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I installed 64-bit 3.7.2rc1 on my Macbook, with 8.6.9, and so far IDLE itself
runs fine. (Other than new blackout issue reported in #34313.) I will let
someone else test 32/64 bit release, which Ned says also uses 8.6.9.
Vlad says in msg323040 "on 8.
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I understand that until last spring, the tcl/tk/tkinter situation on Mac was a
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3.7 and now 3.6. We no longer install
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Since the code and doc agree, and since the proposal is to add a call
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The proposal seems reasonable. I might use it for IDLE.
IDLE uses .read within this subclass method
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https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/robotparser.html#module-robotparser
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refers users, for file structure, to http://www.robotstxt.org/orig.html.
This says nothing about the
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# Require Sphinx 1.7 for build.
Matthias, I presume you are on some Linux. Would a script to temporarily change
conf.py to build the docs work for you?
To be reasonably sure that 1.6.6 is
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Thank you both for the updates. After I wrote my previous message, I realized
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would squeeze at 3750. With k = 50, as 2500.
I am not sure yet what to do about wrapping. For development, a count of
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I did not find the references in the text I remembered, but found 2 more
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The point of the minimal code snippet is that the behavior is tk/tkinter
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Tal, trying to understand your confused description of what behavior you want
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What current 3.x versions have this issue? This issue was opened against 2.7.
This was changed to 3.3 in 2013 (3.3 should have just been added with
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The PR is
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if s[pos] == '\n':
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I am going to merge on the presumption that you will follow through at least
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output: switch from 'advanced to basic and calls to final_key_selected,
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Response to history issues raised in PR:
1. Not erasing output/history is a feature: some shells save and restore recent
history when close and open. Shell restart is an alternative to that. I
fairly often replay statements after restart.
2. I think
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self.bell is set as top.bell in searchbase.SearchDialogBase.create_widgets().
The latter is called by SDB.open(), which is called for Find, Find-again if
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I expect that people have run into this. But since callback exceptions do not
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A function to change state will be needed in the future, as illustrated by a
preliminary version of PR-11325. On that PR, I requested that this part of that
PR should be attached to this issue instead, with no change in the blurb
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As Cheryl noted, the cause of the specific regression is the erroneous
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It was decided in #21446 to only backport the change, labelled an enhancement,
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