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This strikes me as an example of the sort of thing that should not be in the
stdlib. 'Correct' behavior is a matter of opinion and the language being
hyphenated. I recommend rejecting.
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I am sympathetic to the idea, but is 8.7 out of beta yet? Do you have a link
to the release page?
Is it backward compatible, so that tkinter code written to run on current 8.6
would run on new binaries? In any case, such a change would only be done in a
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'bug', for the tracker, mean a divergence between implementation and doc. Hence
my question about the current doc. We could decide that either is wrong and
should be changed.
A change to meet 'expectations' and fix a 'desi
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I think that this proposal is either premature or not needed. (But did you
have anything specific in mind.) As you indicated, there are two separate
subissues here.
1. NotImplemented: Issue 35712 added "It should not be evaluated in a boolean
contex
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Jorge, next time you have questions about how to use a module (and struct is
fairly advanced), please ask on an appropriate forum, such as python-list.
Then Steven's nice answer could be read by 100s of people instead of likely
less than 10.
I look
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will not edit the code we have replaced.
Lyndon, when responding by email, please delete the old text as it is redundant
and noisy when your email is added to the web page
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(turtle module has no relation to IDLE other than also using tkinter. The fact
that turtledemo can be run from IDLE is incidental.)
3.10.0rc installed on Win 10. I first clicked randomly and never saw a missing
'release'. I noticed that
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After posting on the webpage, the quoted copy becomes redundant and noisy.
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This submission is somewhat similar to #45037 more promising. It at least
needs more explanation as to what it contributes that is not already present.
Plus see review comment.
(This part of my previous answer still applies: "When responding by
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bpo-45059: Fix IDLE test typo: using "==" instead of "=" (GH-28086)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/54f100514b
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Definitely a typo. Will apply fix and backport.
The first import of macosx initializes _tk_type to None. The line in question
intends to re-initialize it so that the subsequent assert can only pass if
_init_tk_type changes it to something required.
Many
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I agree, including use of hex, if possible, for unsigned (non-negative) values.
Grepping 'format requires' returns
F:\dev\3x\Modules\_struct.c: 365: "'%c' format requires 0 <= number
<= %zu",
F:\dev\3x\Modu
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(GH-28087). (GH-28092)
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The behavior remains the same in 3.11 ('main' branch). New PEG parser parses
this the same.
(Pablo, if there is a mistake below, please correct.)
Normally, the parser copies code chars between quotes, with or without '\'
interpret
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-1 also for the reasons given.
Michael, a question asking how would have made a good python-list post. So I
posted the answers in "How to include insertion order in dict equality"
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Thank you Eric. I can see now that the actual process is a somewhat
complicated mix of the simple options 1 and 2 I imagined above. It is like
option 2, except that everything between '{' and '}' is partially parsed enough
to create a
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Go ahead, with the understanding that there is no guaranteed acceptance of the
change, even with a good patch. There may be reasons for the status quo that
neither Steven nor I are aware of. I don't think that either of the listed
experts, added as
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Python. The crash reports mentioned XWindows errors about particular
characters being too complex or
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The doc section in question is
https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#ast.parse
I confirmed that 'break', 'continue', 'yield', and 'return' still parse, with
the results how having "type_ignore
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Thank you for finding what I could not.
Your previous message, referenced above, reporting a problem that remains in
8.6.11 on linux, was ...
"For me, this is not limited to special characters. Trying to load anything in
Tk using the 'JoyPi
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The compile() doc currently says ""This function raises SyntaxError if the
compiled source is invalid, and ValueError if the source contains null bytes."
And indeed, in repository 3.9, 3.10, 3.11,
>>> compile('\0',
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What I missed before is that duplicating the effect of the first two
interactive entries (no exception) requires escaping the backslash so that the
source argument for the explicit compile does not have a null.
compile("'\\0'&qu
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Diego, I repaired the defacement, which included removing you as nosy.
Relevant doc:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/configparser.html#configparser.BasicInterpolation
To me, the following line implies that % may be used freely in comments.
gain: 80
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Make PR branch from main, which I used for testing. I verified issue on 3.10
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Thank you Irit.
For any users who stumble on this issue: Drop down clicks in the dialog are
handled by tk. Hence, this was not an IDLE issue, unlikely to be a tkinter
issue, and most likely a bad tcl/tk version issue. Hence my first post. My
response
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guido, you seem to be the only active contributor to the pipes module. What do
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Pablo (and Ned)
PR_26672 (and backports) added one line to idlelib/autocomplete_w.py, 206 or
209.
acw.update_idletasks() # Need for tk8.6.8 on macOS: #40128.
NEWs item included "The added update_idletask call should be harmless and
possibly he
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The doc currently just says that the Search, File Search, and Search&Replace
dialogs exist for the corresponding menu entries.
Add a short section in "Editing and navigation" to say more.
1. Any selection becomes search target, except tha
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
In msg401744 I suggested any of the following for the upcoming 3.10.0 release.
1. Remove the new line.
2. Disable the line by adding '#'.
3. Make it conditional on macOS and 8.6.8.
Thinking more, I am rejecting 3. because the line is not needed fo
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I will just mention here that winconfig_event also calls update_idletasks, in
what should be the proper place, and I think that the second call was only
needed for mac tk 8.6.8 because of the unique-to-IDLE behavior I want to
delete. I suspect that if we
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Pablo, sorry I was not clear. PR_26684 and the line it added, having been
merged last June, are already in the 3.10.0rc2 release. What I want to do
immediately is disable the line with a '#'. I just posted an explanation on
#34193. I am about
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The offending function is
def event_delete(self, virtual, *sequences):
if virtual not in self.__eventinfo:
return
func, triplets = self.__eventinfo[virtual]
for seq in sequences
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test_get (test.test_multiprocessing_fork.WithProcessesTestQueue
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bpo-45193: News for IDLE PR_28343 (GH-28348)
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0c64569ac7066a97e4482c6d6e4d780806692ae5
a5bc0ffc520e09226f85d5fa8faaa83be0acee68
are ready to be cherrypicked into into the 3.10.0 release branch.
Once that is done, 'release blocker' can be removed, but issue should remain
open for a separate f
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Thank you for doing this. When I started setting up the IDLE test suite 8
years ago, I was a bit confused about the mixture of old ways (test_main) and
new ways (unittest.main and possibly load_tests) in the test suite.
Fortunately, Nick C. told me which
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IDLE has nothing to do with the operation of the color chooser. IDLE calls a
tkinter function that calls a tk functions that calls the OS Window Manager
color chooser. The choice you make is returned to IDLE as a color string that
IDLE can later pass to
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You added the same file twice. Once was enough.
To repeat: IDLE has no knowledge of color chooser. The Custom Colors bar is
Windows specific. There is no such thing on macOS.
PS: when responding by email, please delete the quoted message. It is
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Lukasz, there is no current doctest expert and I think that this is something
you could either accept or reject fairly quickly. Since the enhancement is to
the tests, it could be backported.
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Léon's message from #45242, which I closed as a duplicate of this.
Leon: please try with 3.11 (best, repository main), 3.10, or at least 3.9. 3.8
and before only get security fixes.
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If you installed 'py' (the default), you should be able to install pip with 'py
-3.8 -m ensurepip'. (I had to do this once. I wrote the failure off as a
random glitch and did not think to open an issue.)
-
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In 3.10+, end_lineno and end_offset fields were added to SyntaxError objects
and the args tuple.
>>> try: compile('1 1', '', 'single')
... except SyntaxError as e: print(e.args)
...
('invalid syntax. Perhaps
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Thanks for the report. I will fix this.
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bpo-45277: Fix typo in codecs doc (GH-28555)
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Antoine, git blame says you added at least many of the lines Thomas proposes to
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Please report back on the pip issue to read more of the doc, about inline
comments in
https://docs.python.org/3/library/configparser.html#customizing-parser-behaviour
like I should have before writing what I did.
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On Windows:
>>> exit
'Use exit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit'
>>> quit
'Use quit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit'
>>> exit.eof
'Ctrl-Z plus Return'
On *nix, 'Ctrl-Z plus Return' is '
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Tal, Paine: should be use exactly the raw REPL message or something that might
be clearer to beginners, like 'Ctrl-D (end-of-file)'?
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This should be easier to do with the new shell with indents fixed.
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>From #45297, closed as duplicate.
https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-this-syntax-i-dont-know-how-to-fix-it/10844
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In #45297, Steven D'Aprano suggests deleting code immediately followed by
traceback. (SyntaxErrors should not be there at all -- another issue.) But
should NameError, for instance, be ignore, just because user printed something?
Or block removed
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