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Lewis, removing you was an accident. Your post is correct.
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After reading the Wikipedia article, I agree with removing Hudson.
The text is the same in the master branch (future 3.10), so make a PR against
master. We will backport to 3.9 and 3.8 from there.
Jenkins is already mentioned. So replace 'or Hudson&
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Python 3.10.0a0 Jul 23 2020, win32 (without patch)
>>> from multiprocessing import shared_memory
>>> shm_a = shared_memory.SharedMemory(create=True, size=0)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
shm_a
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What is 'it' in 'it works even after restart'?
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It has been awhile since we added anything to turtledemo, so this is plausible.
It might be more interesting than some of the others. I will take a look.
Until I do, I won't worry about maintenance. I and someone else fixed up the
driver in summer
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Ehsonjon, 'fixed' means the the PR has be merged.
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Antonio, when replying by email, please delete the quoted message (except
possibly for a line or two that you want to quote). When posted on the web
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No, I think ValueError on all systems is better. I have no idea what
'wnsm_4ab39616' is about other than something internal to Windows. It does not
say what to do to correct the call.
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The way to tell if _tkinter is involved or if this is purely tcl/tk issue would
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maybe tkinter.tcl. I don't know how. I think that _tkinter involvement is
maximize handli
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As I at least hinted above, I would rather add the missing line starts than
delete more. I am quite sure that their absence degrades overall performance
in some sense. A much bigger match problem that this one is that ^0 always
half fails when the cursor
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New changeset f1d40f941a6483b1d4ea10f1051ace7b426fb8e7 by Akuli in branch
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8b052751d32c43540e2786ce0b3f7e
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All open files, up to the most recent 21 (and that could be increased) are in
the recent file list. Clicking on any name loads that file, unless it is
already loaded. The exception enforced in filelist.FileList.open, lines 29-32:
if key in
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Recent edits to iomenu.IOBinding.loadfile were intended to preserve the option
of reloading a non-empty editor.
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We cannot prevent files being viewed and possibly modified by multiple programs
and in general, should not. I often open a file in more than one python
version. In any case, the proposed change would have a high chance on
introducing bugs. I just
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Simpler test.
Open IDLE Shell (only) from icon or (preferably) terminal.
>>> input()
# Close IDLE without giving input with Window (X), File => exit, or
Control/Command-Q.
Click OK in "Your program is still running" box (from PySh
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>From the closed PR: "I'll delete it from turtledemo and it will be at
>tools/demo file!"
No! turtledemo was in tools/demo in 2.x, where hardly anyone saw it. It was
made into an importable module in 3.0. A link was later added to th
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
This is a duplicate of the original issue, #41380, except that it proposes to
put the new file where it does not belong and will be useless, instead of in
turtledemo.
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IRv, please, please, snip the message you respond to when replying by email
instead of with a browser.
I am guessing that you or someone installed python as root/admin and you are
working as non-root.
I will try to figure out why the change results in the
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#41413 exposed another double save on Mac issue.
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More specifically, why the change results the same box twice on Mac but not on
Windows. The previous double-save issue, worst on Mac, was #35379.
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froze IDLE with a custom theme missing 'colours for the blinker and
highlighting'. I reported some experiments there. Tracebacks might help, but
Proposal 1: c
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I disagree. IDLE already shows a note -- in the editor window -- with the
first noted divergence from python code marked. We are trying to keep IDLE
relatively simple and not clutter it with trivial options.
ispythonsource is just a guess. The decision
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@Pokerstar: First we have to agree on several things.
1. What is the need, what are the use cases? When do *you* feel a need to clear
the shell?
2. What is the basic strategy?
a. Delete selections: make delete, backspace, and cut work in the shell, as in
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#41075 is specifically about history navigation. I tried Shift/Control/Alt -
Up/Down and none worked. Rebinding just Up/Down did (in Shell, with Editor
unchanged). But not having up/down work to move between lines in the Shell
multiline statement entry
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History and up/down is apart of #2704. It has patches that include the up/down
change, but I don't expect to use any of them as they are.
I tried Shift/Control/Alt - Up/Down and none worked. Rebinding just Up/Down
did (in Shell only, leaving up
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Yes, history works fine with the current bindings to alt-p and alt-n, or with
binding to up or down, but not with binding to modifier-up/down.
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Look at the next subsection for example with 1. and 2.
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Are this and similar issues theoretical ("if Python were implemented on such
systems...") or actual ("python is implemented on one such system (VxWorks?)
and these tests fail"). If the latter, does the test suite pass at least with
resp
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Similar issues:
#41440 os.cpu_count
#41442 unix shell
#41443 some posix.x functions
PR 21684 is fine as far as it goes, and I could merge and backport, but I don't
know about our test policy with respect to need and minimized OSes. We do not
put condi
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Do you know if any core devs have experience with VxWorks? It is not even
listed in https://devguide.python.org/experts/#platforms.
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New changeset ecaf949cc487887883c14dff7a96e09ac9404994 by Nathan M in branch
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bpo-41424: Remove extra words in Tkinter-Packer documentation (GH-21707)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ecaf949cc487887883c14dff7a96e0
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New changeset c36dbac588e1d99975f285a874bb20e9f5040af4 by Ankit Chandawala in
branch 'master':
bpo-41425: Make tkinter doc example runnable (GH-21706)
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bpo-41425: Make tkinter doc example runnable (GH-21706)
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Start IDLE in a Terminal/Command Prompt window with `python -m idlelib`, where
'python` is whatever runs your most recent 3.x python. Then see if an error
message shows up after IDLE exits.
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One should never see this message. As far as I remember, I have seen it only
once in the last several years. It is intended to indicate a 'random'
non-reproducible glitch in the communication machinery connecting the IDLE GUI
process and the
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Thor, in the future, when you reply by email, snip off the messages you are
replying to. When you your message is added to the webpage below the earlier
message, the copy become extraneous noise. Quoting the hidden boilerplate on
PRs is also useless.
For
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The issue resulting in the addition of a "backport-52f9842-3.9" branch to the
main python/cpython repository. I believe that this is a mistake and should be
removed, but I don't know how.
When miss-islington fails to backport for reasons oth
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Since this is a trivial typo fix, I approved the backport for auto-merge.
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I was able to delete the spurious branch because it was not protected.
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This tracker is only for the original English version of the docs. The
translations are by a different group with different tools and workflow. This
page
https://docs.python.org/ja/3/bugs.html#
should not literally translate the instructions for the
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are responding to. It is already present on the web page.
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Since you should print the exception class anyway, I think that using repr
should be sufficient and that this issue should be closed. In any case, the
current behavior does not seem like a bug.
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PR-21771 "Remove test helpers aliases in test.support" was just merged. It
needs an immediate followup to document the new locations of constants and
functions. The now dead entries in test.suppport doc must be moved into new
support module
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On Windows 10: when I start 3.7.8 IDLE in Command Prompt with
C:\Users\Terry>py -3.7 -m idlelib
and try Open Module with 'os.path', I get this traceback in Command Prompt.
Exception in Tkinter callback
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
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Sorry, I forgot that for the website, 3.x means 3.8, which has only 1 x_helper
module. 3.9 has 3 and 3.10 has 7.
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The buildbots were fixed with PR-21785. '#' prefixes an issue on bpo, a PR on
github. Confusing, especially now that PR #s are catching up to issue #s.
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New changeset f2e161c27964a59bc5ab20d96f87ba5862c6222d by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-41468: Improve and test IDLE run error exit (GH-21798)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/f2e161c27964a59bc5ab20d96f87ba
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Already fixed, will be in 3.9.0rc1 (tomorrow) and 3.8.6 (Sept). In meanwhile,
create new files within IDLE with File => New.
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5.0 History list? 1 for all boxes; start fresh each session
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Your reproducer worked to reproduce the bug for me, make the cause obvious, and
test the fix.
Łukasz, it would be good if this test fix made it into the release candidate,
but probably not essential as not too many people will check it for refleaks
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Test error fixed on issue 41514.
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issue 41514 added the new test.
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I just read that the release is tomorrow, so no issue about including this.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Issue 41314 changed the __future__ annotations default version to 3.10.
3.10.0a1 is scheduled for next Oct 5, less than 2 months from now. It would be
good if PR 20434 were merged before that.
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I think we can agree that making the dialogs and in particular the settings
dialog more visually inviting is a good thing. However, two problems are
priority and differing aesthetic opinions. Some thoughts off the top of my
head...
I consider revising tab
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
This 'fix' introduces another regression by undoing the previous fix in issue
40807 of emitting DeprecationWarning (for '\e', for instance) just once instead
of thrice.
I suspect that the example of Matthias would fail in
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Experiments are good, even if not accepted as is.
Python uses American spellings: so 'Colors'.
Moving help sources frees up enough vertical space to reduce the pressure to
split General. It would again fit vertically on my Mac Airbook.
'Win
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The first save fix is in 3.8.5. The second fix is in 3.9.0rc1, released 2 days
ago. In the absence of specific information otherwise, I am assuming that this
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A copy of what I wrote elsewhere.
There are two possible reasons in 3.8.4 and 3.9.0b4 - non-ascii
characters and files created outside of IDLE. Non-ascii chars was fixed
in 3.8.5 and 3.9.0b5. Files created outside of IDLE work in 3.8.6, due
in September and
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New changeset c818b15fa59039de67022c29085d439fa5d3ef95 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/c818b15fa59039de67022c29085d43
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New changeset f24430f1542ea2768793b48704ae2d4e241892ae by Terry Jan Reedy in
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Lukasz, please cherry-pick the 3.9 commits for this issue
90eff4ed4445a0fa9d8cdf74c0f86c50ed510dad
f24430f1542ea2768793b48704ae2d4e241892ae
into 3.9.0rc2 before release.
They fix a regression introduced by a bug fix last June.
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I cannot reproduce from the description. More details: OS and maybe version,
exact Python version (only most recent releases count as completions have been
touched recently), exact key presses and click in which windows. Step 2 should
be irrelevant. Step
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(3.6 only gets security fixes.) Please be more specific: venv produces 6 types
of scripts. Which type(s) are seen as buggy? Can you paste a script produced
by venv and its ShellCheck output? (The web site has a paste-in box.) Have
you used ShellCheck
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If you run in windowed mode, you are expected to either not use sys.stdout or
to provide a working sys.stdout object. I am not sure if that is explicitly
documented as I cannot find python.exe and pythonw.exe or .py or .pyw in the
index and
https
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The global completion list for Shell or Editor comprises keywords (recently
added), builtins, and global names bound by code executed in the current
subprocess. The doc recommends restarting the subprocess when editing so that
the global names are those
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os.environ is initially a copy of the os string-string mapping. That some
string values happen to represent file paths is opaque to the mapping. So, to
me, looking at os.environ by itself, there is no particular reason to
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