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Specific examples of current messages and proposed improvements would help
focus discussion.
If you are willing to only handle code lines up to 256 chars, only 2 bytes
should be needed. (0,0) or (255,255) could mean 'somewhere beyond the 256th
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Unless you find documentation that says otherwise, this an enhancement proposal
for 3.11.
If no core developer (other than me) jumps on this, you might use git blame to
fine out who committed code in the area you proposed changing.
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bpo-43928: Fix 'succesfully' typo in document (GH-25569)
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bpo-43935: Fix typo in Turtle.back() docstring (GH-25581)
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Merge conflict in 3.9. Skipping backports.
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>From PEP 8:
right:label: str = ''
wrong:result: int=0 # No spaces around equality sign
current doc: quantity_on_hand: int=0):
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The error message suggests somethng else is using something in an existing 3.9
directory, and that you should close everything and reboot your machine and try
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New changeset e726a902b7c73a7056b7421d801e47255873 by Mohamed Moselhy in
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bpo-43971: Add spaces around annotated arg default '=' (GH-25702)
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Marking what expression evaluated to None would be extremely helpful. So would
marking the 0 denominator when there is more than one candidate: "e = a/b +
c/d". It should be easy to revise IDLE Shell's print_exception to tag the
span. In
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There is also a 'copy only code' option. Like 'copy', these two new options
require a selection. They appear on the context menu when right-clicking
either on the sidebar or within the selection. Like the format region
commands, these
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No apology needed. I don't know what has been added to the devguide, but most
OPs never submit a PR unless they either do so or say they will when opening an
issue. In any case, a week is more than a c
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Guido, Integer as synonym for Integral was your idea, or at least your
endorsement prompted me to file the issue. Other core devs don't think the
change is worth the trouble; I don't much care. Speak up if you want to revive
it.
-
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Soft keywords are a huge nuisance for syntax highlighting as they need special
case regexes and tests.
Hard keywords are matched against complete words, regardless of whether the
context is syntactically valid or not. If 'for' and 'else
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'master':
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/b43cc31a270d0dacbc69e35d6c6fbd
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My plan for the next day or two is to submit followup issue for Shell and
formally code what I wrote.
The only way to handle soft keywords correctly is with a custom re. I don't
expect them to become common. They are different from builtins because
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I agree with getting this in soon.
A related request is to to syntax highlight field expressions in f strings. I
don't think there is an existing issue. Apparently, at least some alternatives
to IDLE do this. I am not sure I would really want it, b
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This person, mohansai, seems to be misbehaving on the tracker and should be
stopped or at least educated. mohansai just reassigned a closed issue about
Windows extensions to IDLE, #43710, thus assigning it to me and wasting my
time. (I reverted the
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In #44010, we are trying, as best as is possible with comprehensible REs, to
identify in which circumstances occurrences of 'match', 'case' and '_' are
keywords, and should be marked as such. I was initially unsure and even
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I am surprised for 2 reasons. First, I have seen other improved messages in
IDLE, though maybe only for syntax errors. Second, code entered through IDLE
is executed by Python, 'same' in this respect as code entered through the REPL.
In more de
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original ``SomeException`` had we allowed it to propagate to the caller.
try:
...
except SomeException:
tb = sys.exc_info()[2]
raise
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(Shreyan, the fake filenames are not relevant.)
By default, sys.excepthook is sys.__excepthook is . So by default IDLE runcode calls print_exception, which call
cleanup_traceback for each traceback printed. This function makes two
important changes to
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nntp.rst, line 23, has already been updated to "s = NNTP('news.gmane.io'). But
that also occasionally fails to respond. I have not seen any test failures
recently, so maybe something else has changes. Should this be closed pending
c
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bedevere-bot malfunctioned. Lukasz merged PR 25873 into main, and I verified
the change on the main branch. But the PR is listed above as closed, not
merged, and commit 3b200b2aa648fcc8a2673871807c1463afe00195 is not listed.
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I realized after posting that looking for close matching is a performance issue
and does not need to be done unless the exception is going to be displayed.
But it is a shame to keep such great work away from many users.
What would you think of either
1
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Pablo, unless you are suggesting rewriting IDLE's custom exception handing in
C, I don't see how making it a single function would be an improvement. As
long as it is Python code, the problem is accessing the message supplement.
After reading yo
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As described above in msg392163, the other fix is to put the prompt on a line
by itself. I hoped to get a switch between fixes into b1 but ran out of time
and energy. I intend to have in in the next, along with other improvements
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This is only backported to 3.10 and not 3.9 because the fix recommendations
were only added in 3.10.
If the code difference became a problem, this could be backported because the
roundabout method for name and attribute errors would work in 3.9
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PR 25678 merged on top of the sidebar patch results in using space indents with
the sidebar. An additional patch is needed to have the mode with '>>>' on a
line by itself instead of having a sidebar.
The shell prompt_last_line attribute
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New changeset 5a5237c6d08ed97458b0903d6836624168df0b51 by Miss Islington (bot)
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bpo-44026: Idle - display interpreter's 'did you mean' hints (GH-25912)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/5a5237c6d08ed97
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Merged to 3.11.0a0 first, bot forget to post it.
Dennis, thank you for the analysis and then the suggestion as to how to access
the not directly accessible. It would likely have been awhile before I
stumbled from 'cannot' to 'can with wor
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When quoting, please include the source, preferably a direct link.
In Python 1 and 2, there were two function local namespace *implementations* --
array index by number or dictionary indexed by name. The implementation, and
hence the lookup mode, was fixed
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Yes, lets discuss actual problems and various possible solutions.
Raymond's example is incomplete as it omits multiline statements, which is
where the real problems lie and the reason a fix was sorely needed. This has
been more or less agreed on sin
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Starting with 3.10.0b1, Shell is being reworked in ways that make this issue,
as formulated, out of date. Solving the indent problems means that prompt must
be removed from the first line of interactive input. #37892. The initial
solution is to put
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This issue confuses two different testing issues. First is selection of test
data before the test versus generation while testing (usually 'randomly')
Second is how the function is tested. All tests test some property of the
inputs and functi
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Yes, complex ** complex works fine, and "TypeError: pow() 3rd argument not
allowed unless all arguments are integers".
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On #44078 (closed as duplicate), Mark Hammond made a similar request.
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Agreed. unparse is already correct if there is a parameter.
>>> ast.unparse(ast.parse("lambda x: 'hey!'"))
"lambda x: 'hey!'"
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3.8 only gets security fixes. Please verify issue on a current release.
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Thanks for the report and clean patch.
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This issue was really two issues: fix doc of existing behavior; change behavior
(which would be an enhancement). The first has been done; the second not. I
think this should be closed and if anyone still proposes the second, open a new
enhancement issue
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Alexey, to repeat what I said to Thomas above: please sign a contributor
agreement for your patches to be considered.
https://www.python.org/psf/contrib/
https://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form
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Serhiy: what do you know of tcl finalization?
Tal: why does your patch only expose the option that you said crashes ubuntu.
Spacekiwigames: if you have a cpython fork and local repository, you could try
the patch on your linux mint.
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Tal: cancel comment above. I was confused because FinalizeThread is exposed as
just finalize.
On Windows, PR fixes issue whether Shell or editor is closed last.
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Can we backport? The change to _tkinter, not directly exposed in tkinter,
could be considered an enhancement, but is necessary to fix what I consider a
real bug in tkinter, and hence in IDLE.
Pablo, would you allow the _tkinter change in .0b2?
If we
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
As Tal notes on the PR, the _tkinter patch is the minimum needed to fix the
problem for IDLE, not the undetermined patch to tkinter that should be done to
properly expose the fix to all tkinter users.
If the tcl function were exposed with a presumably
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Tcl_Finalize can be called more than once, says the tcl doc. It also says it,
or T_FThread should be called when unloading. If the tcl implementation on some
system does not match the doc, then there is a bug that should be reported.
If the registration is
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Thank you for the report. Which 3.9.? hyperparser has not changed in a year,
but some of the calltip logic has.
This occurred when you typed a '(' and IDLE tried to open a calltip but failed,
and you did not notice its absence. Easy when not l
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So, consider both possibilities where relevant. In the future, I will assume
that you are running standard, up-to-date, Mac build unless you say otherwise.
I presume you start IDLE from terminal and check it before shutting down. I
have wondered whether
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I agree that from the outside is seems slightly bizarre to make an internal
list to implement a function documented as returning an iterator. However,
list(scandir) was added by Serhiy in #26032 with the comment that it made
globbing 1.5-4 times faster
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I *think* that another bracket pair is needed, changing
"," "/"
to
["," "/"]
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IOError is a back-compatibility synonym for OSError. I will eliminate the last
use from all 3 versions. The change to the previous example was done by 2
people who did not backport to 3.9 and I will not bother with that. Future
versions are already fixed
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After mentally reparsing and translating to English, I think you are right.
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This is fundamentally a tk text widget issue. Prior to fall 2019, attempts to
insert an astral (non-BMP) chars in tkinter widgets raised a unicode decode
exception. Then Serhiy fixed tkinter so that such chars could be displayed,
either as the actual chars
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In order to understand what Paul is concretely proposing, I read and partly
reviewed his PR. I thought about maintainability.
Part A adds test.support.hypothesis_helper, similar in purpose to other
specialized xyz_helper modules. Hypothesis_helper imports
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I will link to an IDLE shell followup issue later.
Discussions about other IDLE issues should be on pre-existing issues (use the
tracker search with Components: IDLE), new issues, or without an issue, on the
idle-dev list.
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r = tk.Tk()
b = tk.Button(r, text='START', fg='white', bg='red') # Or '#f00'.
b.pack()
r.mainloop()
On Windows, white on red button, as expecte
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With 3.10.0b1 on Mac I am getting attribute completion freezes. I had to turn
them off. I am tempted to disable completions until there is a Mac IDLE
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The completion freeze fix is easily backported to non-Windows installations.
1. Run IDLE
2. File => Open Module, enter 'idlelib.autocomplete_w', OK.
3. Goto line 247 (3.9) or 250 (3.10) with "acw.update".
4. Add # in from of above to
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"The configure and cget subcommands can still manipulate the values, but do not
cause any variation to the look of the widget." is wrong. Setting the
foreground color *does* change the unpressed foreground color, so that 'white'
bec
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tk/tkinter-based turtledemo buttons are currently white on something. On Mac,
configured foreground button colors are honored (while the button is
unpressed), while background colors are ignored. Given that the unpressed
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#44254 is a followup to change turtledemo unpressed button colors to something
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pydev core has not touched 2.7 in a year. Anyone else maintaining 2.7 has had
a chance to grab 2.7 issues. So all 2.7 issues should be closed unless
obviously relevant to current issues (and even then have 2.7 removed). I agree
that the later does not
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When I changed the title, I intended to broaden the issue beyond 'start
maximized'. Even for that, there are two possibilities. 1. Configure option
(default as now). 2. Save 'current' position, which helps non-maximizers also.
So
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Tal, I think you had the right solution the first time. To me, tab is (should
be) a fixed key, and the event added just once, like the other fixed keys. I
am quite surprised that it isn't. Please revise or make a new patch to remove
it from
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David and Steve merged the seemingly conflicting PRs.
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New changeset acac6c71ff370413374c6aca1df808c426e8a30c by Ayush Parikh in
branch 'main':
bpo-44249: Fix 3 README.rst typos (GH-26385)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/acac6c71ff370413374c6aca1df808c426e8a30c
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New changeset 8f8f2ea832949fd9cd76c7a7924f346b316fb610 by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.9':
bpo-44249: Fix 3 README.rst typos (GH-26385)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8f8f2ea832949fd9cd76c7a7924f34
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New changeset 7261b29fa90d22f6cb5f3c94a3dbbf7978c6f448 by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.10':
bpo-44249: Fix 3 README.rst typos (GH-26385)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/7261b29fa90d22f6cb5f3c94a3dbbf
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'exec' was a keyword in 2.x, but that should not matter in 3.9. What OS? Did
you get an actual crash (core dump on *nix), or a python exception and
traceback (not a crash)? If the latter, copy and paste it.
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I am going to disable color config on darwin (and hope it gets into b2). The
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Ned, could you check the darwin osascript in turtledemo.__main__, lines 138-149
is current (both needed and correct)?
subprocess.run(
[
'osascript',
'-e'
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I presume you tested pr_26448. If default colors do not work, that is on
tcl/tk. I suspect 8.6.11 is not prepared for dark theme. The underlying bug
is ignoring the tk/user setting and deferring to the system for background only.
In the meanwhile, I will
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Of course, I cannot set the background on my Mac, so I will test on Windows and
let you verify on dark theme mac
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