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bpo-37149: Replace dead link for online Tkinter reference (GH-14616)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/45bc61b97178b27ae05bd3eb95481b
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Ned, PR-14616 replaces a dead link to the most important online Tkinter
reference. Please consider cherry-picking the 3.7 backport (already merged)
into the upcoming 3.7.4. Many people are lost without the reference, as they
find reading the tcl/tk
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The 2.7 backport shows a clean 2.7 diff, Travis merged and passed it, but
required Appveyor just says 'non-mergeable' with no details, and no way to
discover why or to cleanly retry. I will try close and
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index can be 0
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bpo-37487: Fix PyList_GetItem index description. (GH-14623)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/f8709e804d16ec5d44b1d2f00d59a0
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New changeset 9c930d076a7225694b369d30636a29acb556c2be by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
bpo-37487: Fix PyList_GetItem index description. (GH-14623) (GH-14625)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-37487: Fix PyList_GetItem index description. (GH-14623) (GH-14624)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-37487: Fix PyList_GetItem index description. (GH-14623) (GH-14626)
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bpo-37456: Slash ('/') is now part of syntax. (GH-14627)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/6f2a8c08573c71b78d2f
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Please ask your questions about doc conventions, both about exceptions and
function/method. Either someone will point to something in the devguide, or we
might get a discussion about something that should be added. I would not merge
more extensive changes
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bpo-37456: Slash ('/') is now part of syntax. (GH-14627) (GH-14628)
https://github.com/p
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An Python exception is not a crash; a crash is the program stopping without an
exception and proper cleanup.
If s is a string (rather than, for instance, None),
s and (s[0] == char) is equivalent to s[0:1] == char
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My problems with this chapter are that it mostly ignores Windows, omits IDLE
which has most of the 'advanced features' discussed, and some others (I could
fix this), confuses a bit 'interpreter' as code executor versus 'interactive
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bpo-37478: Specify possible exceptions for os.chdir() (GH-14611)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/0717b4d9b3899c5c2ca13031e4ff61
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bpo-37478: Specify possible exceptions for os.chdir() (GH-14611) (GH-14629)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-37478: Add missing 'and'. (GH-14631)
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A closing note: Saimadhav Heblikar's initial patch on #17535 was a standalone
proof-of-concept file was based on Canvas and Text subclasses. The latter
consisted mostly of two tk.eval(tcl_code) calls. I rejected the idea of using
tk.eval, as revie
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Larry, I have the same request of you that I did for Ned. Please backport
PR-14616 to 3.5. It replaces a dead link to the most important online Tkinter
reference. Many people are lost without the reference, as they find reading
the tcl/tk reference much
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Compiling without docstrings only affects compiled functions. (Is this option
unix only, for servers?) This caused failures in 6 /test test functions.
Running with -00 only affects python functions. It causes failure in 19 test
function on Windows. For
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build:
F:\dev\3x>python
Running Debug|Win32 interpreter...
Python 3.9.0a0 (heads/master:110a47c4f4, Jul 9 2019, 01:31:55) [MSC v.1900 32
bit (Intel)] on win32
Type &q
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I am pretty sure that this started sometime well after 3.7 was split off from
master. Perhaps there was some change in python shutdown not backported to 3.7.
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To avoid such questions, bug reports should contain exception messages and
usually at least some of the tracebacks.
>>> ''[0]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
''[0]
IndexError: strin
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Also, quotes should be attributed to a file and patch snipped should indicate
the target.
As for the bug, the author(s) of the expressions "value[1:]" and "value[0]"
presumably *expected* value to initially have length 2 so that it wo
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Issue for Tal's PR 14675, dependency of #33610.
1. Only create CodeContext instances for "real" editors windows, but not e.g.
shell or output windows.
- Previously, were created but never activated because menu item deactivated.
This is
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
#37530 addresses I2, events (Tal, see msg319241 above). I considered this to
be about next in priority. It also does some I1 cleanup.
In that list, the 2nd M3 should be M4. The comment "D1 is PR 7579" should have
referred to PR 7597, merged
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bpo-26806: IDLE should run without docstrings (#14657)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/6aeb2fe606408aae14c246470794f1
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bpo-26806: IDLE should run without docstrings (GH-14657) (GH-14677)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-26806: IDLE should run without docstrings (GH-14657) (GH-14678)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Oakley's patch was intentionally very general, allowing line number heights to
vary because of different fonts, font sizes, or widget inclusions. This
required positioning line numbers by pixel (hence canvas) and accommodating
line size changes even i
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One time after doing something unusual with IDLE (editing theme?, not sure) I
did not get message on exit. But next time, back again.
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I believe I meant the opposite of what I said, which fortunately is what Tal
did. PR 14500 is the one I looked at and commented on and the name change in
PR 14500 is what needed to be included in PR 12481 (done).
I would like to retitle this issue '
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
When this is merged, I will open a format menu master issue listing todos.
Dependencies will include 4 issues, #24817, #5150 (two items), #18583 (with
patch), and #23367 (with patch), other than #36219, follow-up code revisions,
and revising README.txt
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I still see it after update and rebuild. What could be different? An error in
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"Exception ignored" is not produced by IDLE, and we have seen this before.
multicall, line 29 says:
# In 3.4, if no shell window is ever open, the underlying Tk widget is
# destroyed before .__del__ methods here are called. The following
#
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Possible sweep-more-under-the-rug fix for both current issues: add links and,
after current 'except tkinter.TclError',
except AttributeError:
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I see the traceback I reported on #37524, whichever way I close. In both
cases, EditorWindow.close is called and we get an AttributeError because a file
has become None. close() calls maybesave before _close, so the exception I see
happens before _close is
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I repeated Tal's experiment, on Windows, and added more. I list below multiple
issues related to code context and scrolling, and possible solutions.
1: two geometry modes. After the text height is set on start up or by restore
height, CC height is
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Steve, there is a problem in both lines of this suggestion.
if os.path.normcase(os.getcwd()) == os.path.normcase(sys.prefix):
os.chdir(get_default_location(sys.platform))
On my 3.8 repository build,
>>> import os; os.getcwd()
'F:\\de
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Whereas I found the fixed size to be much less usable. The default of 3 lines
was too few and often useless when context is needed whereas a realistic size
of, say, 8, wasted too much space too much of the time. I might prefer
deleting the feature to
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
FWIW: Marking Component: Documentation means that the issue is only about
changing the doc. Hence the auto-assignment to the nebulous docs group, which
no longer exists in the form it once did. Enhancement issues nearly always
need a doc change but are
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PR 14030 for #17535 (line numbers) also has code for 1. I want to merge this
first, and fix-up the other.
Changing context font at the same time as the text font, instead of up to 1
second later, eliminates a visual glitch and is a user-visible improvement
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I2: replace font/hightlight loop with notification and immediate change instead
of a delay is a bugfix.
In testing PR 14675 for #37530 I discovered a bug. 'Show' always shows a
single blank line, as if the top visible line were the top line o
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'at least' means 'get something working, then consider expanding'.
The scrollwheel is tougher without built-in start/stop events equivalent to
press/release. We could, however, synthesize them. But I want to start with
mouse butto
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nntplib.rst is ">>> s = NNTP('news.gmane.org')" I use gmane and occasional
failures to respond are routine. Being able to merge should
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New changeset f8d4cc7dbbf54b9c5435c3080582a4aa421a067d by Terry Jan Reedy
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bpo-27452: IDLE: Cleanup config.py code (GH-14577)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/f8d4cc7dbbf54b9c5435c3080582a4
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As near as I can tell, 'python file.py' results in absolute __file__ in 3.9
versus still relative in 3.8.
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An implementation note mostly to myself: In 3.8 and before, 'python
relative/path/to/file.py' results in the __file__ attribute of the main module
being the relative path, and a possibly unnormalized full path is os.curdir +
__file__. I believe
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New changeset 178f09f8b7d25348d46751a774666dd4ec32f3e6 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.8':
bpo-27452: IDLE: Cleanup config.py code (GH-14577) (GH-14802)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/178f09f8b7d25348d46751a774666d
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New changeset efd23a199b1415a9850a914d525a1e5711fdd6d8 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
bpo-27452: IDLE: Cleanup config.py code (GH-14577) (GH-14803)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/efd23a199b1415a9850a914d525a1e
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Thanks for preparing the PR.
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New changeset 82494aa6d947c4a320c09c58fe0f100cdcf7af0b by Terry Jan Reedy
(Cheryl Sabella) in branch 'master':
bpo-36390: IDLE: Combine region formatting methods. (GH-12481)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/82494aa6d947c4a320c09c58fe0f10
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Islington (bot)) in branch '3.8':
bpo-36390: IDLE: Combine region formatting methods. (GH-12481) (GH-14811)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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bpo-36390: IDLE: Combine region formatting methods. (GH-12481) (GH-14812)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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The new PR moves the remaining Format functions to format.py. I only edited
enough to make things work.
I did not add tests for the 2 indent methods. They only change future indents,
leaving existing indents as it. They need change, possibly elimination
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New changeset 1b3892243433da7eae7f5f3a4f98f13d309c8926 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-36390: Gather IDLE Format menu functions into format.py (#14827)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/1b3892243433da7eae7f5f3a4f98f1
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New changeset 028f1d2479a9a508e1f0bfcff42c20c348244549 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.8':
bpo-36390: Gather IDLE Format menu functions into format.py (GH-14827)
(GH-14829)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
bpo-36390: Gather IDLE Format menu functions into format.py (GH-14827)
(GH-14830)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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New changeset e0a1f8fb5c60886dbddf1a3ccb5d47576bdd43e2 by Terry Jan Reedy (Tal
Einat) in branch 'master':
bpo-33610: IDLE's code-context always shows current context immediately
(GH-14821)
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bpo-33610: IDLE's code-context always shows current context immediately
(GH-14821) (#14846)
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As said multiple times on #13153, IDLE exits with a traceback that is visible
when it is started from a command line (python -m idlelib). It usually ends
with
File "F:\dev\3x\lib\tkinter\__init__.py", line 1420, in mainloop
self.tk.
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Closed #37614 in favor of this.
We now have only Python with FSR and mostly only tcl 8.6 to worry about. But I
presume the Windows clipboard still uses uft-16le. Experimenting with pasting
𐒢 or '𐒢', I usually get the 'ed' message
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I agree that for python x.y, the names imported by 'import *' should be fixed
and *not* depend on other imports.
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gmane was down awhile yesterday, so another merge (temporarily) blocked because
of this. If either of you knows how to fix this, please do so.
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New changeset 35b87e6001bd991f625abe305951c77ddeb9a9c5 by Terry Jan Reedy
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bpo-37627: Initialize IDLE Custom Run dialog with previous entries (#14870)
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One of the required CI tests is a Travis doc build, even if a PR does not touch
any doc file. The following failure appears to be deterministic on master and
3.8. A 3.7 backport passed. It has happened multiple times on multiple PRs
today. Example
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Although the error message says line 267, the suspicious line is on 273 for the
copies in my repository on windows. If 267 does not work, I will revise and
merge my overlapping PR that removes the number. Most of the entries in
susp-ignored.csv do not
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New changeset 4214f1ec3b3c73badd639229eff81eb5e57b82ec by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-37627: Add acknowledgment (#14883)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4214f1ec3b3c73badd639229eff81e
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Tal's 2 issues above have been resolved.
1. Line numbers are initially off by default but this can be reversed on the
Settings General tab.
2. Line numbers can be shown and hidden for a window on the Option menu.
The only bug I know of that must be
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Ned, about window menus and Mac's single menu: tk and macOS work together to
switch the menu to the menu of a window that becomes active. I opened two
editor windows and clicked 'Show Code Context' in just one of them. The menu
then
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
If a ViewWindow has more that 24 lines, then it has a button bar at the bottom
that currently has one button -- [Close].
1. Make the bar permanent, regardless of size.
The next steps are to adapt the editor code for Find.
2. Add another button [Search] or
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New changeset c6fd6c83b70df76421d05a7628367e64a2f83589 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-29446: IDLE -- add explicit imports (GH-14919)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/c6fd6c83b70df76421d05a7628367e
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New changeset fc63d5a361f7d20282019cad84336a242c124267 by Terry Jan Reedy (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.8':
bpo-29446: IDLE -- add explicit imports (GH-14919) (GH-14920)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/fc63d5a361f7d20282019cad84336a
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Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7':
bpo-29446: IDLE -- add explicit imports (GH-14919) (#14921)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/aee260f1c4d32bf67edec209d94929
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A note on the first 3 comments in msg223086 of 2014-07-15.
1. Canvas versus Text: The prototype posted by Brian Oakley on SO had to use a
Canvas because it was meant to work even with texts with multiple fonts and
in-line widgets. IDLE's editor, int
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
After-thought test 2: proportional fonts* work fine. Nearly all have
monospaced digits, with extra space around '1' if there is no bottom bar. So
those also have nicely aligned right-justified columns in the sidebar. And the
one font I
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I had forgotten about this, but by coincidence, it occurred again today, on
'x86 Windows7 3.7' after PR-14919 was merged. This may be the same machine as
I might have left '7' off 'Windows' in the original report.
The 'wi
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I consider it a bug for *IDLE* to place and size windows so that the bottom of
the window is hidden. (If users, perhaps temporarily, move a window down so
that the bottom is hidden, that is their business.)
This is especially bad for the Settings dialog
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
New changeset 76b645124b3aaa34bc664eece43707c01ef1b382 by Terry Jan Reedy
(Flavian Hautbois) in branch 'master':
bpo-29446: tkinter 'import *' only imports what it should (GH-14864)
https://github.com/p
Change by Terry J. Reedy :
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resolution: -> fixed
stage: patch review -> resolved
status: open -> closed
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
And maybe a horizontal scroll. In any case, line wrap should be off. Feel
free to whip up a minimal change PR that we can merge before Monday.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The current right margin is 1 pixel. Let's try making it 2.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
New changeset 46ebd4a6a22431ce9676546d2bbe5a6dcd1cc1c1 by Terry Jan Reedy (Tal
Einat) in branch 'master':
bpo-17535: Increase line number horizontal padding by 2 pixels (GH-14959)
https://github.com/python/cpyt
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