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The PR is for 1. The *nix code is a bit clearer without the Windows code in
the middle.
Is there a good reason why when encoding is 'utf-8', errors should be
'surrogateescape' on Windows and 'strict' elsewhere? Surrogateesc
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The main use for the iomenu settings is for the socket-transport file classes,
in run.py. The default encoding='utf-8' and errors='strict' are not used but
are overriden with the iomenu values, or for stderr, 'backslashreplace
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I got the 'within iomenu' part a bit wrong. To open a file to edit,
iomenu.IOBinging('IO').open tells filelist to use IO.loadfile. This reads
bytes 'so that we can handle end-of-line convention ourselves'. (I suspect
that t
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bpo-41152: IDLE: always use UTF-8 for standard IO streams (GH-21214)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/2515a28230b1a011205f30263da6b0
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_maybe_compile currently compiles the possibly complete statement up to 3 times
-- with C-coded compile. Without doing any timing tests, I wondered if 3 times
is really necessary. Nick suggested that using the tokenize module to
determine the number of
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I reread Nick's comment "the C level loop simply blocks on stdin, waiting until
the parser spits out a complete AST." I interpret that now as meaning that the
REPL compiles user code only once per statement, which IDLE and
code.Interac
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At any one time, the language and interpreter sees the local scopes of
enclosing functions as collectively 'nonlocal' for the purpose of accessing and
rebinding. If there are bindings of a name 'x' in multiple enclosing local
scopes, th
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Vedran: "How is that different from saying that "At any one time, the language
and interpreter sees all the scopes as one scope for the purpose of accessing
and rebinding."?"
For access, one may bypass the default staged access by s
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Vedran, thank you for the interesting cultural and linguistic perspective. In
Spanish, "Como te llamas?" (familiar) "Como se llama?" (formal) literally
translate as "What do you call yourself?" (want me to call you?). (I bel
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I wait for backports to be merged before closing. Someone has to approve them
or manually merge them before that happens, so leaving issues open until all
merges are done prevents totally forgetting about them.
For doc issues, the patch, if not drastically
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Removing 'b' and 'u', writelines([s]) and write(s) both now read as s.
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I interpret Serhiy's comment as 'not a bug'. In any case, the linked issue
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With 3.9 on Windows, using Benjamin's example, I do not get the Windows
equivalent of a seg fault. However, execution stops at compile with no
exception, including SystemExit.
These examples amount to limited fuzz testing of compile(). I think it s
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Since you ask, here is a extended summary of namespaces. There is one built-in
namespace. There is one global namespace for each module, which is also the
local namespace for top level code in that module. There is one local
namespace for each class and
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Besides the sentence now revised, the initial post referenced confusion with
'middle scope' in "If a name is declared global, then all references and
assignments go directly to the middle scope containing the module's global
names.
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+1 for import completion. Above, I misspelled 'rlcompleter' as 'rlcomplete'.
When I just tried to import it as part of responding to #41230, the wrong name
did not work. I wish I could have stopped with 'import rl'. To
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Cheryl said "This looks good" on the PR." while noting that True should not be
added as After trying out REPL completions in macOS Terminal, I *really* want
to be able to type 'im' and have 'import' appear. (When there
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
IDLE already has autocomplete of names, attributes, and string paths. This is
documented in the Completion subsection of the Editing and Navigation section
of the doc, easily accessible on the Help menu. Please read the doc before
suggesting enhancements
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fetch_completions code could stand some refactoring. The test should be split
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Normally, tab completion works for attributes (after '.' and a possible prefix)
and files (after os.sep and a possible prefix). Unique matches to prefixes are
immediately selected, as for undotted module names. After changing the
completion wai
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Tal, I suggested the compromise because of your original objection. Since you
think half is worse than all, I will revert the change. It did get me to do a
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PR 15138 always adds keywords to the big list for the current module. They are
also normally present in the small list, when it only excludes '_' names. But
if the module being edited contains '__all__', the small list, which is the
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The removed post duplicates the content of #37766. Another bug is reported and
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The attached tem4.py validates a refactoring of the mode ATTRS, what ''
computation of bigl. The removal of dict 'namespace' invalidates
if "__all__" in bigl:
smalll = sorted(eval(&
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Python internally uses an encoding system that represents all unicode chars
efficiently, including O(1) indexing. It is not utf-8, which does not do O(1)
indexing.
There is already an issue about upgrading (separately) the Python Windows and
macOS
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'master':
bpo-41228: Fix /a/are/ in monthcalendar() descripton (GH-21372)
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Is this actually a bugfix?
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I verified that import symbol works in 3.9 and raises in 3.10. So yes, doc and
its reference should have gone too. Good catch.
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Messages like this are an occasional nuisance when shutting down a tkinter app
started in a terminal/console window. I have gone to a lot of effort to
suppress than in IDLE GUI tests so that other developers do not suffer the
noise or puzzlement of
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You're right. "python3.9 -m tkinter" runs the tkinter widget demo. And python
>= About python brings up 'about tkinter' window. I just deleted 3.7 so I
cannot easily test. 3.8 works also.
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On Windows, with 3.8.4rc1 and 3.8 repository, ^space brings up proper list.
Give more details.
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Neither '1 .bit_length()' (space required) nor '1.3.hex()', both legal syntax,
get either proper completions or call hints. Neither does the erroneous syntax
'1.bit_length'. This suggests that the backwards parsing from th
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Near the bottom of the opening page:
https://devguide.python.org/#status-of-python-branches
The meaning of 'status' is explained elsewhere.
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Calvin, min and max are builtin functions and part of 'Interpreter Core'.
Confusing IDLE with Python is common for beginners who use IDLE. Do you think
I could reduce the confusion by somehow changing the message printed at the top
of She
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
We cannot do anything with this report unless you give exact
keystroke-by-keystroke details and we are able to reproduce the issue. Also,
what OS? If *nix, which? How did you start IDLE?
Unless you start IDLE with -n or explicitly import idlelib, it
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Lib/idlelib contains a startup file 'idle.py' (and 'idle.bat' and 'idle.pyw' on
Windows). IDLE, and I, have no control over the installation of IDLE,
including the addition of system-specific auxiliary startup files and entries
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Although a few keystrokes are omitted, I reproduced the examples and can
explain the results by elaborating on my claims above.
0. Python starts execution in module '__main__', which initially contains only
double underscore names (now 7).
1. I
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
#41300 reports that the new iomenu line 291
enc, _ = tokenize.detect_encoding(io.BytesIO(encoded).readline)
fails without 'import io' added. I should have tested more thoroughly. I will
fix and add t
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Your suggestion is correct.
A side issue is that the line numbers in the traceback are correct but the
quoted text lines from iomenu (and only iomenu) are wrong, being from the line
previous. I will have to investigate this discrepancy.
After the patch
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Łukasz, please pull this simple fix to a 3.9.0b4 and 3.8.4 regression into
3.8.5. It disabled saving files with non-ascii chars.
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bpo-41300: IDLE - save files with non-ascii chars (GH-21512)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/38d3864efe914fda64553e2ec75c9e
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New changeset ffeb9202540c07d384f82ff3ab86c37c1433283a by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.8':
[3.8] bpo-41300: IDLE - save files with non-ascii chars (GH-21512)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ffeb9202540c07d384f82ff3ab86c3
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Łukasz, Please cherry-pick the 3.8 backport, ffeb920, as it has a 3.8-specific
fixup to idlelib/NEWS.txt.
I verified the bug and fix on Windows. I am leaving this open to add automated
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Problem also reported on #41319
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Already fixed. I have asked the fix go in 3.8.5 on Monday.
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宋嘉腾 put 'import io' at the top of idlelib/iomenu.py
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Add 'import io' to the top of /Lib/idlelib/iomenu.py.
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In calling this a duplicate, and suggesting the fix above, I am assuming that
a) you are using the new 3.8.4 and b) you have a non-ascii character in the .py
file or files you tested. Since several years ago, the is the only case of
save failing that I
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I think that the answer is maybe, eventually, and if so, an ioring module that
any event framework can use and a separate asyncio module for its use with
asyncio. I say maybe because the lwn article suggests that additions and
revisions might continue for
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The PEP was accepted apparently by Guido sometime after the second posting
21-Nov-2017. Guido added the annotations entry to __future__ on 1/26/2018 with
the 'mandatory' version changed to 4.0, which means 'some indefinite undecided
futu
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Jean, I sympathize a bit with your wish, but decimal was designed for business,
not science. Sqrt, exp, and 3 versions of log are the only math methods, and
they happen to be the ones with some use in business calculations and
statistics. Extended math
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The current behavior is not a bug as it follows documented behavior. In the
absence of any use for returning values from test functions, I agree that we
should do the simple thing and raise ValueError (I checked and did not find
anything like a
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I think this should be closed as 'rejected'.
1. I am strongly opposed to giving keywords strongly context-dependent
alternate meanings. I also don't think that the proposal could be parsed.
Currently, 'if' introduces a new, i
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
On Windows, right clicking on the desktop produces a context menu with Display
Settings. The dialog has an Orientation pulldown menu with the 4 choices.
Without actually rotating my screen, I clicked Portrait and managed to start
IDLE and click the full
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I found this in Notepad++ under Settings -> Preferences -> Auto-completion ->
Auto-insert with separate checkboxes for (, {, [, ', ", html/xml tags, and up
to 3 custom pairs. Way too elaborate for IDLE. The only question to me is
wheth
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The fix is in both 3.8.5 and 3.9.0b5, both released today.
"print('eyes ∢∢ snake 🐍')", for instance, in the editor, can be saved and run.
(Note that astral chars like the snake disrupt editing a bit, but once there,
can be saved and
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I meant to run 'import tkinter; tkinter.Tk()' directly in python, without IDLE
involved, in your portrait window. Do that by running terminal in the portrait
window. Then try to maximize.
Yes we need more volunteers, but #38946 is an issue bet
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idle-dev list. Create a file in Windows Explorer. Leave as .txt or rename to
.py. Right click and Edit with IDLE 3.8 (.4/.5 or 3.9.0b4 or 5). Edit works,
Save (or Run) does
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New changeset 592527f3ee59616eca2bd1da771f7c14cee808d5 by Zackery Spytz in
branch 'master':
bpo-4630: Fix errors in Lib/idlelib/NEWS.txt (GH-21594)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/592527f3ee59616eca2bd1da771f7c
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#41373 is about another issue with the new iomenu code. I will close this and
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So loading an externally created blank file (on any system) results in None.
File=>New must set eol_convention, I presume to the same default. Before I got
the traceback, I though it might be an issue with the Windows utf-8 BOM being
added.
3.9.0rc1
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Raymond, I tested patch today and expect to apply it (without unittests yet)
tomorrow, so will be in 3.9.0rc1 abd 3.8.6. In the meanwhile, either create
new files within IDLE (File=>NEW) or add "isinstance(self.eol_convention, str)
and " after
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(While I wrote the following, Lewis Ball posted some of the same conclusions.)
0. I verified the failure with 3.8.5 and current master.
1. I reduced the failing example to a minimum of 7 chars on 2 lines.
(
else)
1a. Deleting '\n' or any lette
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matching parentheses, a fix would be to temporarily prepend 'else\n' to the
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