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python f:/dev/3x/lib/idlelib/pyshell.py # for instance
no longer start IDLE properly. The separate subprocess startup command for
when pyshell is the main, from 2004, is obsolete and no longer needed. The
command needed
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The shell actually 'starts', but with an empty box and no prompt.
I am thinking of eventually deprecating and disabling starting with pyshell,
but until we do, it should work. If nothing else, we should be able to display
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/6a258c88906a7e8acde455ee2acb78
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3 years ago, Trey Hunter found 11 ways to merge to a new dict.
https://treyhunner.com/2016/02/how-to-merge-dictionaries-in-python/
He followed up with a performance comparison.
https://gist.github.com/treyhunner/f35292e676efa0be1728
** unpacking was nearly
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With respect to Shell, this is a request that IDLE move further away from
strictly imitating Python running in a dumb terminal and better help users with
intelligent action and information. I want both to improve editing and make
entry of a statement in
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This is not a bug; the behavior is covered in the docs. I am surprised that
this works in 2.7, as it has the same warning as 3.7:
"
locals()
Update and return a dictionary representing the current local symbol table.
Free variables are return
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stackoverflow.com. 1. If python behavior puzzles you, the chance that it is a
python bug is well less than 1 in 1000. 2. The answer you get will be much
more visible to others who have
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So we have the same issue with f.__name__ and f.__code__.co_name becoming
unsynchronized.
FWIW, I would prefer that the code docstring be co_doc, rather than hidden in
co_constants, so that 'name' and 'doc' follow the same patte
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Verified.
>>> import io
>>> io.IOBase.writelines.__doc__
>>>
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My *guess* is that you created the branch for PR 7491 when your local master
branch was months out of date. Or you branched off of the 3.7 branch.
Whatever, your patch proposed to revert recent changes to master, touching
about 1000 files. When you
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I agree. The Squeezed Output Viewer is an instance of
idlelib.textview.ViewWindow. The latter is for read-only text and is also used
for the text displays invoked from About IDLE. I have already thought about
making the text searchable. Seaching does
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patch is a good idea, I am reversing what I said before and think that this
issue and the new patch (sorry) should be closed.
1. The new example duplicates the current example
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This issue is about the itemsize attribute of instances of the built-in
memoryview class. Ctypes in only involved in providing format information.
Hence the nosy additions.
On Win10 with 3.8, ctypes has no uint attributes. Using 'c_int32' inste
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says "itemsize The size in bytes of each element of the memoryview"
Revising the code example to use an empty array:
>>> import array, struct
>>> m = memoryview(array.ar
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To me, the failure of dir() in message 1 is surprising and possibly a bug. I
always though of a module globals = locals = dict() instance as continuous
across statements, whether in batch or interactive move. In batch mode
import sys
mod = sys.modules
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On my puzzlement above: repr(s) is a string of 3 characters -- s bracketed by
quote characters. print(repr(s)) fails. I am not sure how s gets expanded to
the full escape in IDLE. ascii(s) expands all non-ascii and adds extra quotes.
Need to check Shell
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You are correct about reason. This is essentially a duplicate of #22742, but I
am leaving it open for now because the behavior is worse and there is
additional information in the tracebacks. The lines for IDLE internals are
normally removed, but the
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I believe that this duplicates comments on other Mac issues. The download web
pages are not part of the CPython repository covered by this tracker. I will
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I verified that the line in Doc/library/doctest.rst has the comment.
"
For example, this test passes::
>>> print(list(range(20))) # doctest: +NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,
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3.6 only gets security fixes. This appears to be an enhancement request.
SkipTest is an exception and according to the doc it should be propagated to
the caller. __unittest_skip__ is an undocumented internal name, so you
probably should not be using it
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from unittest import TestCase, skipIf
#@skipIf(True, "Skip Testing")
class Tests(TestCase):
def test_skip(self):
"this test will fail - if not ski
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PR 12579 started as a fixup for 3.7.4, but there seemed to be a problem of
duplicate commits. The fix, based on Ned Deily's comments, after fetching from
upstream:
cd ../37 # 3.7 workspace
git branch -D news37 # and dict37, whatever it was
git
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New changeset 304ca211c4912f040151e518d9d66fd2d625c5e9 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch '3.7':
[3.7] bpo-34162: Fix idlelib/NEWS.text for 3.7.4 (#13067)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/304ca211c4912f040151e518d9d66f
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This seems like a good idea. I am assuming that open('somename', ...) always
result in a file object with .fileno defined.
Although I am mostly not touching 2.7, this should be easy to do. It will have
to be done manually since iomenu was then
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OS and disk interaction is not something I know a lot about. I don't know how
long different OSes take to write things out by themselves, and therefore how
much real danger there is of loosing data. However, IDLE is used in places
where power is
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The io doc says for IOBase flush()
Flush the write buffers of the stream if applicable. This does nothing for
read-only and non-blocking streams.
and for BufferedWriter flush()
Force bytes held in the buffer into the raw stream. A BlockingIOError
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Please do not close this until at least the idlelib changes are backported.
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Good question. There are two issues when starting IDLE with pythonw.exe, so
that sys.__stderr__ and sys.stderr are initially None.
1. None.write is an attribute error that crashes Python. Therefore, don't do
that. Instead use print. By default, and
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Dustin, thank you for both patches. Some people are not annoyed by minor
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I watched the talk by Nina Zakharenko at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35mXD40SvXM. Since I love being able to save,
compile, and run a file with one keystroke, I appreciate people wanting to do
the equivalent with CircuitExpress and Adafruit. In IDLE
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David, the tracker 'component' is intended to be, for bug reports, the
component of Python that you think has a bug. When you run your code with IDLE
and you get an exception displayed, that almost certainly means that IDLE is
working as intend
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Robert, when posting to this tracker by email, please remove the quote of the
previous post. It duplicates the post itself.
I said exactly what I said, which explained why marking the issue for IDLE was
a mistake. (The same error is a weekly occurrence
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Many modules contain translatable strings. CPython does not ship with
translations of any of them and I believe it is against policy to do so.
1. Core developers, though an international group, are not competent to create
or approve translations.
2. Core
New submission from S. J. Cunningham :
I can't Install the latest python-3.7.3-macosx10.6.pkg on my 10.6.8 system.
Error message says failure to verify. I posted on the forms as suggested
(https://python-forum.io/Thread-Cannot-Install-python-3-7-3-macosx10-6-pkg) but
have receiv
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bpo-36807: When saving a file in IDLE, call flush and fsync (#13102)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Apple's decision to support or not support their products is driven by Apple's
business considerations and is not binding on anyone else. Many people
continue to use earlier versions because of dependence on applications which do
not ru
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I have gotten this too, multiple times, on both Azure Pipelines and Appveyor.
The latter is worse since required. There was also a Mac failure for Azure,
not sure is same issue.
Please disable this test. External resource problems should not be blocking
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New changeset 68a11b6e6a73cd2e9b49e5df9973877b2fed6277 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
[3.7] bpo-36807: When saving a file in IDLE, call flush and fsync (GH-13102)
(#13288)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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PR 13102 is original patch for master; it was merged, not closed.
PR 13284 fixed blurb for master.
PR 13280 backport for 3.7 was closed trying to restart bogus failure; can't do
that for backports.
PR 13288 is second backport; only optional Azure Pipi
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(GH-13293)
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> Do you mean from CircuitPython?
No, I was asking about regular Python on Windows. I was not clear to me
whether any of the software that Nina ran (other than possibly Adafruit USB
drivers) was from Adafruit. I am now guessing that is was all 3rd pa
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As far as I can see, this issue has nothing to do with IDLE as such.
Someone else should decide if this is a bug report or an enhancement request.
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Doctest directives in code examples should be suppressed everywhere *except* in
the doctest.html examples showing how to use directives. The patch only
exposes them for doctest.html and not for ctypes or anywhere else.
They really should not be in the dir
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Syntax errors come from Python, not IDLE. Except for the pseudofile name
('' versus ''), the message is the same as the interactive
interpreter. Anytime one thinks IDLE has a bug, one should check the standard
interactive inter
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"Other installers work without issue?" Is this a comment about other
installers for other versions on your machine? Or a question about other
people using the same binary on other machines?
Using the same python-3.7.0a4-amd64.exe binary, I su
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As far as I know, Windows binaries have only been named python.exe or
pythonw.exe. Before 3.5, I believe, "C:\Pythonxy", where x,y were major,minor,
*was* the default Windows installation directory. 'Python35' must have been
the re
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Pedro: David and Nick are proposing initializing sys.argv to [] rather than
[''] for embedded interpreters. This would say 'running embedded'. The .argv
entry would need an additional sentence.
I like Nick's proposal, except
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The message I get on Windows is
OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long
Given that the exception type is documented, making this a clear bug, I would
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As written, decode_crash.py crashes on Windows also. Passing 'replace' instead
of 'w3lib_replace' results in no crash and lots of boxes and blanks.
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I am also skeptical that this will do more good than harm (by adding time and
fostering mis-impressions). (This might better have started as a discussion on
python-ideas list.)
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I believe that PEP 11 originally said, or should have said "3.6 supports
Windows Vista and newer." I believe 3.5 supports XP, so it should be "please
install Python 3.4".
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I personally think it was a mistake to stop being explicit about Windows
support in PEP 11. The rationale was to avoid having to update it. But it is
updated for other systems; an explicit list is needed somewhere (as illustrated
by my memory lapse; and
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Postscript: I read a week or so ago that a new Windows 10 font chooser will
have this feature. There was not much detail and I believe it is currently
only part of the Preview package.
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zzdummy.py is needed for properly testing the extension mechanism. It is
intended to provide an example extension for users to follow. When completed,
enabled, and invoked, it will prefix every line of a window with some text, or
remove the prefix from
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These patches were first released with the 3.6.3 release candidate. Nothing
was changed for 3.6.4. Rechecking the changes to autocomplete.py in PR 2494,
the only expected effect, after the followup in #31488, PR 3612, is that
changes to the popup wait time
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Not ready to merge.
1. We need the Appveyer test to pass or special action from the gateway gods.
2. After a month, the PR needed to be updated and retested anyway. I pulled,
updated, pushed the update (which will trigger Travis and AV), and tested on my
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OK, test_dictviews and test_ordered_dict now pass for me, and Appveyor already
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Thank you for checking and merging. In the future, we will be reminded to
change '#' to 'GH-' in the title. I only found out a couple of days ago that
this is desired.
David, in msg193651, and Raymond, in msg193779, already suggested ba
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normal, with the notebook and snake icon. Running
import tkinter as tk
r = tk.Tk()
stacks the edge of a shadow icon behind the IDLE icon. When I mouse over the
pair, the
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I am inclined to believe. The answer to "How do I run a Python program under
Windows?" should include how to use 'py'. 'python' will not work unless the
install directory has been added to the path. Of course, 'py
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