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For me, on Mac, only the 3rd 'def', on line 4, changes to blue, the default
highlight for defined names (those immediately following 'def' or 'class').
This is because deleting the '#' causes recoloring from there
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
This issue was closed as useless for Firefox in 2010 by the original poster,
msg109958. My participation here is only as tracker triager, as I only have a
consumer knowledge of cookies. Unfortunately, there is no core developer
expert for http, let alone
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The PEP is listed as accepted, with you as the BDFL-delegate, but it lacks a
link to the public acceptance message (usually on pydev list).
The PR was not rejected by a core dev but was closed without explanation by the
author on the same day the last
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The uploaded .png has the traceback. (Pasting it into the post would have been
fine and a bit easier for all of us.) The error occurred when IDLE's config
tried to load the user config files, ~/.idlerc/config-xyz.cfg. (~ is usually
C:/Users/you
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I want this left open to fix IDLE exiting instead of continuing. The original
IDLE authors could not anticipate all the things that users around the world
(and OS developers) might do, and we maintainers are still plugging holes as
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I presume you mean the Mac Bootcamp program that allows one to run Windows on
Macs. I don't know if it runs *all* Windows programs or whether we
specifically support running Windows python under Bootcamp. I imagine that
there might be problems with
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After reading through the comments, I don't think we should change
repr(complex) unless there is computational issue, such as eval(repr(z) != z.
Raymond, I agree with your overlooked doc tweek. If you submit a PR, you can
ask me to r
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It would be bizarre if the current doc were correct, but have you verified by
experiment that the change is correct?
The patch itself would be trivial, hence the keyword addition. PR author can
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'their website' == Apple's website? Homebrew's? Microsoft's? What about the
Windows installer from python.org?
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I think we are at the point where the General tab needs to be split into 2
tabs, or else widened. On my Macbook, the bottom buttons are not visible.
One of the constraints of any change is that .idlerc/config-main.cfg remain
compatible with older releases
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Yes, simple typo. I need to look at test_Zzdummy.py to see if it should have
been failing with the typo. If this is executed, the end index must be 1 so
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'Windows', not 'Window'.
The indentation width should be moved to the Window page after being converted
and reduced to a single line with a spinbox or maybe just an entry box.
Indent spaces (standard 4) [ 4] # or
Convert tab indents to
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I would be more interested in being able to launch IDLE's visual debugger
(likely after some revision) so I would want the hook to be general (as
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See #36825 about making TextCase argument aware.
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Since test modules can already be run in parallel, #37873 does not seem
relevant here. (And I agree with the intent of that.)
I would be reluctant to add a mechanism with no current use, so I would not
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The inconsistency might be a residue of the transition from 2.x. But the 'r'
versus 'rt' confusion originates in the code and signature. The text 't'
default is built into the code, while the read 'r' default is in
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Thank you for noticing. As of this moment, http://www.python.org/about/help/
has 3 links to the https://github.com/python/pydotorg/issue repository and
issue tracker, which contains the website. Website issues (as opposed to
docs.python.org) should be
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Sequences 'a' and '1' are unambiguously interpreted as abbreviating
'' and '', and similarly for any other printable ascii
char. '' is interpreted also as '', but there is no reason to
add the
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OS? in case it matters
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This is not clearly a good idea. Lists and tuples with same contents do not
compare equal, although set and frozenset do. I suggest that you post this
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There have been issues about SyntaxError line pointing. Someone should test
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Thank you Dennis. I was just about to post that after installing 3.8.3rc1 and
3.9.0a6 in a Macbook Air, with identical idlelib code, I confirmed the problem
as specific to 3.9 and that
$ python3.9 -X oldparser -m idlelib
works around the issue. My python
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Module 'autoexpand' has a class 'AutoExpand' imported by editor.py near the
top. After rechecking the editor and config code, I am sure that the only way
editor line 1115 could try to import *module* AutoExpand is if either
idlelib/conf
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Since the help sources extend the Help menu, putting them under Extensions
makes some sense. But I don't know how many people would think to look at the
tab. But something to keep in mind. We can also ask for user opinions on
idle-dev list.
Note
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The commit referenced above is for #33578. The symptoms for that issue were
very similar, including involving a cjk codec. The change was not backported
because it was seen an enhancement. Rob, if you try 3.8.2 or 3.8.3 (the
release candidate was out
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Everything from AutoComplete onwards has been added somehow and must be removed.
The preliminary version of 3.8.3 was released last Wednesday. When the final
version is released in a week or two, I recommend upgrading and getting the
untouched .def files
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1. What OS and for Windows/Mac, version?
2. What Python release and from where and how installed?
If not latest release of x.y, where x.y >= 3.7, consider upgrading.
3. Tcl/tk version (see Help => About IDLE?
4. How start IDLE?
5. What is a the m
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I don't like the red Python in asdl2. Just black, perhaps bold, would be
better. Also I like the darker blue in asdl.py, bold or not. Better contrast
to me from the greens. But I agree that grape is too clashy.
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As I said above, the example was removed from 3.x. At some point, they were
all vetted for Windows execution or failure.
Zach, thanks for reviewing 2.7 issues.
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I tried both a laptop and desktop and slightly prefer unbolded. How about a
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Zain, what I understand is:
> python3.8 -m idlelib # To open idle from Terminal
In IDLE, File=>New, then File=>SaveAs
In dialog opened to Documents, enter name in Save As box, then click Save.
For me 2012? Macbook Air with 10.14.6? Mohave and 3.8.3rc
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python-list mailing list, mail.python.org, is one good place to ask "Is this a
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Use git to find out who previously edited the file and request reviews from at
least a couple. The 2 recommendations on the PR may be based on that, but good
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I verified that 3.8 puts the caret under '|', and agree that this is bug that
should be fixed at least in a new version. Other such bugs have been fixed in
the past.
tk Text widgets have 1-based line numbers and 0-based column numbers. The
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I am rather sure that test.support is going to remain private. So the concrete
proposal should be to move them into the unittest package somewhere, perhaps in
a new unittest.utils/support/helpers module, for battle-tested helper functions.
I strongly
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The proposal should include the idea that the functions in test.support be
replaced with
from unittest.helpers import * # or
from unittest.helpers import captured_stdin, ...
so that a) no other changes need be made to existing tests and b) the
possibility
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Missing docstrings are almost a bug, but I am not sure if we backport additions.
This needs the attention of a coredev to review, approve, and merge, but there
is no particular 'webbrowser' maintainer. If no one shows up, you might use
git to
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When I click Full Disk Access in Mohave, I see an empty box with a Header
something like "All app to access Mail, ..., and all user data". None of it
has anything obviously to do with the user Documents folder. Nor does it seem
appropriate for
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
What is acting up here is the Catalina system SaveAs dialog on some systems
with some settings when closing after being asked to display the current
contents of the target location, allow the content to be variously filtered or
not, and add a default
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Except is isn't, as he has been inactive for years. Git log may or may not
show more recent commits. My dev machine is being repaired but should be back
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I just got my development machine back, so I will handle this. I first
determined that code and doc are same in all 3 versions (except for audit event
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Current open doc:
https://docs.python.org/3.9/library/webbrowser.html#webbrowser.open
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I asked about other people's experiences on python-list and got 2 responses so
far.
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folder con
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This is known, has been discussed on previous issues (can't find numbers now),
and is not a bug. Your code outputs a stream of 21 characters to 'file'
sys.stdout, which for code executed by IDLE is, by default, directed to Shell.
The effec
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branch 'master':
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ef7973a981ff8f4687ef3fdb85a69f
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I am working on an explanation of why I paused the PR.
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Mat Wichmann responded
"we had three of these in the last few weeks sent to
webmas...@python.org. I just went back and pinged those folks with a
request to look in on the issue, and contribute to it if they had
anything new/useful t
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Raymond, can you run the tests I suggested above?
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By 'preview', I meant the listing of existing file in the directory, such as
Documents. IDLE displays this but, as I inferred and you and Bev confirmed,
this is not standard on macOS, as there is a button (which I did not noticed
before) to sh
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Does the example code (which should be posted here) still hang?
If so, automated tests that hang indefinitely on failure are a nuisance. A
revised example that failed after, say, a second would be better.
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Serhiy, I am nosying you because you have worked on argument issues in the last
year.
Minimal example: def f(a, *, b): pass. In 3.9.0a6,
>>> f(1,2) # ... Same as 5 years ago.
TypeError: f() takes 1 positional argument but 2 were given
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Also, python-ideas list is a good place to get more opinions (too many
sometimes) on an enhancement proposal.
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Whether or not an object has a docstring is implementation defined, and I do
not consider it to be part of its API. I just backported some new docstrings
(with Brett Cannon's concurrence), and I would consider it OK for Serhiy to do
the same wit
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Agreed. pydoc is a library module. 3.5 and 3.6 only get security patches.
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This change was part of #40257 and is being discussed there (where I suggested
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Title clarified. Leaving subinterpreters aside, only one instance, AFAIK, is
true for stdlib and python modules unless imported with different names, as can
happen with main module (which is a nuisance if not a bug). So only once per
interpreter seems
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Titles should be in English (translated if quoting output). I am closing
because there is no indication that there is a bug in Python, as opposed to a
misunderstanding of how to use it.
Extended help discussion is better conducted on python-list. For one
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This block is the same in 3.9 and 3.8.
My first though is this block is a holdover from 2.7, where range returned
list. But looking at what is written previously, I think your interpretation
is correct -- and agree that something other that code and
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Runtest itself ran to completion but the 4 tests listed failed. I suspect that
this should be closed as "won't fix" because
A. 3.6 only gets security fixes since Dec 2018.
B. Locally built Windows binaries often fail a few tests, either o
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python -m test.testsubprocessing on my Win 10-64 with repository 3.9.0a6+,
without your patch, produces
minkernel\crts\ucrt\src\appcrt\lowio\write.cpp(49) : Assertion failed:
(_osfile(fh) & FOPEN)
minkernel\crts\ucrt\src\appcrt\lowio\close.cp
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Please write out a manual test example (steps 1, 2, ..., N) that fails now and
passes with the patch.
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> The >else"#fca"< code was added 6 years ago (commit
> 8b95d5e0bf00d9d0098579d29fd6bb9322071879)
That was my typo in turtledemo.__main__ (similar lines before had the space)
and I wish that it had been caught then.
Why did compil
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I believe the file was synchronized across versions as new features have not
recently been added. Backporting the fix to my typo should keep it that way.
This is an example of why code review even of patches that 'work' is a good
thing.
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Now that I think about it, I have run into enough problems with ^V not pasting
something copied with ^C that I always leave source windows open until
successful. I had not noticed that there is only a problem between windows
(but this may be true) or after
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eryksun, Piping to clip.exe is not working well. On the patch, I asked if you
know what Windows system call it uses, but I cannot request your review there.
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Here is minimal reproducing code.
import types
import inspect
class A:
def say(self): print("A.say")
a = A()
class B: pass
b = B()
b.say = types.MethodType(a.say, b)
Let us examine MethodType first. Calling 'b.say()' asks the p
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Thanks Tal. I should have inquired about behavior on *nix before putting so
much effort into a Windows-only workaround, and not try to rush something into
the beta coming out today or tomorrow. I will return to trying to do an
invisible paste into a bare
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(The non-ascii chars are “ and ”, versus ascii ".)
Florian, although you did not select a 'Type', selecting multiple versions
implicitly claims that the current behavior is a bug. I believe R.David has
explained that it is not, even if sub-o
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This issue tracker is for proposing changes to the github CPython repository,
used to make python.org python releases. Your post does not propose a change
and does not demonstrate that there is a bug in current Python, which is 3.9.
So my current opinion
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With the same query, the first 4 responses for me are to the same page but for
different Python versions. None of the URLs include the query string.
`highlight=s` causes all the 's'es in the document to be highlighted, though
with a different
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I would attach simple PRs based on the discussion here to this issue. If a
particular change needs additional and particular discussion, I would open a
separate PR, announce it here, and list it in the Dependencies box. Then this
generic issue, 'R
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Pending further information, I believe that expecting '{1, 4}' to be
interpreted as an re quantifier involves two mental errors: a) thinking that
the domain specific re language allows optional whitespace and b) thinking that
'{' is a sp
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Batuhan Taskaya opened a duplicate issue #42454. Since it includes PR-23496,
with some review, and at least as much discussion, I am closing this issue,
contrary to normal policy.
Worthwhile? Batuhan found about 10 constant slices in 3200 PyPI packages
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I closed #11107 in favor of this issue. Some of the discussion and concerns
(like slice hashing) was similar.
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