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New changeset 762fe7deed34a1d5294bf82071d318c8427b4893 by Zackery Spytz in
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#43186, #43187 also have recursive code that fails in 3.9 and recovers in 3.10.
Am closing them in favor of this. Also suspect #43188, #43189, #43190 are
duplicates. Yang, recheck after Mark does the backport here
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Python consistently uses American (USA) vocabulary and spellings for its
English. Anyone over, say, 14, should learn them to the extent used in Python.
Kids under 10 are different.
Issue 24990 was rejected because it proposed to hardcode translation. A
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PS: when replying via email, please delete post you are responding to. When
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This is a Windows installer code issue rather than an IDLE code issue. On
Win10, I do not see jump lists for IDLE icons but do for several others.
Perhaps the installer was changed to disable the non-functional lists. I will
let the installer people
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Eryk, thank you for the research. Our macOS installer already adds an
'idlex.y' executable. Ned, do you have any comments, pro or con, about doing
so.
(I worry a bit about reinforcing the beginner delusion that IDLE is Python or
that IDL
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events happen. Recognizing UI events is handled between the OS window manager
and tcl/tk. So I am sure this is not an IDLE issue.
For another application to affect the Linux-tcl
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ideal. 'Inconsistent' has too much baggage as bad'. I would prefer to call
the current rule 'restricted' or 'limited' and judge any ex
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This seemingly random error involved completions and there is already an issue
about them not working right on macOS. It was also opened by Raymond as a
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title: IDLE: Explain print slowness and speedup method
type: enhancement
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slower than in REPL. I did further tests that showed than combining
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bpo-43283: Rearrange some IDLE doc paragraphs. (GH-24604)
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>From the merge:
+++ b/Doc/library/unittest.rst
@@ -330,7 +330,9 @@ Test modules and packages can customize test loading and
discovery by through
the `load_tests protocol`_.
.. versionchanged:: 3.4
- Test discovery supports :term:`namespace packa
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Candra: This is neither a help forum nor a free programming service. It is a
workspace for improving the CPython distribution of Python. CPython does not
run on Android. Anything to do with Android is off-topic here. Please do not
reopen this again or
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bpo-43283: Add IDLE doc paragraph about print speed (GH-24615)
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bpo-43283: Add IDLE doc paragraph about print speed (GH-24615) (GH-24632)
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Everything before x.y.0 is in one section. Multiple sections thereafter are a
nuisance. Idea: Put everything thereafter in one also. So file is set once
header revised after 3.x.0 is released.
Thought of 'x.y.z: date' separator, with one line
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bpo-41841: Revise header (GH-24633)
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[3.8] bpo-41841: prepare for 3.8.9 (GH-24635)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/653e17b2cb35e6cd48e2bdca0c1b27
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Private attributes are not documented because they are private and subject to
change. Their use is at one's own risk. I don't know mock well enough to
understand 'inconsistent' or comment on the change proposal.
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Yehuda, one can also ask questions like this on python-list.
In the future, when responding by email, please delete the message being
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I think that we should just document the use of the new key parameter (and
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You marked 3.7 here, which only gets security patches, but submitted a PR for
master, which is appropriate for enhancements. ('backport' here on the tracker
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This issue was opened with 2 related facts of 2017:
a) sys.executable is not normalized
b) as a result, two tests failed
Serhiy then said "I don't know what is wrong: the value of sys.executable or
the test." If it was the tests, they seem to
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Completions are in a Listbox. listboxes are used for completions, stackviewer,
and a few places in the settings dialog, in particular the keys list. And
maybe the drop down list for themes and keysets. The latter two are the only
one normally gray. Try
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Starting interactive code input on a new line is intentional and not a bug.
IDLE has other code to keep user program output separate from user code input,
as when there is delayed asynchonous output. I plan to do more work to keep the
two separate
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I don't know how many core devs would agree that inserting '\n' would be
preferable. They might say that users who want clean interaction should not
use the 'end' parameter the way you did in interactive mode.
IDLE is more aime
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I changed the title to what a PR/commit title should look like. Your
justification is that "Multiple writes possibly cause excessive network usage
and increased implementation complexity on the other end."
I see no problem with the formatting of
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This tracker is only concerned with the PSF/python.org Windows and macOS
installers, not the *nix distributions, so I assume that one the former is your
concern.
For those, your request has been made and rejected multiple times before. A
request on the
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Victor and/or Serhiy: This and #43360 and #43361 are similar 1-line changes,
suggested by scan-build, to eliminate dead or duplicate initializations in C
code. Can either of you either handle these or suggest someone else? Would we
have preferred 1 issue
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I unlinked the preliminary versions of the code minimized in the 3 post.
The posted code is buggy: it opens a file and then start an infinite loop. It
has to be interrupted someway, and the file may not be properly closed and
flushed to disk. When I make
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#43163 was about the opposite problem of raising SyntaxError too soon, when a
valid continuation to imcomplete code is possible. As with that issue, IDLE
has the same problem, which is not in code.interact() itself but in
codeop._maybe_compile..
Calling
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Adrian, when responding by email, please delete the copy of the email you are
responding to, except maybe a line or two, as it is redundant when posted on
the web page.
Have you tried forums where there might be other Apple app developers with
similar
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On both Windows and macOS Mohave with both 3.9 and 3.10 I get normal behavior.
If it were not for the $ python3.x line, the missing '... ' in Romain's output
would have suggested that he was using IDLE. But IDLE should accept pasted
ascii
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New changeset ff5f05934db241dfafc604989b2de3487b09ca82 by Alex Willmer in
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bpo-43407: Clarify comparisons of time.monotonic() et al results (GH-24757)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ff5f05934db241dfafc604989b2de3
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Add compile(..., mode='repl')?
"If mode is 'repl', compile returns None to indicate that the code is
incomplete as is but might become valid if more lines (or maybe just more code)
were added"
Deprecate _maybe_compil
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This has been debated for 15 years see #1207613. The current patch, which only
displays a scrollbar when needed, 'works', but in a way that is not visually
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I ran your tkinter code on Windows, without IDLE, and the clipboard was clear
thereafter. I added 'test.mainloop()' and observed the following.
1. Close immediately, clipboard is clear, as before.
2. Paste 'Testing again' into 'tex
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SO duplicate.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61310989/python-idle-importing-xlrd-error-generated-in-debug-mode-attributeerror-mo
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After reporting my experiments above, msg369334, I made further failing efforts
to simulate pasting into another process, as in 3 and 4. It might be that a
concrete key event is needed. So I strongly suspect that the solution for IDLE
is indeed a tkinter
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The #if 0 was added by Guido in 43ff8683fe68424b9c179ee4970bb865e11036d6 in
1998, before the tcl/tk clip fix for Windows.
* Temporarily get rid of the registration of Tcl_Finalize() as a
low-level Python exit handler. This can attempt to call Python code
at
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This is not really an IDLE issue; I only tagged it as such to make it easy for
IDLE users to find. It might or not be a python-install Catalina-upgrade
issue. It definitely is an Apple issue in that they care little for Python,
nothing for tcl/tk, and
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The issue is still open. The basic idea is to treat list, set, and dict in
parallel fashions in the docs, mostly copying what is done with lists for the
other two. In my original post, the title and items 1 to 3 are about index
entries in Reference chapter
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I wrote the above before your PR was listed here. I will review it a piece at
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import test.test_idle as ti
import unittest as u
u.main(ti)
has one failure:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Programs\Python39\lib\idlelib\idle_test\test_autocomplete.py", line
230, in test_fetch_completions
if __main__.__fi
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'Not working' reports lacking information needed to respond, whether to help
the reporter of fix a bug, are a common beginner mistake. The problem is
especially acute for IDLE since it is especially targeted at beginners, who may
not know the
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When I say that I am 99% sure that this is not an IDLE issue at all, I mean
that I am 99% sure that a non-IDLE tkinter program registered as a working
double-click handler in Mohave will not be properly invoked in Catalina. A
counter-example might suggest
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3.5 and 3.6 only get security fixes.
#6143 proposes to add special mechanism to clear Shell. It is a low priority
for me as I very seldom want to, or if a editor is open, one can close the
shell and start over when running the editor file.
Clear an editor
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Discussed on #23220. Note that 'sciencecomputer' is a different possible
result if \r does not switch the simulated terminal from the normal insert mode
to overwrite mode. I am considering terminal simulation as an option, but
there is not
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Go ahead. Since the failure was user visible, there should be a note. For IDLE
issues, idlelib/NEWS.txt also needs an addition, but not until ready to merge.
So add a trial blurb or not as you wish. In any case, I need to fix the 3.8
version and perhaps
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I agree that finding the online doc is slight pain. It is not listed in the
Modules index because idlelib, not IDLE, is the stdlib module, and does not
have a doc page. I may add one or, if possible, make the page serve as one, as
part of this issue
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Note that 'sciencecomputer' is a different possible result if \r does not
switch the simulated terminal from the normal insert mode to overwrite mode. I
am considering terminal simulation as an option in IDLE, but there is not
exactly a standard
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I am considering terminal simulation as an option, but there is not exactly a
standard to emulate. \b originally meant the same as the typewrite backspace
and modern US computer keyboard left arrow key <- (move cursor left without
erasing), which wo
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YoSTEALTH, are you both allowed and willing to do so? The patch is not
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