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Part of my reason for closing is that we have an index entry "iskeyword() (in
module keyword)" to help anyone who tries the function as a method. But I am
reopening for 2 reasons:
1. I think the following is a better improvement that reads bett
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Debating historical design decisions that effectively cannot be changed is off
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this much. The s.isxyz questions are answered by examining the characters and
codepoints in s
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George, your third sentence is missing a closing ')' somewhere. In the first
part, I believe you meant that the user is able to create a bad file by
directly writing other content or calling cf.write more than once. I don't get
the part a
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As I posted above, keywork.iskeyword already has a bizarrely incorrect
docstring, so how can there be a performance impact? And why single out such a
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Separate PRs for doc and code changes will be needed anyway if the code change
is restricted to 3.8.
To me, changing keyword.iskeyword.__doc__ from the irrelevant Python tautology
'x.__contains__(y) <==> y in x.' to something that says what t
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I cannot do anything from this bare description, as I cannot think of any
reason why stepping should introduce an error. It sounds like there are two
files involved. Try to reduce them to the minimum needed to reproduce the
issue and then upload
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I think the issues are slightly different. #12486 is about the awkwardness of
the API. This is about a false error after jumping through the hoops, which I
think Steve B did correctly.
Following the link, the Other_ID_Continue chars are
00B7
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Joshua opened #24194 as a duplicate of this because he could not reopen this.
I am leaving it open as the superseder for this as Serhiy has already added two
dependencies there, and because this seems to be a duplicate in turn of
#1693050 (which I will
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Whatever I may have said before, I favor supporting the Unicode standard for
\w, which is related to the standard for identifiers.
This is one of 2 issues about \w being defined too narrowly. I am somewhat
arbitrarily closing #1693050 as a duplicate of this
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Whatever I may have said before, I favor supporting the Unicode standard for
\w, which is related to the standard for identifiers.
This is one of 2 issues about \w being defined too narrowly. I am somewhat
arbitrarily closing this as a duplicate of #12731
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I closed #1693050 as a duplicate of #12731 (the /w issue). I left #9712 closed
and closed #32987 and marked both as duplicates of this.
In msg313814 of the latter, Serhiy indicates which start and continue
identifier characters are currently matched by \W
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tokenize name issue, already closed. I referenced Serhiy's analysis there and
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I repeated Julian's test with installed 3.7.0b2 on Windows 10 and there is no
crash when running either from a command line or from an IDLE editor. So
either the issue has been fixed since 3.6.2, or it is specific to some
undisclosed system or cla
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Our ttk doc, https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.ttk.html#item-options,
here copies the tk doc: "The list of values associated with the item." It
should say 'tuple or list', but that is a generic (and separate) issue of our
ttk
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implementation, for future releases. Questions about using python/cpython
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I think 'sequential numbers' would be slightly better than 'sequence numbers'.
To be, it better includes stepped and descending sequences. (Enough better
that I would be willing to do the PR and merge.) Otherwise, I think leave it
alo
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It is against Guido's general policy to add things not needed purely for
consistency. Unless there is a compelling use case, I think this should be
closed.
FHTM: I don't think Serhiy posts on SO, so you might consider adding his answer
to yours,
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I copied the three lines into a file, deleted '> ', added print('done'), and
saved. I ran the file, on Windows 10, with installed 2.7, 3.5, 3.6, and
repository 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8. No failures.
Adrien, please retest by copying what
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Thank you for the improved example. From Command Prompt, I now see
f:\dev\37>python -m trace -c f:/python/a/tem2.py
Running Debug|Win32 interpreter...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "f:\dev\37\lib\runpy.py", line 193, in _run_m
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Reviewing Serhiy's patch, I changed my mind from 6 years ago (msg164774). I
may have over-estimated the difficulty; in any case the code patch is written.
(Tests are still needed.) And the code is rather straightforward and readable.
Beyond that,
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This was initially reported in pydev thread "ttk.Treeview.insert() does not
allow to insert item with iid=0" on 2018/3/16. Igor, you should have mentioned
on the thread that you had opened a tracker issue in response. It was only
happenstance
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The examples in the multiprocessing doc all put all multiprocessing calls
within a "if __name__ == '__main__':" statement. I know that this is necessary
on Windows, but don't know if or when it helps on other OSes.
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Two of your 3 suggested alternatives could lead to bugs. To use your example:
python -m mainmodule.submodule.foobar -o -b
is a convenient alternative and abbreviation for
python .../somedir/mainmodule/submodule/foobar.py -o -b
The two invocations should give
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Peter, please include x.y.z version with reports (and upgrade first if possible
;-). This was apparently fixed in #25532 last year for current versions. With
3.6.4 and 3.7.0b2 I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "F:\Python\a\tem2.py",
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Please make a specific suggestion for a change in a specific location in the
current online version of a particular doc -- the one you wish had been there
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inspect.signature(functools.reduce) raises, so I presume you mean the header
for the reduce entry at
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functools.html#functools.reduce. The first
line of the docstring, functools.reduce.__doc__, also displayed by
help
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Ewa handles recording of CAs.
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Can you write a test case that raises the exception? Use .read_string to
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calls ._join_multiline_values.
I wonder if we could delete .before_read and replace its call with the value
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Lib\idlelib\colorizer.py, line 25, is:
stringprefix = r"(?i:\br|u|f|fr|rf|b|br|rb)?"
The r prefix, but only the r prefix, must be preceded by a non-word character.
On pydev thread "IDLE colorizer", MRAB noted: "The \b will apply
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The current test is part of the htest. The section
# All valid prefixes for unicode and byte strings should be colored
contains "ur'is invalid'". This should be moved to a new section with other
invalid combinations.
# Invalid c
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To see the visually verified test, run Lib/idlelib/colorizer as the main
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New changeset da58533ac67b01ce8f6466e6f03ff6b8b3bb04d5 by Terry Jan Reedy in
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bpo-33204: IDLE: consistently color invalid string prefixes (#6344)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/da58533ac67b01ce8f6466e6f03ff6
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Yes, still correct, as a keyword. Legal "x or''" is colored as "x"
"or" "''" . Legal "if'':" is colored as "if" "''"
":" ".
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New changeset 55966f3a0d5f1bf823bd22ce1abbde267b06552f by Terry Jan Reedy in
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bpo-33204: IDLE - revise and extend colorizer test. (GH-6347)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/55966f3a0d5f1bf823bd22ce1abbde
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My question about the idea is whether beginners would use this, or if it is the
sort of 'expert' feature that IDLE should avoid. I may ask on python-list for
more opinions.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49677886/python-idle-symbol-completio
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Vignesh: This issue tracker is for reporting bugs in the CPython interpreter.
Requests for help with problems with your code should go elsewhere, such as
pythonlist mail list or stackoverflow.com web site.
In this case, your problem is described in the
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We use 'crash' for, on Window, a process stopping either with no explanation or
a 'Your process has stopped box' from Windows.
In any case, PositionalList.py will not run without _DoublyLinkedBase.py, which
you did not upload.
The
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Nick and Raymond, I added both of you as nosy because, among other reasons, you
commented on the latest version of PEP575.
I agree that there is a bug in current CPython, in that the is* functions
should return, not raise, but I am not sure where is it, and
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[For future reference, if I were not closing this, I would ask the following:
Does 'on terminal mean that you started Python in interactive mode and then
entered lines in response to the '>>> prompt'? If so, did you start Python
fr
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The label has been changed. Senthil, go ahead and merge this.
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I believe I have seen this exact error message within the last few months, and
I found one example on SO.
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I would like python_coded_callable.__code__ to be the code object executed when
python_coded_callable is called, just as expected by the isxyz author(s). It
has to exist somewhere. Methods m and m3 both return 42 when called, and both
have the same code
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It is standard in the Python stdlib that mutation methods usually return None
and never echo an input argument. If one can pass a node to
element.removeAttributeNode(node), there is no need to echo it back. So I
suspect that the current behavior is
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How about adding a sentence to the end of the first paragraph.
glob.glob(pathname, *, recursive=False)
Return a possibly-empty list of path names that match pathname, which must
be a string containing a path specification. pathname can be either
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Barry, thank you for your first submission.
You propose to test numbers.Complex.__bool__
def __bool__(self):
"""True if self != 0. Called for bool(self)."""
return self != 0
by adding the following to
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The quoted line of code is from the main part of
tkinter.colorchooser,Chooser._fixresult:
r, g, b = widget.winfo_rgb(result)
return (r/256, g/256, b/256), str(result)
where
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I guess I was not clear enough that I will test on Windows after someone else
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I agree that anything that has the same FS-determined sorted or not behavior
should get the same note, for the same reason. Ben, can you test? Eryk, can
you enlighten us further?
PS: Ben, when responding by email, please delete the quote, as it is
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Big Stone: thank you for the clarification that IDLEX, and its patching of
idlelib, is not involved. WinPython is an independent augmented distribution.
Your suggestion about its IDLEX icon should be sent to its authors
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Thank you. Yes, we require a signed CA for something this non-trivial.
Victor, I don't know who maintains configure. If you don't, maybe you know who
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On my system: py -3.n -m test.test_regrtest (or test test_regrtest) fails for n
in {5, 6, 7}. 2.7 runs, but there are far fewer test methods. Repository
builds work fine.
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ttk Label backgrounds work fine on Windows and, possibly, Linux (Serhiy?), and
even, possibly with tcl/tk 8.6 on macOS (Ned?). tk 8.6 for macOS has gotten
several bug fixes. C.D., please download and try out the python.org 3.7.0b3
macOS installer. It
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Now-closed duplicate #33386 reported that μ, 0x3bc, is not selected as part of
identifiers when double clicking. This prompted some research.
The 'Windows' style imitates the behavior of Command Prompt, which I presume is
a carryover fro
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bpo-21474: Update IDLE word/identifier definition from ascii to unicode.
(GH-6643)
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The IDLE help doc viewer displays help.html in a tk Text subclass. This index
issue follows #25198, which fixed three immediate issues, and left the
following for later. When tackled, the items below should be separate issues
and PRs listed as
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Dependency of #33396.
1. Base the initial font sizes on the on the configured editor font size. Note
that editor font size defaults to 10 while the current base size is 12. I did
not find any explicit discussion of this in the original issue, #16893, or
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The files uploaded 2015-09-24 and 27 were merged later the same day. The merge
in between on 2015-09-25 was shorter and not uploaded separately. I opened
#33396 as an index issue for the other items and any new ones. I open #33397
for font sizing and
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I reproduced the error on installed 2.7.14, running tk 8.5.18.
I ran TkinterCrash3-2-2.py 15 times on 64-bit Win10, installed x64 3.6.5, with
tk 8.6.8, and experienced no crashes. I ran it another 10 times with 32-bit
repository 3.8 debug and no crashes. My
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As I reported on the pydev thread "bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the
course of action", Firefox cannot find the string 'thread' in the tkinter
chapter of the official doc. Nor in the tkinter.ttk chapter. IDLE does not
fin
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Rerunning 2.7, I sometimes get the following almost immediately without
clicking [launch].
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Programs\Python27\lib\threading.py", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
self.run()
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You did not say 'never with threaded tcl'. You also claimed that tkinter is so
broken, with either threaded or non-threaded tcl/tk, that tkinter should be
trashed. Anyway, I like to test things for myself.
If 'never with threaded tcl
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>From 1994 to 2017, _tkinter.c has received a steady flow of multiple revisions
>each year, for 333 total, by maybe 20 people including Guido. This makes it
>one of the more actively maintained files and indicates the opposite of
>indiffer
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says
"Note that these methods are looked up on the type (metaclass) of a class. They
cannot be defined as class methods in the actual class. This is consistent
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Tooltips still work fine on Windows and given Serhiy's edit, I presume the same
is true on Linux. As far as I remember and have recorded in NEWS.txt, IDLE on
2.7 is unchanged for over a year, since sometime before 2.7.13 was released.
It is too ea
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