appropriate to be backported. In fact, based on the doc, I am
puzzled why the line terminator was being escaped
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Menu item 'Module Browser' invokes '<>', which calls
Editor_Window.open_module_browser. If the window is an actual editor, its path
is used; otherwise open_module is called. In either case, ModuleBrowser is
called with flist and
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(#3841)
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bpo-31460: Simplify the API of IDLE's Module Browser. (#3842)
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This tracker is for issues about improving future cpython releases on
python.org. Questions about using current python go to other forums, such as
python-list. You can also use python-list via the news.gmane.org newsgroup
mirror gmane.comp.python.general
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Python Setup and Usage, 3.3.1. Excursus: Setting environment variables
https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html#excursus-setting-environment-variables
The word 'excursus' is so rare and archaic that this is my first encounter with
it. Could
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This is pretty useless on Windows because you are using a clock with 15-16
milli (not micro) second resolution on Windows. Before Victor introduced
time.perf_counter, with decent behavior on all systems, timeit used different
time module functions on
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Abdullah, in the future, please upload or post runnable Python code, not an
image. Output can be copied into a message. If you think IDLE is doing
something wrong, test by running the code directly with Python. If your file
is test.py, enter the following
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After reading the doc entry for SimpleNamespace, I see running
'SimpleNamespace(**{0:0})' as a bug because doing so results in an object than
contradicts the doc.
1. "A simple object subclass that provides attribute access to its namespace
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pythoninfo seems like the right place. It is publicly readable. We just
reserved the right to change it in any release as needed. (This actually is
useful to other users also as long as they know.) #15037 was originally filed
for 3.4 and is currently
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On Windows 10 Education, ran:
ipython
Python 3.6.3 (v3.6.3:2c5fed8, Oct 3 2017, 17:26:49) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]
Type 'copyright', 'credits' or 'license' for more information
IPython 6.2.1 -- An enhanced Interactive Python.
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Mmm... right now I cannot reproduce at all, both in iPython and in python.
Will continue to try.
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I decided to do the needed rearrangement of frames in this issue, leaving
revision of widgets other than the sample to #24776.
PR3960 initially puts the following in the sample box. I believe it should
cover most Python users.
AaBbCcDdEeFfGgHhIiJj
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Config dialog Font tab has a sample box. It currently only contains Ascii
chars. #13802 will add characters from extended latin1 and several other
character sets. But we cannot show everything. Hence a spinoff proposal: let
users augment the sample
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I pushed new commits to the PR that changed the Korean, Japanese, and Indian
samples and the help message.
Korea: The line is now the first 10 chars of Dong-hee Na's suggestion. Thank
you for helping (and Louie for the cc).
Japan: The line is no
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Victor, what is your opinion of running 'from test import autotest' in a
standard python shell window, opened from an icon, as opposed to IDLE's shell?
> many tests fail just because of IDLE.
We cannot know what to blame on IDLE withou
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F:\dev\3x\lib\asyncio\sslproto.py:330: ResourceWarning: unclosed transport
source=self)
test_code_module - multiple errors
test test_importlib failed -- Traceback (most recent call last):
File "F:\dev\3x\lib
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sys.exit. test.autotest consists of
from test.libregrtest import main
main()
The main call should be wrapped with try:...except sys.exit: pass
The output also has this variance
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When I import autotest in IDLE's shell, test_code_module fails, test_importlib
and test_warnings fail, as without IDLE, and test_gc and test_logging are new
failures. (Results are easy to see because SystemExit is caught and ignored.)
test test_gc f
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After starting Python from a command line instead of an icon, importing/running
autotest results in the same three failures.
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On Win10, installed 3.5.4, 3.6.3, 3.7.1a1 all raise SystemError.
3.6 and 3.7 repository debug builds raise AssertionError and Windows crash box.
After the patch, a silent crash.
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I agree that we should be consistent -- with the current standard definition --
with the changes suggested above. Heinrich, can you, and do you want to,
submit a patch? If so, please also sign the contributor agreement. See
https://www.python.org/psf
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Nikhil, I am closing this for now because I am at least 85% sure David is
right. To get any help, you need to reduce your code to the minimum needed to
produce the symptoms and then include that with any question. You would be
told the same on
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It has been some time since literal_eval literally only evaluated literals.
'constant_eval' might be a better name now, with the proviso of 'safely, in
reasonable time'.
>>> from ast import literal_eval as le
>>> le(&
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The formatting part of PEP 515 was implemented in #27080. Chris Angelico's
initial patch https://bugs.python.org/file44152/underscores_decimal_only.patch
was, as the name says, for decimal only, and added "or '_' " to the error
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Sorry, all reproduction attempts failed, both in plain Python and in
iPython.
I guess you can close this for now.
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Just one more issue: since it happened before I found out that the "turtle"
package already has the pre-defined short version of commands, such as
"fd()", "lt()", etc., the crashed session included four function
definitions, for
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In the last few months, configdialog has been refactored to have a class for
each settings tab. This makes it easier to revise and add new options, such as
'menu language'.
With this done, the IDLE features implemented as (optional) extensions we
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Ned> IDLE uses some Tk-supplied default menus and menu items
On Windows and *nix, the visible menu labels all come from IDLE. I don't yet
understand what is going on with Mac menus. Some menu items call the tk file
dialog, and the config highl
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As I reported on related #31761, importing autotest on Windows 10 has 3 errors
with Python's shell and 4 with IDLE's, with two of those the same as the python
shell failures.
IDLE can be detected in at least two ways.
>>> import sy
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