[issue25194] Register of Financial Interests for core contributors

2015-09-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Posting an alternate draft that takes the approach MAL suggested, emphasising the personal motivation side of things. This one doesn't attempt to pre-categories the list of contributors - instead, I'd expect us to do that based on analysis of the raw text. The

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2015-09-25 Thread Terry J. Reedy
Changes by Terry J. Reedy : -- nosy: +terry.reedy ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.

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2015-09-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: I think the change in tone that MAL suggested will go a long way towards clarifying the opt-in nature of the idea - my initial draft took too much of its phrasing from contexts where disclosure is required rather than optional. -- __

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2015-09-24 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Please make it clear that any listings are optional. No core developer is required to write anything about themselves that they don't want to make public. -- ___ Python tracker

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2015-09-23 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Right, I'm in a similar situation at Red Hat to the one Antoine's in at Continuum Analytics - I'm not personally part of Red Hat's Python maintenance team (I used to work on internal Engineering tools, and now work on Fedora's overall developer experience), but

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2015-09-23 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: Antoine: think that's exactly what Nick has in mind, exposing that kind of information. -- ___ Python tracker ___

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2015-09-23 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: What would be the rules for how to fill this up? For example, I work for Continuum, which develops Conda and Anaconda, but I'm not paid to work on CPython (I work on Numba). However, perhaps someone might want to ask for CPython work that aligns with Continuum

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2015-09-23 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: What about those of us who would *like* to broadcast our availability? :) -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker ___ _

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2015-09-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Ezio's right I ended up mixing together a few different objectives here, which is an artifact of how the idea came about: * my starting point was wanting a list of folks that already have commit access (and hence are demonstrably familiar to the core development

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2015-09-21 Thread Ezio Melotti
Ezio Melotti added the comment: > Wouldn't it be better to put the emphasis on a) core devs who do this > in their free time, b) core devs who would be available for hired work, > and c) showing off which companies indirectly support Python via > employing core devs and giving them time to do

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2015-09-21 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: I like the idea, but the phrasings "disclosure" and "financial interests" sound too negative, IMO. Wouldn't it be better to put the emphasis on a) core devs who do this in their free time, b) core devs who would be available for hired work, and c) showing

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2015-09-20 Thread Ezio Melotti
Ezio Melotti added the comment: This is not a requirement though: +CPython core contributors are encouraged, but not required, to disclose the +means by which they fund their ability to contribute time to CPython core +development. -- ___ Python trac

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2015-09-20 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger added the comment: I would object to any new requirement to disclose any information that I consider to be private or personal. -- ___ Python tracker ___ _

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2015-09-20 Thread Raymond Hettinger
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2015-09-20 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Raymond Hettinger added the comment: FWIW, I think this is bad idea and opens a can of worms. Occasionally, I'm consulting and under NDA or my clients don't want they're doing disclosed. Also, I feel this is a transgression into my personal life. My financial affairs are my own business an

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2015-09-20 Thread Ezio Melotti
Ezio Melotti added the comment: The "Consultants and Freelance Developers" seems to cover two different aspects: 1) list devs that are consultants or freelance developers for a living; 2) list devs that are available and can be hired to work on short term projects; The second aspect seems o

[issue25194] Register of Financial Interests for core contributors

2015-09-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
New submission from Nick Coghlan: As suggested at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2015-September/003556.html, this is a draft patch for a new section in the developer guide that allows core contributors to declare our major financial interest (if any) in the core developme