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How did you conclude that PYTHONOPTIMIZE = 0 is not honored? Can you provide a
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In any case, 2.6.6 is nearly out so bad behavior needs to be demonstrated with
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+- same traceback in 3.1
Since ABCmeta is not used (by name) its import is not needed.
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I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that this issue has a small patch
with two tests and comments. Please don't let it get lost. :)
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I presume the first example should have been
# cat file | ./test.py
or seceond should have been
# ./test.py < test.py
so that test.py gets same input on stdin in either case.
For other readers: kqueue and kevent are bsd-specific functions and classes in
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Doc/howto/doanddont.rst is the source for
Python HOWTOs: Idioms and Anti-Idioms in Python
Moshe Zadka original author (added as nosy)
The gist of the patch is to clarify that using 'with' is best, not the non-with
version that is currently called
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Ned, any reason not to close this as a duplicate, with #9227 as superseder?
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In interactive mode, multiline statements are terminated with a blank line.
Your examples lacks that, so the 3rd line is part of the def and lacking the
proper indent, is indeed a syntax error. You get the same with the standard
command-line interpreter
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Are you talking about top-level code within the urllib module or code within
defined functions. If the former, can you quote or point to the place in the
file? If the latter, which functions? Just urlopen or others? Does
urllib2.urlopen have the same issue
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In 3.x, http_error_auth_reqed is a method of
urllib.request.AbstractBasicAuthHandler
(20.5.8. AbstractBasicAuthHandler Objects in 3.1 lib manual)
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In 3.1, and I presume (please check) 2.7, the signature is given as
class json.JSONEncoder(skipkeys=False, ensure_ascii=True, check_circular=True,
allow_nan=True, sort_keys=False, indent=None, separators=None, default=None)
I verified by simple experiment
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I agree:
Implementation note: PyShell.py hass the following line:
from code import InteractiveInterpreter
That is the base class for InteractiveConsole, the subject of #7741.
PyShell makes it own extension
class ModifiedInterpreter(InteractiveInterpreter
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To be clearer, this issue is an elaboration of the #3559 report that
\n 'does not work' in that it points out that \n silently ignores the second while
\n is reported as a syntax error. I agree
that this elaboration should have been included ther
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I switched to patch review because I am not sure unit test is possible.
I did not advocate a change to immediate execution in my original post. I noted
that pasting multiple statements does not work and that if it cannot be made to
work, the limitation
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This is definitely not a critical fix for 2.6 ;-)
The weakref.proxy doc says nothing about comparisons:
"weakref.proxy(object[, callback])
Return a proxy to object which uses a weak reference. This supports use of the
proxy in most contexts inste
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I agree that a tolerant mode would be good (and often requested). String
encoding and decoding also have strict and forgiving modes, so this seems close
to a policy.
Unit tests with example snippets that properly fail strict mode and pass the
new tolerant
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While Python is 'GPL compatible', whatever that means, it cannot incorporate
GPLed code in the PSF distribution. Code must be contributed under one on the
two licenses in the contributor agreement. Philip, can you contribute a patch
appropriate to
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2.7 is closed to new features and I cannot see making a non-bug change in a
maintenance release that could break something.
Should this be closed in favor of #9694? (Or vice versa?). Perhaps one of the
issues should be renamed something like "Im
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Is this really a behavior bug or doc bug?
Or a feature request for better message customization?
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2.6.6 is the final 2.6 bugfix release. A bug would have to be demonstrated with
2.7 or 3.1/2. On 3.1, winxp, I get this also:
>>> import json
>>> json.dumps('foo')
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I do not think your wish is sensibly possible. GzipFile wraps an object that is
or simulates a file. This is necessary because GzipFile "simulates most of the
methods of a file object, with the exception of the readinto() and truncate()
methods."
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This is really two issues: docs and windows builds. As for docs:
Many of the module doc pages mention original authors and give urls for further
info. The ssl page already says " This module uses the OpenSSL library." Rather
than fuss over wheth
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I agree. A programmer who mashes
a = d = 1
b, c = e = 2, 3
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Additional note: RefMan 2. Lexical analysis:
"Python reads program text as Unicode code points;"
Doc for runsource says "Compile and run some source in the interpreter.
Arguments are the same as for compile_command()". Latter says &q
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never used Linux (yet). I take Georg's answer to mean that this is not
obviously obsolete and should be left open.
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I agree that the Timer doc is deficient in not saying that timing is done
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mentioning the secret of how to successfully pass user-defined functions until
the very bottom instead
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While refactoring the code for 2.7, I discovered that the description of the
heuristic for 2.6 and in the code comments is off by 1. "items that appear more
than 1% of the time" should actually be "items whose duplicates (after the
first) app
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I agree that the docs for augmented assignments and the corresponding method
and funciton can and should be improved.
But I do not like this as is. In particular, Python does not have in-place
operators; it has methods that optionally do an operation in
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Good idea!
I see Raymond's point about the name. How about .method_check?
To me Sequence.method_check(range) means "Abstract Seqeunce class, please
method-check the concrete range class."
If Sequence.register(range) is in the range sourc
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As I remember, the FAQ was once that, *the* (giant) FAQ, with numbered
sections. When broken into pieces, the order may have been re-arranged.
Given that the broken reference is in extending/windows, I would look in both
the Extending and Windows FAQs
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PATCH
Specifically, in section 17.6. base64..., near bottom, example should be
>>> import base64
>>> encoded = base64.b64encode(b'data to be encoded') #hang
>>> encoded
b'ZGF0YSB0byBiZSBlbmNvZGVk'
>>>
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clearly doc issues, the other 2 I do not know. I hope someone reads this who is
already familiar
DOC PATCHES
dumps(2 + 1j, cls=ComplexEncoder)
should be
json.dumps(2 + 1j
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As an experiment, I ran doctest on 17.2 json saved as .txt, See #9767
4 failures, 2 obvious doc faults, 2 unclear to me.
Their were 2 similar doc faults in non-interactive code examples, so doctest is
not enough to catch all bad code.
We clearly need to do
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Although this is not a problem in IDLE where the window can easily be expanded
beyond 80 chars, I am in favor of the idea for other uses. The command line
interpreter on Windows defaults to 80 chars and is not so easy to change, and
one must be admin to make
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Better specifying requirements is good. A few comments:
- The second argument is an error message; it is converted to a string object.
+ The second argument is an error message; it is decoded to a string object
+ with ``'utf-8'`` encoding.
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Well, anyone who does try that example will see the correct output and not
notice the trailing whitespace difference. It will only be an issue if and when
automated doc doctests are run repeatedly. Worry about it then. Thanks for the
quick response
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Since Raymond has grabbed this, I will let him decide on its scope.
I agree with sectioning the operator doc and intended to suggest that.
The term 'in-place operation' is fine when accurate. The term 'in-place
operator', which is what
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It is possible that only a fixed-size buffer is needed. If so, use of an
alternate read mechanism could be conditioned on the underlying file(like)
object not having seek.
It is also possible to direct a stream to a temporary file, but I think having
the
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I hope the trivial 2-byte fix does not get lost in the general issue.
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The patch changes the internal function that constructs the dict mapping b
items to indexes to read as follows:
create b2j mapping
if isjunk function, move junk items to junk set
if autojunk, move popular items to popular set
I helped write and test the
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Perhaps this could be expanded to "Deprecation warnings in 3.3" with
release-blocker priority to list all 3.2 PendingDWs. Once changes are made, it
could be retitled "Removals in 3.4", with a new "Deprecation warnings in 3.4&
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+1
I presume you can use the experience with #9858 to either refine the program to
have fewer false positives or refine the program doc to explain the possibility
where such are unavoidable. (And as a lint-like metatest, I think false
positives are better
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Verified as IDLE specific on WinXP, 3.1.2
With interpreter, I get
>>> import re; re.findall(b"\x.{2}", b"sdds\xd8")
ValueError: invalid \x escape
In an IDLE Shell window, the window immediately disappears when I hit return
and
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I suspect so, but I leave it to Eric to decide.
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Changing title to match current issue status.
DOC PATCH
Grammar section: As near as I can tell, the alternatives for
stringprefix::= "r" | "u" | "ur" | "R" | "U" | "UR" | "Ur" |
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Given that difflib produces unified diffs (among 3 others) and that diff.py is
a thin command-line wrapper that provides access to all 4 formats (with no
default), I consider those two files 'ready'. So I presume you are referring to
your patch.py
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I am following the suggestion in the last sentence of the original post and
turning this into a doc issue. I believe it is standard that command-line
switches override environmental variables when there is a conflict, but 'Using
Python', s
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I do not deny that the behavior described in the doc is a bit strange (keying
off of type, ignoring value) is a bit bizarre and contrary to reasonable
expectation based on other programs. But to alter behavior before 3.2 or later
would require a clearly
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The bug appears to really be limited to Vista?/W7. On WinXP,
>>> os.path.exists('c:/programs/python31')
True
>>> os.path.exists(b'c:/programs/python31')
True
Has the patch been tested on WinXP to be sure it does not intro
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Only if given a revised 32bit binary (and revised test_os.py). I expect someone
else who can will see this.
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What I said in 2007 re commas could be well out of date (might well have been
so even then, in fact). Somebody should check what browsers do now...
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Looks like a bug. Here's the trac bug that this caused -- trac fixed their bug
by working around this bug in a really ugly way:
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2256
It would be nice to notify the trac developers if/when this is fixed.
This bug is probabl
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Range objects are new in 3.0; they supersede 2.x xrange objects, which are
perhaps 10 years old. I do not remember that xrange objects had such
attributes. On the other hand, I believe there were requests.
The request, with either implementation, seems
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The posted experiments on sorted data do not do any sorting. They only test the
difference in setup and comparison speed and not sorting/swapping speed. Please
post something with large arrays of random data.
Since the patch is intended to speed up 3.2 and
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Does this help any?
>>> import random
>>> from timeit import timeit
>>> testlist = list(range(10))
>>> random.shuffle(testlist)
>>> timeit('t=list(testlist); t.sort()',
'from __main__ import
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I do not use threads so I cannot comment on the technical issue.
Since the current behavior is not clearly a bug, I do not think a change would
or know that it should be applied to 2.7/3.1. So I suggest that you both
1. Suggest a doc patch on this issue
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>IMHO pprint should be able to make a decent job of all the built in types
Agreed, already true as far as I know, and irrelevant. This issue is not about
built-in types in the builtins module, as documented Lib Ref chapter 5
*Built-in Types*. Collections
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FWIW 3.1 gives same message as 2.6. I have not installed 3.2a yet to check that.
Reporting of argument count mismatch has always been problematical, especially
for methods. I almost think the message should be simplified to "Arguments
passed do not
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If I understand correctly, you are requesting that .assertItemsEqual only use
the 2nd (multiset comparison) method, so that if one want the first method, one
should directly call .assertSequenceEqual(sorted(a), sorted(b)).
This seems reasonable to me, but I
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might be asking.
I closed this because of Daniel's suggestion coupled with the Richard
disclaiming further interest and neither Raghuram nor any new responder saying
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You initial link
I only see one entry, Thread (class in threading), which points to
http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html#threading.Thread
as it should. I do not see a duplicate link nearby.
I have no idea what ', [1]' is supposed to mean.
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Questions should be asked on python-list or other discussion forums, not nere.
If this were a feature-request, it would need a realistic use-case. If the
implied change were requested, I would think it should be rejected as
conflicting with the language
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This is a bug report in that there is a discrepancy between the grammar in the
doc and the behavior. Laxiness can lead to portability problems if CPython is
lax compared to a normal reading of the spec and another implementation takes
the spec seriously.
I
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3.1 has the same problem (and the same results as above)
Assuming behavior is not changed, please suggest a specific rewording that you
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list, which is also mirrored on the gmane.comp.python.general newsgroup at
news.gmane.org and the comp.lang.python usenet newsgroup. This issue tracker is
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setattr(modules[__name__], 'name', 'value')
is
>>> globals()['name'] = 2
>>> name
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