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unittest is another module with half-fixed and half-variable names. The
default (glob) pattern for test module names is given as "test*.py". The fixed
pattern for test methods is given as "starts with 'test'". This could have
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AData> You log and output show that you problem is as described: package
'sound' is in directory "C:/" and "C:/" is not is sys.path. Possible remedies:
1. Add "C:/" to sys.path at the top of each module that impor
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For file names, the result is in italics. Looking at
https://devguide.python.org/exploring/, that seems to work well. Can we just
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New changeset ee0f927bd8dba805a04963dbec1ad49fe830b842 by Terry Jan Reedy
(Cheryl Sabella) in branch 'master':
bpo-35689: IDLE: Add docstrings and unittests for colorizer.py (GH-11472)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Thank you for writing this. I was NOT looking forward to tackling tests for
this module.
I have thought about merging delegator and colorizer into one module, possibly
with percolator included, and adding a module docstring that explains how they
work
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#34313 reports problems with multiprocessing when using at least some versions
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#1529353 added squeezer, making this alternative unnecessary. Once squeezed,
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Spin-off from #14929, which fixed crash. From msg161754:
"The default extension is .py. The default encoding for .py files is utf-8. I
think that is the default for what Idle writes. So I think this should be the
default encoding (explicitly give
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#27099 (converting built-in extensions to features) made this less important.
But it is still relevant to actual extensions. There is a dummy extension,
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As far as I can tell, the entire diff in @htest-34-2.diff was pushed. My
comment about 'up to first line of grep' was correct alphabetically but
confusing because files with a '# htest #' section were not completely
alphabetical in
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A StackOverflow use got the same _ModuleLock message.
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David, the easiest thing to do would be to copy and paste the following
+ ['async', 'await']
into this line of colorizer.py (ColorDelegator.py in 3.5)
kw = r"\b" + any("KEYWORD", keyword.kwlist) + r"\b"
a
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This will help IDLE startup (though webbrowser should not be imported on
windows, where os.startfile is used instead).
This is a somewhat separate issue, but should the Windows code be modified for
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If 'import test' fails that way, then there is a problem either with Anaconda
or your installation. You might try deleting
.../Lib/test/__pycache__/__init__*.pyc.
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If the patch still applies cleanly, I have no issues with you or anyone opening
a PR. I picked this up several years ago at the PyCon sprints, and don't
remember a thing about it, nor have I touched any other bit of the CPython
source since then. S
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Marco, did you see this message?
(r"WARNING: The version of Tcl/Tk ({0}) in use may"
r" be unstable.\n"
r"Visit http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/";
r" for current information.".format(patchlevel))
Or is it s
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The changes appear consistent within themselves (ie, no apparent typos), and
the one for builtin len appears to fix a bug that would allow negative length.
Can tests be written in Python that fail without the patch? Or would
mis-behaving classes have to be
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https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#len * does not specify the
exception. In such cases, we occasionally change exception in x.y.0 releases
without prior notice other than News and What's New. Also, I think
unnecessarily exposing a co
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https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#bool refers to
https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#truth
The latter says that values are true ("All other values are considered true")
unless one of certain conditions holds. For us
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Fetching the file requires '-u urlfetch' or '-u all'. For me, the test 'works'
by skipping test_main. Loading www.pythontest.net refers one to
https://github.com/python/pythontestdotnet/. Pinging contributors there.
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I disagree. The docs only sporadically mention specific exceptions for
specific functions. UnicodeDecodeError can occur any place bytes are decoded
to unicode. I think this should be closed.
Builtin exceptions are documented in
https://docs.python.org/3
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Checking, I see that the default ^D binding to DEL is documented in IDLE Help,
section 2, Editing and Navigation, along with other Text defaults. (I need to
determine if the list is complete. Is it the same on all systems?)
I question whether IDLE should
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Reopening because I missed file=sys.__stderr__ in the print() above sys.exit
;-(. Reported by JelleZijlstra in PR.
I wonder if there is any way to force an import to fail when testing. I could
at least partly test by moving the code for import failure and
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Raymond, Am I correct in thinking that your comment is not specific to bytes
but applies to all patches like this? If so, I think I agree because any
future changes that break tests will almost certain happen in 3.7+, so that the
extra work of backporting
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I verified on Win 10 with 3.6.1. What system are you running on?
An automatic unittest test would be nice, but I cannot imagine how to write
one. Even a human-verified htest (IDLE private term) would be good. Maybe I
should write a live-interaction test
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Scratch my confusion. I added "print('after')" immediately after
_thread.interrupt_main() in idlelib.run.Executor.interrupt_the_server() and
'after' is printed in Shell right after I hit ^C but a time.sleep(10) is no
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Eryk, would the addition go before or after "trip_signal(SIGINT);"
I posted "Issue with _thread.interrupt_main (29926)" on pydev list. Steven
D'Aprano verified delayed response on *nix.
Martin Panter said
"
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attached to one.
What I want, from an IDLE perspective, is for ^C in IDLE's shell to work as
well as it does in a terminal. That means either fixing _thread.interrupt_main
to a
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String arguments to int are quoted int literals. From
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#literals
'Underscores are ignored for determining the numeric value of the literal. They
can be used to group digits for enhanced readability
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*Way* too wordy. In msg278666, I suggested minimal and terse alternatives.
a. /exactly/nearly/
b. add "except that a 0 conversion flag is not ignored when a precision is
given for d, i, o, u, x and X conversion
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The follow-up tkinter import issue is #29446
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A fix for 3.6+ will be better than nothing ;-)
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The index currently has
comprehensions
*list*
with *list* linked to 6.2.5 List displays. I suggest:
1. Link *comprehensions* to 6.2.4. Displays for lists, sets and dictionaries
2. Add subentries *set*, *dict*, and *generator* linked to
2a. 6.2.6. Set
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See #29983 for expanding the title of the 'atoms' section containing
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New submission from Terry J. Reedy:
Today there is a fairly long python-list thread about the difficult of finding
info on 'dict comprehensions' in the doc. Point 1 is missing index entries. I
opened #29981 for this. Point 2 is something I have also noticed: the
obscurity of &
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'displays' is partly redundant with 'comprehensions'. Since many think of
other 'displays' as a type of literal, leave 'displays' out. They are well
indexed. I think the most likely term people have trouble finding
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(Response to what I believe is latest patch.) In msg278666, my two suggestions
were 'either...or', not both. The list came from Antti's msg278528, but the
correct list for Python appears to be different, and different for bytes and
unicode.
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#29287 is about syntax highlighting the code within f-strings as code rather
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Is math.exp(x) always more accurate than math.e ** x? If so, doc could say so.
Otherwise, should this be closed?
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I agree with the rejection on the PR.
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I agree. And if the sub-exceptions are different, prepend them to the messages
in the OSError list.
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A generator function *gf* is a function that contain *yield* in its body. When
it is compiled, flag CO_GENERATOR is set in gf.__code__.co_flags. When the
function is called, the flag is queried and if set, a special path is taken
that attaches the live but
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If you want to know if a function returns a generator, you have to call it and
pass the result to *isgenerator*, or use type-annotated functions (see the
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'crash' means OS message rather than Python exiting with exception traceback
and message.
Can you post a minimal reproducer? What OS? subprocess.Popen._get_handles is
different on POSIX and windows, though both seem to call f.fileno() without
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We seldom just remove things; we usually deprecate in the doc and if possible,
issue a runtime warning.
This is probably not the only obsolete codec. There should be a uniform policy
for deprecation and removal, if ever. But for any codec, there might be
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I don't like telling people to hand-edit .idlerc files. It causes too many
problems. We added Extensions tab to avoid this. I think all supported
options should be on dialog.
Windows are resizable and accommodate lines up to current width. Default
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Your report touches on four different issues.
1. IDLE uses tkinter for the GUI and tkinter wraps tcl/tk 8.6 or earlier, which
only handles Basic Multilingual Plane chars (codepoints to ). The gun
and knife chars are out of that range. I have read
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To include corner cases, I should have asked 'at least as accurate' rather than
'more accurate'. It would be a sad libm that had specialized functions worse
than pow, since the specialized functions could, at worse, use pow.
For an exper
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Raymond added his comment while I was writing mine. A FAQ with added caveats
might be even better, but it will be mostly missed. If we add one, I might add
a comment to some of the SO questions.
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I checked the patch and it appears to be a clean search/replace. I assume that
the aliases have the same diff in C as in Python.
The only idlelib replacement is in run.py, where I (mistakenly) added IOError
in 3.3 and 3.4 as well as in 2.7. This must have
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Keith, while I sympathize with the request, I am going to agree with the others
and close this. As I see it, csv exists to solve a particular problem. We
want a printable file of records and text fields with visible field and record
separators, but we may
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inspect.isfunction(object) is documented to
Return true if the object is a Python function, which includes functions
created by a lambda expression.
This is currently implemented as "isinstance(object, types.FunctionType)".
The docs usuall
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inspect.getargspec is deprecated in favor of .getfullargspec and .signature and
is implemented in with .getfullargspec. This, in turn, calls
._signature_from_callable which ultimately looks for (perhaps after recursive
unwrap calls) obj.__signature__. So I
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My suggestion from the python-ideas thread:: replace the current
"The function names are those used for special class methods; variants without
leading and trailing __ are also provided for convenience."
with
""Many function names are th
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This is a (duplicate) enhancement request, not a bug report. The superseder
field is for when an issue is closed as a duplicate; I decided that this should
be. Further discussion should be on python-ideas.
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In #30075, Tithen Firion reports that "subprocess.call('', shell=True)" leaves
the console in ANSI mode. In Eryk Sun says that this is likely a bug in
cmd.exe and gives improved code for putting the console in VT mode, when this
is poss
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Has or will builtin classes be modified to follow advice to include a separate
__bool__? In 3.6.1,
>>> r = range(19**100)
>>> bool(r)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
bool(r)
OverflowError: Python i
New submission from Stephen J. Turnbull:
In section 4.6.3. "Mutable Sequence Types" of current documentation, Note 1 to
the table says "[iterable] t must have the same length as the slice it is
replacing." This is incorrect in the case of extension: s[len(s):] = t
accordin
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Sorry, I just realized this note only applies to slices with a stride (k in
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I prefer Josh's wording. The important point to me is that
>>> [1, 2][2:0] = "AB"
[1, 2, "A", "B"]
not an error or ["B", "A"] == [1, 2][2:0:-1]. I think too much talk about the
endpoi
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I will make this one of my priority issues once I get up to speed with the new
workflow. However, it is not a trivial issue, and I am not sure that all my
beliefs of a year ago were correct. What I really do not want to do is break
IDLE running when users
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>From the viewpoint of IDLE and masking, the stdlib has three parts: idlelib,
>other modules that IDLE imports, and other modules that IDLE does not import.
>As I already noted, this division is different for IDLE and user processes.
IDLE may delay
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Thank you Raymond. What I missed before is a) the OP's misnamed EmptyIterator
is an iterable (possibly non-empty) but not an iterator, empty or otherwise,
and b) a sequence __len__ that lies is just a bug. (So is a iterator that does
not yield the con
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Since I had the same wrong idea, I dug further into the site.
The explanation is at https://www.iso.org/about-us.html
'''
It's all in the name
Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different
acronyms
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IDLE's debugger needs multiple patches. It is based on bdb. So I want to be
able to understand the bdb code and know that it is sound. The file is nearly
devoid of docstrings, so I would like to add those first, probably in a
separate patch. A first
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I and others constantly tell people to start IDLE from the command line when
they have a problem. Today, someone actually followed the advice and the
traceback revealed that the problem was a personal tkinter.py masking the
stdlib file! Renaming it to
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I believe importing argparse in the __main__ clause (or a main or test function
called therein) is common. I prefer it there as it is not germain to the code
that is usually imported. I have a similar view on not immediately importing
warnings when only
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The '|' should be '&' to avoid useless summing of 0 products.
I think this should be rejected. Python's number and collections classes
provide basic operations from which users can build application-specific
functions. Or in the
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Bug examples should be the bare minimum of code needed to reproduce the
problem, not a dump of (failing) application code. See, for instance,
https://stackoverflow.com/help/mcve.
http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/listbox.htm says "Any time the s
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While I have previously done docstrings and tests together, I can see that for
this issue, separation might be preferable. Cherl, can you open a new issue
and re-title the PR? (I don't know if that will be sufficient to 'move' it,
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New changeset 9dc2b3809f38be2e403ee264958106badfda142d by terryjreedy
(csabella) in branch 'master':
bpo-30208: DOC: fix small typos in IDLE (#1354)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/9dc2b3809f38be2e403ee264958106badfda142d
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Thank you for the review. These are definitely bugs. Please check IDLE
component also for IDLE doc issues. That will auto-assign them to me.
Your first merged PR? If so, congrats.
Changes should be applied to at least 3.6, if not 3.5 and 2.7. 3.6 doc
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