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#33987 was reopened, 4 patches merged and backported, and reclosed.
This is only open for other possible refinements listed above.
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I looked at all 4 hooks.
sys.breakpointhook is invoked by breakpoint() in user code, so is not IDLE's
concern at present.
sys.unraiseablehook is invoked by the interpreter when user code messes up
badly, so is not IDLE's condern. (And it is
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Andre: while I would like friendlier tracebacks available in IDLE without 3rd
party installation, I doubt this will happen soon. In the meanwhile, I see
that you are working to polish Friendly Traceback with a friendly contest. I
presume FT uses
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Ken: I will probably work on tests, perhaps as a followup or parallel issue. I
will likely do a bit or refactoring to make testing easier.
I just looked at print_exception and discovered that the double traceback can
likely by handled by properly setting
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If I understand correctly, this is open for someone to evaluate Eryk's
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The question in the issue for tokenizer and virtual newlines is mimicking the C
tokenizer versus consistency between and within token 5-tuples.
As a tokenizer user, I would lean toward consistency but it is definitely not
my call.
https://github.com/python
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This should likely be closed as 3rd party
zjdavid Which python release, which macOS, which installer, which tk
patchlevel? (IDLE Help=>About displays it).
At least one of the 3.9.1 python.org mac installers installs 8.6.10. We cannot
be responsible
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Patrick, I am not sure what you are saying. All the methods listed is this
section are for both, as with
bytes.count(sub[, start[, end]])
bytearray.count(sub[, start[, end]])ΒΆ
but only bytearray has .copy (since there is never a need to copy an
immutable
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What system, what errors (copy-paste failure blocks)?
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Andre: with this patch, you could potentially add a function or submodule that
would point sys.excepthook to a function that would print the exception and
then interact before returning. If this worked, one could add, for instance,
'i
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Ken, I read on another issue that an exception in an except suite is
automatically linked to the caught exception, though the printed result may not
be exactly the same. Once your CLA is 'activated', I will experiment with th
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Questions should be asked on Q&A forums, like python_list.
Check Removed section of What's New in 3.10.
https://docs.python.org/3.10/whatsnew/3.10.html#removed
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Tal, just so you know in case you see a resulting merge conflict. I've been
waiting for years to do these until most PRs were closed. Has not happened,
and annoyances continue.
Since there is no search option I can find to search for PRs with a
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Josh, you are right. I closed the PR. Before closing, I will think about
whether to propose a change to make this more prominent.
I notice the issubclass(array.array, collections.abc.MutableSequence ) is True
even though some of the methods (like clear
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5. Extraneous () after class name in class header: 'class name():'. Never done
in idlelib itself, 27 in test files, mostly in 1 file.
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Delete 2. 'list' is needed if for-suite mutates the dict all 6 either directly
or maybe indirectly do so. Not worth checking unless otherwise editing the
function.
6. N unneeded .keys() (out of 13 occurrences) when iterating dict. Low
priori
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bpo-43013: Update idlelib code to 3.x (GH-24315)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8dfe15625e6ea4357a13fec7989a0e
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New changeset 63ebba0d9430a0bc18fd8551ad27b9b25709a4be by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.8':
bpo-43013: Update idlelib code to 3.x (GH-24315) (#24317)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/63ebba0d9430a0bc18fd8551ad27b9
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Interesting. I would prefer to make fewer changes per pre-PR branch commit,
but I see from the doc that I could split changes into at least 4 batches from
the existing options. Has this been run/tested on projects better tested than
IDLE? Anyway
7. Run
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bpo-43013: Fix old tkinter module names in idlelib (GH-24326)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/879986d8a932c4524cb6ff822afc95
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PR for 3. For 2.x, tkinter comprised several modules that became tkinter
submodules. For 3.0, 'import tkOld' was replaced by 'import tkinter.new as
tkOld', where 'new' is lowercase version of 'Old'. Fix remaining in
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turtledemo currently requires a couple of modules from idlelib. One to syntax
color examples, another to display the help file. So turtledemo would have to
be patched if IDLE were separate from tkinter
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/26af2fae189629d22a87aaf01b92d6
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There are about 40 open PRs with 'idle' or 'idlelib' in title. I only found 2
or 3 with merge conflicts related to this issue -- and they are easy to fix.
There are more conflicts from other patches (some fixed). These are usually
m
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[3.9] bpo-41841: Prepare IDLE NEWS for 3.9.2 (#GH-4343)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/fd668bc62b7f6de95448344b6650e1
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[3.8] bpo-41841: Prepare IDLE NEWS for 3.8.8 (GH-24344)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a178473dd6a3b527a67ab3f9dc38ef
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'master':
bpo-43008: Make IDLE respect sys.excepthook (GH-24302)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/7a34380ad76f5ad50d4175ceb2
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Ken, for next time -- there is a separate News category for IDLE.
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I hope this is not your last contribution. Another hint: if one uses issue
12643 or #12643, then the tracker makes the link -- and strikes it out if
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The answer, Aviral discovered, is that current ast nodes have end_lineno
attributes, so the patch amounts to consistently copying them.
I don't understand Aviral's use case either, but an item on my IDLE wish list
is to be able to move class an
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If IDLE were to recalculate the end from start, it would have to more or less
parse forward to find the end of the statement. This is why I considered it a
speculative wish.
> would `end_lineno=None` make any sense?
Only as a kludge if a default w
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9. As of now, values are not named, whereas I believe they are in debugger. IE
given def f(a,b,c): 1/0; f(1,2,3), viewer prints unlaabelled 1, 2, 3 on
separate lines.
Also, the representation of a value may not fit on a line. I believe a current
debugger
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Judging from the link you posted to version numbering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B#Internal_version_numbering
the first line should have 'MSVC 14.28' the middle column title should be 'MS
Visual Studio'.
Mark
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bpo-23544: Disable IDLE Stack Viewer when running user code (GH-17163)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/23a567c11ca36eedde0e119443c85c
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in branch '3.8':
bpo-23544: Disable IDLE Stack Viewer when running user code (GH-17163) (#24366)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/901a9834420e516c07d6cad356d2be
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Tal, I agree with you.
The debugger is an execution controller with an optional current-frame viewer
updated whenever execution is paused. It displays both name and value. I
believe a current PR addresses the issue of value representations being
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branch 'master':
bpo-43008: Add 'Patch by Ken Hilton' (GH-24370)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/11d75ec807f05eff1148
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in branch '3.9':
bpo-43008: Add 'Patch by Ken Hilton' (GH-24370) (#24374)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/bf782b2636880dd63428
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I think you meant assertEqual(len(alist), len(set(alist))). I agree with
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-17/3 = -5.667 = -6.0 + .333. It is the latter
fraction that gets discarded.
However, this is a frequent source of confusion. How about adding
>>> -17 // 3
-6
>>> -17 % 3
1
>>> -6 * 3 + 1
-17
to illus
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Making str(td) == td.name does not seem useful. I think this should be closed
as 'Not a bug', because it isn't. If changed to an enhancement request, reject
as insufficiently warranted against the likely breakage.
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The sentence you quoted ends a paragraph that begins with a sentences saying
the same thing even more clearly. "The execution of a function introduces a
new symbol table used for the local variables of the function." I think the
ending sentenc
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With 3.9, exc.py produces for me
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "F:\Python\a\tem3.py", line 3, in f
raise ValueError('hello')
ValueError: hello
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceba
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For 4.2, the point is the '.copy()' versus the 'active_users' copy. I think a
real beginner would, or should, ignore any other details not immediately
familiar.
4.7.2 Keyword arguments. It is simply a fact that including the f
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New changeset 000cde59847beaf5fa7b73633e1f3c898fe5bf90 by Aviral Srivastava in
branch 'master':
bpo-38307: Add end_lineno attribute to pyclbr Objects (GH-24348)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/000cde59847beaf5fa7b73633e1f3c
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Zachery, thank you for the PR to test. It turns out that the proposed change
is more dangerous the the possible error it prevent. I could have easily
missed the problem (not setting __file__, see PR).
Before considering this again, I need to list ways to
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Ramond, any opinion on this? We could just close this, but I consider either
alternative enough of an improvement to write a PR and merge it.
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IDLE also caches shell input. Off topic here, I sent Andre an email about how
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The change in 3.10 is installing tk 8.6.11 instead of 8.6.8. This would have
been or would be backported if and only if Ned and Ronald think it both
possible and wise. As with most tkinter issues, this affects IDLE but is not
an IDLE issue as such. The
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3.7 is a few years old and only gets security fixes. Can you either test on
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This issue appears to be quite different from #34047. The latter partly
involved two then recent tcl/tk versions known to still be buggy on Mac. It
then determined to be directly a matter of how IDLE was interpreting the delta
attribute of tk mousewheel
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bpo-16781: In 'exec' doc, add 'nonlocal' to 'yield' and 'return' (GH-2446)
https://github.com/python/cpyth
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PR is based on 'Note:...' directly above. I am still thinking about a patch
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bpo-16781: In 'exec' doc, add 'nonlocal' to 'yield' and 'return' (GH-2446)
https://github.com/python/cpyth
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I verified that there are two discrepancies in IDLE versus the standard REPL on
Windows with 3.10.0a5. The latter first (which does not converted warnings to
errors).
Python 3.10.0a4+ (heads/master:0332e569c1, Feb 1 2021, 09:19:58) [MSC v.1900
64 bit
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#43151 asked about 'is ' syntax warnings in REPL. Discussion noted
that IDLE Shell does note print it for "x is 'a'" (known here) and that for "if
x is 'a': print('executed')" there is a syntax
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webbrowser is 'generous' at to what browsers it will open, some of which are
not what hardly anyone would want. So I would call this an 'enhancement'
(really 'disenchantment', like all removals;-) unless there were a technical
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IDLE is a Python program that wraps the Python interpreter. Before blaming
IDLE for how code is executed, one should first execute the same code directly
in Python. The example above shows that one should also try code.interact,
especially for
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test.test_codeop's test_incomplete is incomplete in that it tests several
missing-closer single lines, like the above and "[x for x in (", all of which
pass, but no corresponding multiple line snippets, like the above. The only
multiple li
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I agree with the idea and Matthew's version. This continuing problem is worth
doing experiments. I marked this as 'enhancement' and 3.10 only because this
might break code that hardcodes the complete name. This might also,
unfortunately,
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Yes, the program title depends on what 'app' you start. I presume that this is
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A 300 KB file of unknown type that has to be downloaded and opened with an
unknown program is pretty useless. Please state system/OS, exact Python
release, command run, and copy-paste the errors here on the web page.
I do not see test_embed or
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This issue is for 3.10 only since the never-closed message was only added for
3.10.0a5 and not backported.
Pablo, Is there any sane possibility that the compiler could, at least
sometimes, raise an IncompleteSyntax subclass of SyntaxError when code is
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Following-up on discussion in #43163 and PR-24483, this issue is limited to
changes that are expected to not affect the return value. Therefore, do not
backport unless and until needed as part of a bugfix.
First is moving the code return to immediately
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bpo-43202: Immediately return code object in codeop._maybe_compile (GH-24508)
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https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/controlflow.html#defining-functions
I decided to augment the sentence as suggested by Jesse, and see what any
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When using >python synth.py in the directory
google-api-java-client-services-master
python returns:
synthtool > Cloning
https://github.com/googleapis/discovery-artifact-manager.git.
synthtool > Cleaning output directory.
Traceback (most re
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When system? It appears to be some *nix. Is this a buildbot?
Whose tcl/tk? Distributed with system or locally compiled?
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Eryk, are you suggesting that this should be closed as 'Not a bug'?
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3.7 and before only get security fixes.
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On freshly compiled master on Win10, the example code gives "TypeError:
unhashable type: 'dict'".
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After a week without response, I consider making a PR open to anyone. Whoever
should add "Original patch by ..." in the message part.
The patch is obvious enough that I would be willing to merge if no one else.
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It seems to me that print_exception(None), etc, *should* raise something.
Printing "NoneType: None\n" makes no sense to me since NoneType is not an
exception. In 3.9, it raised TypeError for # of arguments.
I do note t
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unraiseable hook is not needed. The REPL does:
>>> sys.excepthook = lambda: None
>>> 1/0
Error in sys.excepthook:
TypeError: () takes 0 positional arguments but 3 were given
Original exception was:
Traceback (most recent call last):
F
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You immediate questions are answered. Adding 128 bit floats to Python itself
need a discussion on python-ideas and very likely a PEP. Maybe a decade?
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