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Let a wcs be a string consisting of only whitespace and comments.
compile(wcs, '', 'exec') treats wcs the same as 'pass'.
Hence, a file with only whitespace and comments is the same as 'pass'.
compile(wcs, '',
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I would probably prefer the table without the '()'s. (I would have to see to
be sure.) However, the entries in the source .rst are all tagged with
':func:', as in ":func:`abs`", and that tag both adds "()" and makes
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the old parser, and is a bit different from the more human readable grammar
given in the reference manual. It is a bit different in 3.9 and I expect will
be much more different
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This is not a security issue.
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Can you attach a script or post an interactive session, with both success and
failure, showing that returncode is set appropriately after reading output?
Possible calls: '''python -c "print('Success')"''',
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By 'intermittantly', do you mean the one time on PR-20236 (and then not on your
retest) or multiple times on various PRs and buildbots?
Serhiy, could the issue be that tk is waiting for an event that has already
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#40722 is about a hang, at least once, on line 147
def test_variable_change(self):
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I listed this failure on the original test_ttk_guionly failure issue.
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Ama, when responding by email, please leave out the full quote of the message
you are responding to. (A snippet of at most a few lines is ok.) Once posted,
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Paul, the doc has the following line
-s run $IDLESTARTUP or $PYTHONSTARTUP before anything else
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I will look at the two changes separately. Spaces could be backported, but
since they are not really typos, there is no real need to. I will compare td
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bpo-37309: Update NEWS.txt for 3.7.8 (GH-20353)
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*Exactly* how are you starting IDLE? This should only happen if you start IDLE
in /usr/bin or edit a file in /usr/bin. Is there any such thing on
Linux/Debian as 'start IDLE from an icon', as on Windows? If so, is the
starting directory part o
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'IDLE' is an application implemented by Lib/idlelib. At least on Windows,
application startup executables (like pip.exe, on Windows) are normally
installed in /Scripts, at least on Windows. What, precisely, in
'installed in /usr/bin'
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for this kind of exception! But that ship has sailed.
I don't understand Giampaolo's comment. If I understand the claim correctly,
the problem is that peopl
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Researching 'nested mainloop': the one we are concerned with is in
pyshell.PyShell.readline, currently line 1078.
self.top.mainloop() # nested mainloop()
This was in David Scherer's 'Initial Revision' of 2000 Aug 14 with
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later reraise just once. I think it a bug that it is not similarly careful
about SyntaxWarning and DeprecationWarning to only emit a particular warning
just once.
Cheryl
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Since the default has been different on different systems for as long as I
remember, I see no reason to break code on *nix in the name of 'consistency'.
Asyncio also works different on different systems.
Aside from that idea, is there anything
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Thanks for the report. I verified the context menu defect on Windows and Mac
Mohave. The menu and shortcuts still work on both.
This regression was introduced by the first PR for #39885. I mistakenly
delayed the fixer, PR-18951, to finish new tests. (On
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hang.py uses the default multiprocessing start method, which was then 'fork'.
It is now 'spawn' on macOS. And there have been many other changes. When I
run the following from IDLE, it finishes immediately.
import multiprocessi
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gmane was down for maybe a day early this week. We should expect this to
continue happening on and off, as it has for years (I use it daily). I suggest
that we run the test when we can and skip (or connect elsewhere) when we cannot.
try:
s = NNTP
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I verified that running tests for installed 64-bit 3.9.0b1 on Win10 is somewhat
a joke. I got 22 failures. Multiple tests failed on missing
_testinternalcapi, and at least 1 on _xxtestfuzz. Several tests had multiple
failures and would need to be run
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I make 5 core developers who agree that csv should definitely *not* assume that
bytes given to it represent encoded text, reverting to the confusion of Python
1 and 2. (And even it if did, it should not assume that the encoding of the
given to it and the
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Something rebuilds the online docs once a day. That same something might be
appropriate for running a link checker (including external links) once a week,
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Sorry, but I believe you were misdirected*. mock, as opposed to unittest.mock,
pytest, flask, and werkzeug are 3rd party modules. The error report seems to
be missing part of the stacktrace at both ends. What line is your file
resulted in the error
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To review: Serhiy reported 3 'IDLE' bugs: tripled DeprecationWarning (now
joined by SyntaxWarning), printing to console (if available) instead of Shell,
and an exit exception.
1. Codeop generates the tripicates; #40807 will fix that.
2. PR-15
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The new items can be new issues, with 6 maybe the highest priority. Currently
:1: DeprecationWarning: invalid escape sequence \e
becomes
Warning (from warnings module):
File "", line 1
'\e'
DeprecationWarning: invalid escape sequenc
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Hi.
In docs :
https://docs.python.org/3/faq/programming.html#faq-argument-vs-parameter it
says "Parameters define what types of arguments a function can accept."
This is not true. Python's functions do not impose any type checking or raise
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Hi. Thanks for your follow-up. I created a PR, since I signed CLA today, the PR
has some labels indicating it. :p
Thanks
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Chris, I see no evidence in the *incomplete* traceback not posted here that
there is a bug in mock. Mock calls "hasattr(obj, '__func__') and apparently
flask, called via werkzeug, answers 'RuntimeError'. The overt bug is that
cal
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The line number sidebar colors are already user configurable. We expected
preferences for this to be as diverse as for anything else. I changed them on
my custom dark theme to dark blue on light blue, but I don't expect anyone else
to like that.
No
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things I would like to change) the answer has generally been that we should
not, a) because it would be too disruptive, including affecting exiting
customizations, and b) because
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The purpose of code and codeop is to imitate interactive python in python.
Calling compile() thrice is an implementation detail. Exposing that is a bug.
On #37824, Serhiy reported 3 'IDLE' bugs for 3.7 to 3.9: tripled
DeprecationWarning (now
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I am not sure if 3 compiles are always needed. At one time, compile required a
final '\n' to not raise, but that is no longer true. And as near as I can
tell, 'code without final newline\n' and 'code without final newline\n\n&
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bpo-40807: Show warnings once from codeop._maybe_compile (#20486)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/052d3fc0907be253cfd64b2c737a0b
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Irv also posted to idledev, where he explained his particular need: He teaches
a class with assignment to write a .py file with certain behavior. Submissions
are in 1 directory. He would like to double-click to load a file and F5 to run
it. Currently, he
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[3.8] bpo-40807: Backport test_codeop change [GH-19670]
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New changeset 12d3061c7819a73d891dcce44327410eaf0e1bc2 by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.7':
[3.8] bpo-40807: Backport test_codeop change [GH-19670]
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/12d3061c7819a73d891dcce4432741
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This is a spinoff of #37824.
My above comments about compile are wrong. The example nests '' within ''.
And, with freshly compiled master, I found an example where Deprecation
warning, but not SyntaxWarning, accompanies SyntaxError
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On Windows: works in installed 3.8.3, fails in 3.9.0b1. Works in freshly
compiled 3.9 and master. The patch seems to have worked. Mark, is there any
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Adding rstrip as it was then was done over a decade ago, and this issue was
closed then. Improvements, as discussed immediately above have been added with
other issues, or will be. I am rejecting the add-on idea of incorporating
reindent.py as unneeded
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I am not sure what to do with this. The addition of squeezer to Shell and
ability to expand into textview makes this a bit less needed. It would have to
be rewritten. It seems big, but a large part is revision of tests, which have
since been moved to
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The py launcher now prefered since at least a year ago. I believe the
installer has the requested box. Hovering over taskbar icons pops up the
version, and I think they now survive upgrades. (And none of these are idlelib
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Problems with multiprocessing and tkinter on Mac might have been due to using
the default start method, which used to be fork and is now spawn. This should
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Deprecation has been done and a message is printed under the splash screen.
With 5 more years of maintenance experience under deprecation, I have not
experienced -n mode as a maintenance burden. So I have no inclination at
present to remove it (or even
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The IDLE Dark theme has been added and I use it routinely. Ttk widgets,
including frames, are AFAIK used everywhere possible. We are not yet using ttk
styles to configurable colors, but I would expect that the default style should
always be viewable. My
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Tab completions may be suffixed with ' ' (keywords), ':' (keywords)*, or '('
(callables) if one of those is required. Ex. 'import ', 'finally:', 'len('.
Attributes may get '('. The p
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40892 Use prefixes from rlcompleter. Compute constant once.
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I opened #40892 for using rlcomplete suffixes.
I should look as #25419 for patch and messages for import ideas.
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There was a recent stackoverflow question in which newbie pulled shell log into
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Steve, is this out of date or still something that could be done in the code we
control? Would you review and possibly merge a patch is submitted? (I don't
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After doing away with most of the flashes, we started adding tests using key
and mouse event_generate, which seemed to require a visible GUI. So the goal
seems a lost cause. If I revisit, a new issue.
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Serhiy add IDLE Modern Unix a couple of years ago. Something similar is still
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In #36429, the 'else' branch that did not work was deleted.
The reason __import__ is discouraged is the reason for the repetition of 'run',
in the line kept, as explained above. However, since the line works, it is not
a bug, and I no
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Open on macOS Mohave now has an All files * filter option, and opening *.def is
easy. If not true on every Mac still getting new versions of Python, too bad.
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