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This is a result of how old-style classes are implemented.
If you look at type(Old()), you can see that it isn't Old, but "instance".
(And "instance" is a subclass of object again.)
"issubclass" for old-style classes do
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> If there's a bug, either an exception should be raised, or a fatal error.
> We should discourage warnings on stderr (the PHP approach).
Agreed.
That said, I'm with Martin in that don't see how the patch in this issue helps.
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As much as I like Emacs, I don't think it is special enough to warrant a
special file in the root directory.
Editor-specific directories in Misc/ are fine, and you can put instructions
there how to add your own .dir-locals.el, and we can even add th
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-1. Attribute setters or mutating methods returning self is not a common
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Well, can you find any other setter method of a "high level object" in the
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Re 8: it's not text, it's code, so it needs to go in code markup
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I hope you're not disappointed when that PEP doesn't show up in the release
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This should block beta1.
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What alternate syntax would you suggest for a "find" type command then (other
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I'd like to see this in 3.3.
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This has "Python 3.3" set as Version. Does it really block the 3.3 release?
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Is this issue still valid?
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So it's not a blocker anymore, right?
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Does this block 3.3b1?
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Greg, are you still going to update expat in time for 3.3? Otherwise this
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Brett (and/or Brian?), this sounds like it should be tackled soon, to give
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I'm not willing to hold up 3.3 for this. On the other hand, it should not be
done in the beta stage. And I don't assume it's a trivial matter (Éric?), so
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Which parts are still missing here?
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Is this ready to go in before beta1?
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If you commit this, please do so before beta1.
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Ping?
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Ping. This isn't necessary for beta1, but would be nice to have once the final
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I agree that this is not helpful at all in the usual case, i.e. when you
*don't* want to debug importlib. The one frame in actual user code (distutils
in this case) in the middle is kind of hard to spot, but it is what you want to
know. Note that Ama
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And will you fix it for beta1, or do you think it can be done later?
BTW, what is the syntax error here? I don't really see it...
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Since the news aliases are all over the module, the version change notice is at
the top of the page:
"""
Note
Starting with Python 2.6, this module provides PEP 8 compliant aliases and
properties to replace the camelCase names that were ins
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Deferring for beta1 at least.
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OTOH, I don't want it to block beta1.
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OK, sounds like none of it would block beta1.
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Why not deprecate .error()? Removing it immediately as undocumented is
certainly not better.
Otherwise sounds good, please commit.
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Seems to be fixed; at least compilation now works.
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Doesn't occur on the buildbots; is it fixed already?
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Antoine is much more of an expert here, and I defer to his judgment that it is
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The test case is till failing for the freebsd7 buildbot:
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And the Ubuntu ARM buildbot.
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Doesn't belong into operator IMO. We used to have a "strop" module where it
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I'd like Martin to have a look at this.
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Yes.
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Of course these failures have to be fixed. But what Martin is saying is that
for him (and probably other devs working on Windows) the build works, so the
change must be done in the scripts only running on the buildbots.
As for priority, we're two days
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As Antoine noted in #14626, the "rmdir" argument to os.unlink doesn't really
make sense since we already deviate from just mapping posix functionality
one-on-one.
Attached is a patch removing "rmdir" from os.unlink, and instead add
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Works for me.
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For pathconf() / fpathconf() and truncate() / ftruncate() the former didn't
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>From 3.2, os has a function get_exec_path -- shouldn't which() use it instead
>of rolling its own query of $PATH?
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Not sure "offline" is more true here; maybe "integrated" is better.
Also not sure the sentence deserves the death penalty.
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Followup to #15118.
See rev 75b818d7c50d -- the patch converted a usage of platform.uname(), which
errored out on Mac.
Since os.uname() is supposed to be the "low-level" interface, it suggests that
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Let's keep it to fwalk.
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Ping. I would like to have this test failure fixed for 3.3 rc.
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Ping. Could we update libffi for 3.3 final?
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Jesus, what do you think about removing that test entirely?
IMO it is not our job to verify the OS' proper behavior in the face of
SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA; it is enough to provide the constants, and let whoever
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As long as we have a test confirming that SEEK_HOLE/SEEK_DATA are *accepted* by
the io module (which is a big part of the patch), it is fine.
E.g. calling seek() with the constants and check that it only raises OSError or
nothing should work, right
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On default, have this single failure on my box (Gentoo amd64):
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Packaging is out, no more blocking.
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I agree it should be documented, probably wherever unget_wch is documented.
If there is a way to detect the ncurses version, the test should be skipped on
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Moving back to blocker for beta2.
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Patch looks innocent enough; would be nice to fix this for 3.3.
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Agreed with Martin, can't say I'm +1 on 3.3 either.
But I've just reviewed the patch, and it looks correct to me, so go ahead and
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Currently, the atexit docs state
"The order in which the functions are called is not defined" in the
introduction and
"all functions registered are called in last in, first out order" in the docs
of the atexit() function.
While the
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It does, in the 2.7 branch. You're welcome to port it to Python 3 and put it
into 3.x. I don't see the point though, and rather would have the mention
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I think you can make nice graphs with graphviz if you put effort into it :)
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Please leave this for Python 3.4 -- it is not a bugfix.
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Yeah, good to go. But please re-insert a blank line in the test suite changes
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Not great, but that sounds reasonable.
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Sorry, looks like a feature to me. Please wait for 3.4 with it.
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Eric, ping? When can this be closed?
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Ping. Brian? I'd rather have some testing period for this, so I'm reluctant to
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