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Does the 3.6.0 freeze fail under 3.6.0, or the 3.6.3 freeze fail under 3.6.3?
If not, there's no bug to report.
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Huh, I thought I had closed it.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
If image/bmp is now[*] the official IANA type, mimetypes should use that.
However, because this is a change with possible backward compatibility issues,
it should probably only go into 3.7, but I'm open to arguments about that.
[*] The mimetypes modu
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That's the basis, but its a bit more complicated than that (NEWS item, putting
bpo-22589 in the issue title, the question of signing a CLA, though a CLA
doesn't really matter for this kind of change IMO). If you can't do it one of
our
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It disappears for me running it on linux with the blank added.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
I haven't been following that discussion, and isolated from that that
discussion the title of this issue and this proposal make no sense to me.
Warnings are off by default, so you don't need to hide them. In what context
does this get used?
R. David Murray added the comment:
Ah, OK, that makes more sense. I don't run into warnings other than
DeprecationWarnings in practice, so I tend to forget about them :)
I think specifying warnings filters is pretty inscrutable, in ge
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It does matter, though, because in Python you can specify a positional argument
as if it were a keyword argument if you use the name from the source rather
than the documented name. We have made other doc corrections along these
lines. We've even do
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New changeset ede157331b4f9e550334900b3b4de1c8590688de by R. David Murray
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bpo-22589 Changed MIME type of .bmp to "image/bmp" (#4756)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ede157331b4f9e550334
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Thanks, nitishch. As I said, I'm not going to backport this unless someone
advances an argument in favor that discusses the possible backward
compatibility issue. (I'm not sure there are any significant ones, but someone
needs to research it a
R. David Murray added the comment:
The second case is indeed the bug, as can be seen by running the examples
against python2.7. It looks like this was probably broken by 7901b48a1f89 from
issue 23171.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
Serhiy, since it was your patch that probably introduced this bug, can you take
a look? Obviously it isn't a very high priority bug, since no one has reported
a problem (even this issue isn't reporting the change in behavior as a
R. David Murray added the comment:
> How about "[TYPE] object is not iterable/unpackable"
I just grepped the docs, and the term 'unpackable' does not appear anywhere in
them. I don't think this would be an improvement.
As for the earlier suggestion of adding &q
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I shouldn't have searched the docs for 'unpackable', I should have searched for
'unpack'. Doing that reveals that the term 'unpack' is used for other
concepts, whereas the term 'iterable' is precise. So I think
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Right, this is not a bug, it is working as documented. You could submit an
enhancement request, but I'm surprised to find that anyone is actually using
that module :)
We unfortunately have multiple implementations of quoted printable handling in
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It actually makes sense that a slice assignment with a different length
replacement list with a step of 1 works but any other step doesn't. Logically
you can see that you can cut out a chunk and replace it with a different sized
chunk, but you can
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We generally don't do advance type checking (look before you leap) in Python.
This allows a type the programmer hadn't planned for to be used as long as it
"quacks like" the expected type (this is called duck typing). So the error w
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>From RFC 2047:
(3) As a replacement for a 'word' entity within a 'phrase', for example,
one that precedes an address in a From, To, or Cc header. The ABNF
definition for 'phrase' from RFC 822 thus becomes:
R. David Murray added the comment:
And of course tools can grep for "f...@bar.com": you can't use encoded words in
an address, only in the display name.
However, it occurs to me that in fact the restriction applies only to phrases,
so one could use a less restrictive char
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This is a consequence of the repr used by KeysView, which it inherits from
MappingView. I agree that the result is surprising, but there may not be a
generic fix. It's not entirely clear what KeysView should do here, but
presumably we could at least
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Agreed about the other classes if we change this. Your solution looks
reasonable to me.
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Well, from our point of view it isn't a bad assumption, it's that muslc needs
to be added to the list of exceptions. (I know almost nothing about this...I
assume there is some reason we can't determine the stack size programatically?)
Wo
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I think we need people who do a lot of work at the C level to evaluate this, so
I've added a couple to the nosy list :)
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In quick search the only RFC reference to this I found was
https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sweet-uri-zoneid-01.html, which doesn't match
what you are requesting (not that urlsplit's current behavior matches that
either).
Do you have RFC
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What would you like to see happen in that situation? Should we use
errors=replace like we do for headers? (That seems reasonable to me.)
Note that it can be re-serialized as binary.
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I do wonder where you are using the string version of messages :)
I actually thought I'd already done this (errors=replace), but obviously not.
I don't have time now to work on a patch for this, and the patch in the other
issue hasn't be upd
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This is not a bug in python. If it is your code contact the pyhon-list mailing
for help. If you got whatsapp_xtract from somewhere else, contact that
community with your questions.
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IMO it is better to have an API that can be used when, for example, writing
tests, than to monkey patch. On the other hand, I've never had an occasion
when I cared about the names of tempfiles (or directories) in my test code, and
it is hard to imag
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The point of html.escape is to sanitize a string that contains html such that
*it does not get interpreted as html*. So adding html markup would go against
its purpose. Further, including in an attribute value (which is the
purpose of quote=True) would
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What is happening here is that what nonlocal does is give the function
containing the nonlocal statement access to the "cell" in the parent function
that holds the local variable of that function. When you use a global
statement, the name instead
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Right, it was indeed "designed that way" in the sense that nolocal was only
ever intended to access variables from the surrounding local scope, *not* the
global scope. If you put a variable name in the global scope, nonlocal was not
intended to
R. David Murray added the comment:
When I said "the only thing keeping this issue open" is the message, I should
acknowledge that you mentioned clarifying the documentation, but as I pointed
out the documentation is already clear: it says nonlocal does not access
variables in
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Hmm. I suppose that could be clarified in the docs. I would find it very
counter-intuitive for the grandparent 'a' to be accessible, which is probably
why I did not consider that an issue.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
The existing issue is #29051.
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That's type checking. Not type checking is to call the method that writes the
data, expecting the object to handle the bytes it is passed, and then that
object raises an error to indicate that it cannot. There is no protocol that
can be checke
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Yes, if that protocol existed the errors would be clearer. But it doesn't, for
historical reasons, and that is unlikely to change.
You are welcome to submit an enhancement request to make quopri accept string
as an argument when decoding. But
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Yes, this would appear to be both 3rd party and a support request rather than a
bug report. Gianguido: please work with the urllib3 community, or post to the
python-list mailing list. If you identify an actual bug in Python itself, you
can come back here
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I don't think a zone id in that form is actually valid in a URI, but I agree
that not messing with whatever is there is probably the best policy as long as
we aren't directly supporting whatever
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Please describe the problem and your proposed solution in more detail and in
terms of CPython, so that it can be discussed by the relevant experts. GDAL is
a third party product and only relevant as an example, so it would also be good
to come up with a
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I doubt we can make the change this way for backward compatibility reasons.
That doesn't mean the situation can't be improved, though.
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Whatever clr is, it doesn't look like it is part of the Python standard
library. Please contact the clr community for support on this package, or post
to the python-list mailing list.
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R. David Murray added the comment:
Duplicate of issue 24960.
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Funny, you are already nosy on that issue. Does this one have a different
goal, or did you just forget about that one?
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Which help are you talking about? The Operator Precedence table that you get
if you do, eg: help('&')? I don't think it would be appropriate to mention
specialized uses of the operators there, although perhaps we could add a
general
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Éric: in python3 if no .py is found but a .pyc is found where the .py is
expected, it will be imported and run. This supports sourceless package
distributions, which is something we only sorta-support :)
The change looks simple enough that it might be
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There may be now, but I don't think there was when unittest was written. Also,
if someone decided to use namespace packages for tests for some reason, the
current check would also probably fail, so it may be worth looking for (or
creating if need
R. David Murray added the comment:
I don't think the PR as it stands is a good idea. These classes are designed
to be composable, so it should be up to the library user whether or not to use
threads. However it would be perfectly reasonable to choose to use threads in
the 'test
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My suspicion is that this behavior/code is left over from when the code was
handling strings in python2, where strings were always null terminated and so
the equal-bytes test would always pass. I don't think this is appropriate for
bytes objects,
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I think what Py_SIZE "means" depends on the object type in the general case,
not just this one, so documenting that it is mucking with the internal
representation is probably the way to go.
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Paul Ganssle: Even if Andrew were not suggesting adding copy to the C
implementation (I have no opinion on that currently), it would still be correct
to maintain backward compatibility in the python version in the standard
library. We do not consider the
R. David Murray added the comment:
Yes, that's why I said "from our point of view" :) I know there is usually a
fork in the practical sense, but we want to make it as easy as practical to
sync that fork, which includes not breaking things in the python versions
with
R. David Murray added the comment:
Well, it's not obvious that it has anything to do with CPython itself. You
should probably work with the community responsible for tensorflow, whatever
that is, and if they find a bug in CPython you can come back here with a
report. Given the
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This is a feature that actually supports your use case, as well as the use
cases of those who *don't* want to strap the python version: you get what you
ask for. If you call venv with 'python3', you get a venv that will use your
new python
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Actually, I'm going to reopen this as a doc issue because this behavior is not
discussed by the docs that I can see, and it is important to know about when
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Correct, a new feature should always get a what's new entry. You could submit
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At the point at which that error is raised, Python doesn't know the name of the
attribute, nor is attribute access the only place where that particular error
report is triggered (it's in a generic subscript-this-object call). So I doubt
doing thi
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Well, it would be a backward compatibility problem at a minimum.
Obviously things were designed this way. Have you found out why? Is there a
consensus on python-ideas that this should be changed? If so, please link to
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cygwin in not currently fully supported (there are people working on it,
though). Can you determine if this is a bug in cygwin's bash support, or
something else? It certainly works with bash shell on unix. I would presume
that from cygwin one would
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"round brackets" would require just as much thought (if not more...it's not a
thing at all in American typographical language) for an American to understand
as the unadorned bracket does for the rest of you, so the best compromise is
"pa
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Well, in that case having 'organizer' in the error message wouldn't help you
untangle your code ;)
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You can get the same "bad" behavior on a posix system by having a mimetypes
file with an incorrect entry in it. That would be a system misconfiguration,
as is your Windows registry case, and is outside of Python's control. I
suppose w
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Why? What's the motivation for supporting this? There's no reason that I can
think of, so I'm curious what your use case is.
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New changeset f190eb59e60e2ae7a7cbd396458389a7a076e0d3 by R. David Murray
(Emily Morehouse) in branch 'master':
bpo-32452: clarify term 'brackets' in generator tutorial (#5079)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/f190eb59e60e2ae7a7cb
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Agreed. I don't think there is sufficient motivation for doing this, and there
are downsides as Eric has pointed out. Rejecting.
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New changeset f24c1857a8a1ba3efb3f957d43371bc9499e3c86 by R. David Murray (Miss
Islington (bot)) in branch '3.6':
bpo-32452: clarify term 'brackets' in generator tutorial (GH-5079) (#5081)
https://github.com/p
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It looks like the docs job hung on the 2.7 backport, but I don't see how to
restart it.
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New changeset 0e0d1017a4c8ad6f77ee42d7b640463058037f62 by R. David Murray (Miss
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bpo-32452: clarify term 'brackets' in generator tutorial (GH-5079) (#5082)
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Thanks, Mariatta. I did click on the details link, so either the restart link
isn't obvious or I don't have the correct permissions to do a restart :)
And thanks Emily for doing the PR.
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This has been proposed and rejected before, for example in issue 28135. If you
want to pursue it you'll need to start a thread on python-ideas.
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This reduces to the following:
>>> from binascii import a2b_base64 as f
>>> f(b'MTIzND\nU2Nzg5\n')
b'123456789'
>>> f(b'MTIzND\n')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
b
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I think adding an __all__ in 3.7 would be reasonable. You are right that we
can't simply rename them for backward compatibility reasons. We could rename
them, and leave a stub function (that calls the renamed function) but issues a
deprecation wa
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Just warnings, no docs. We've done this before for other helper functions, but
it is always a judgement call whether it is worth the churn. I defer to those
people who have actually done work on the module for the answer to that
que
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If you read the traceback the message is "correct" for some definition of
correct: the right hand side controls the type of the expression, so it is
objecting to trying to look for the string '%' in a bytes object.
There are probabl
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This is a general property of dunder methods in python3, and I think we have
chosen not to change the wording when this has come up in other contexts. I'm
not sure, though.
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I'm not sure, but the discussion I remember was that it would require changes
to an awful lot of places in the docs that would make the docs harder to read.
It is very seldom in normal Python coding that an object has a method that it
does *not* get
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What happens if you print a placeholder line first, before your test output?
I'm not sure it will work, I seem to remember something about an ellipses
starting a line just not being supported, but it was a long time ago...
So, that doesn't work
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Ah, I see my answer crossed with your post :)
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We generally don't do type checking (see discussions of "duck typing"). We
generally do just let the implementation detail bubble up. I don't think the
encoding suggestion works, since we can't know what encoding the byte string i
R. David Murray added the comment:
I think Nick was the last one who touched the byte/string issues in urllib, so
I've nosied him. We'll see what he thinks (but this tracker accepts
enhancement proposals as long as they are smallish ones).
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Yes, I would say it is.
Note that this isn't going to get "fixed" in 2.7, because 2.7 doesn't get new
features, and the proposed change to the CLI is a new feature. As noted in
that issue discussion we aren't going to change the
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In particular, if we don't already have an example of using the threading mixin
we should, so a doc RFE to add that would be nice.
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Well, it does support a persistent connection, but that connection lasts until
it is shut down from the other side. Documentation improvement suggestions are
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It's importing 'a' from '.', which I guess in this context means from the
current namespace (__main__), and a is 7. You'll note that 'b' did get
repointed, but it got repointed to what 'a' points to, in
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It's the same answer. __init__ *is* the package namespace, so you are setting
the value of 'func' in the package (.) namespace, and what import is doing is
correct.
I know this is confusing. I banged my head against it while debugging
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Yes, you are substantially correct. A subtlety that may enhance your
understanding (if it doesn't instead totally confuse you :) is that __init__ is
simply the most straightforward way to affect the module namespace. You would
see the same phenomen
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As I understand it, we don't control or know what that list is, it depends on
each distribution's policies.
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I'm fairly certain (though not 100%, obviously :) that coercing first and then
sorting would be accepted if someone wants to create a PR for this.
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json keys *are* strings, so the fact that we support other object types as keys
and coerce them to strings is an "extra feature" of python, and is actually a
somewhat questionable feature. The reproducible use case is solved by the fact
that dic
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I think Ronald is correct.
The priority argument for enter would apply if you called enter twice with two
different delays, but they happen to end up pointing to the same moment in time
from the scheduler's point of view.
How would the computer know
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smtplib doesn't define any behavior for messages. I presume you are talking
about the email library?
Vis the print behavior, dict-style lookup is defined to return the first
matching header. If you want to see all of them, you can use get_all.
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I wrote up a response before Mark closed the issue, so despite his excellent no
discussion suggestion I'm going to post it for the edification of anyone
reading the issue later rather than waste the work :)
Nathan: this is *long* established behavi
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That is not kwargs, that's a passing a dict. Which is what you would want,
since the strings you want to replace might not be valid identifiers, and so
couldn't be passed as keyword arguments.
I think I'm -0.5 on this. I don't think
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