[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: I confirm the issue. Seems this is a particularity of Tk implementation on Windows (it looks as a bug from user's point of view). There is a workaround, but it is too complex. For the particular keyboard layout and for every registered shortcut you need to f

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Constantine Ketskalo
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[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Constantine Ketskalo
Constantine Ketskalo added the comment: Terry J. Reedy, Japaneese has no cyrillic characters, it's alphabet consists of hieroglyphs and it has nothing to do with Ukrainian even if it looks the same for you. "about Windows' built-in Cyrillic IMEs and control key combinations?" In depth - no. I'm

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Terry J. Reedy
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[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: IDLE's involvement with cut, copy, and paste is to tell the tcl/tk GUI framework what keys to associate with the operations. The keys depend on the OS-specific defaults or the keyset chosen by the user. The actual operation on the Text widget is carried out b

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Constantine Ketskalo
Constantine Ketskalo added the comment: Louie Lu, yes, I'm using Windows. But, sorry, what is IEM? I'm currently using native Python IDLE. Right click to .py file and "Edit with IDLE". However I'm starting to think about switching to Visual Studio, even though it's huge and slower... Yes, I'm

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-22 Thread Louie Lu
Louie Lu added the comment: Hi, so you are using Windows built-in IEM with Ukrainian input method. And in this situation, you cannot use Ctrl+Z, Ctrl+V ..etc. right? -- nosy: +louielu ___ Python tracker __

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-21 Thread Constantine Ketskalo
Constantine Ketskalo added the comment: You must be kidding me? I know that it's possible to use it via menu. And my speed of software development will be 3 times slower. Great! If this was a bug in Windows then why the heck it works perfectly in any other program including Python when I switch

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-21 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: IDLE and Python/tkinter have nothing to do with the handling of keystrokes and their direct interpretation. The behavior you describe, the Ctrl key being disabled in Ukranian mode, strikes me as a bug in either Windows or the Input Method you use, or, less li

[issue31244] Shortcuts bug in Python IDLE

2017-08-21 Thread Constantine Ketskalo
New submission from Constantine Ketskalo: Hi there. Thank you for Python, I love this programming language. I've found a bug with shortcuts. I'm from Ukraine, so I'm working with English, Ukrainian and Russian languages. But any shortcuts, where alphabet is involved (like Ctrl+Z, Ctrl+F, Ctrl+