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> It is certainly unusual for n to be in the sequence, but not to be able to
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Agreed. Doc Lib: 4.6. Sequence Types — str, bytes, bytearray, list, tuple,
range says '''
s.index(i) index of the first occurence of i in s
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"When the definition of a function is n
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Did I read right?
Clicking F5 crashes while clicking Run and then 'Run Module F5' works?
(They ought to be the same thing.)
If so, check the key bindings. Options/Configure IDLE .../Keys.
There should be an entry 'Run Module - '.
Is F5 bo
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> before. There is a common idi
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One of most common recurring topics on python-list (perhaps monthly) is newbies
tripping over a mutation method returning None when they expect the collection.
Today's example: "Puzzled by list-appending behavior".
An excerpt fro
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Ahem. Interactive mode is an approved method of running Python code, along with
batch mode. The core interpreter and stdlib modules should run correctly in
both modes. So the entire test suite should pass in both modes too. If the
tests are written correctly
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Windows.
OK. batch mode with if __name__ block:
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switches to interactive mode
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Anyway, I considered the general statements to be drafts, to be rewritten after
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As to the footnote (9) suggestion: the set and dict sections list each method
separately with normal
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I suspect you are right, but do not know the rules, and have never used the
module. There is no particular person maintaining xml.dom.X at present.
Could you please fill in the ... after the import to give a complete minimal
example that fails? Someone could
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>it seems a trivial abbreviation (and why not .dump and .dumpf instead). Since,
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or equivalent on Windows. And Jesus is correct.
In general, include system with reports.
With 3.2.0 IDLE on Winxp, adjusted 3.x code
import urllib.request as ur, http.co
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help(doctest.testmod)
...
Optional keyword arg "optionflags
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I ran with 3.2, winxp with "if __name__ == '__main__':" added after the def
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and ()s added to prints. Hung on pool.join as OP said. I could only stop by
closi
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treated differently.
Most of the confusion reported is due to not reading the intro paragrap
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Return a copy of *self* with the sign set to be the same as the sign of *other*.
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This is a bit tricky. It may be superseded, but it is still there, is possible
used in older code, has not been deprecated as far as I know, and appears in
dir(ast).
The two current mentions of PyCF_ONLY_AST in ast doc are:
"An abstract syntax tree c
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As with all the math docs, 'x' refers to the value, not the object with the
value. However, "Return abs(x) with the sign of y" is, to me, clearer and more
accurate. Both doc string and doc chapter should get any modification.
-
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For c stdio files, intermixed reads and writes require a file positioning
operation. This is a nuisance and source of program bugs. I do not see any such
limitation documented for our io module. So for both reasons, it will be nice
to not have the limitation
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I have no idea what 'XT' in the title means.
The only possible relevant change I *know* of is that 3.2 on Windows comes with
a later version tk/tcl 8.5 than 3.1. If you find the exact version numbers, you
could query/report on the tk/tcl forum
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*Python* code. An error in the value given to a Python sensibly raises a
ValueError unless a module does something more specific.
>From the xml.dom doc
"DOM Level 2 recomm
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suggest closing this. Correct? If not, what is the requested action?
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Hanging is different from crashing.
2.6 and 3.1 (soon) are only open for security issues.
Perhaps your system is missing something needed for the import.
If you want this to stay open, retest with 2.7 or 3.2 and give much more
information: your system/OS, C/C
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The intended method of using a non-default browser is well documented and the
OP did exactly the right thing. However, even if Opera is present, the 'right
thing' does not work because nothing but iexplorer gets registered (and that
not completel
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I have it set as my default browser. It would otherwise be inaccessible because
it is not in the _browser registry. It also appears that I cannot intentionally
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Stdio was, I presume, optimized for speed. In the relatively rare case of
mixed read/write, it *should* put the burden on
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like, "Like all other WSGI specification types", since *all* types specified in
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> "Return a float with the magnitude of x but the sign of y."
This appears to describe both current behavior and what I believe was the
intention. I would go with a doc patch based on this.
umedoblock, go ahead and make one.
It occurred to me,
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>From what I have read, Windows is not a very pleasant environment for
>extending and embedding.
1. It works best if both Python and the extender or embedder are compiled with
th
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umedoblock: David, Mark, and I agree that this should be a doc issue, and so I
suggested a DOC patch. So I do not know why you are screwing around with the
code, or what you are trying to do with it, or why you are messing around with
the version headers or
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Third party refers to things other than Pythonx.y code For instance,
distutils2/distribute was for some years developed separately from the main
codebase and was recently merged into the 3.3 repository. While separate, its
issues were '3rd party'
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This should be reopened because we do not change error classes
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We have a second item for the PEP (or Guide) section (but I think I prefer in
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So I changed the title a bit.
On 6/10/2011 3:49 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Nick Cogh
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is what I expect and want the default to be, not the Terry/whatever that I have
never used (or the admin/whatever if I
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Martin, any ideas?
Jack, I would wipe out the tcl directory and rerun the 2.7.1 installer,
selecting just the tk/tcl/idle option. I have trouble believe that every 2.7.1
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Either code or doc must change (with 'version changed' note). Doc: "The default
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only the exception type and value are printed."
Christian's patch: "v
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already in the site-variables section (where I think they should be), not in
builtin funcs. Did someone move them since? If so, you should discuss rather
than just revert.
The
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A bug for tracker purposes is a discrepancy between doc and code. That can be
fixed in current versions. A design change is a feature request and can only go
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