[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall
Cody Piersall added the comment: Agreed. "An ounce of data is worth a pound of theory" as the saying goes. -- ___ Python tracker ___ _

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Afraid it's not possible - that error comes from the loader, so we haven't had a chance to run anything yet. One option would be to put some sort of readme into the zip, but that seems to be optimising for the wrong behavior. If I were legitimately embedding this

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall
Cody Piersall added the comment: Yeah, having "embeddable" in the name is a good hint, I think. It was almost enough for me to not even try downloading it. Is it possible / even worth the time to give a more helpful error message? I'm not sure that it's possible, based on when the dll is lao

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: That's exactly the use case, and I might "borrow" your summary for the docs that I'll eventually write for it because you've summed it up really well. My biggest worry right now is that people will treat it as a portable install and run into exactly the issue tha

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall
Cody Piersall added the comment: Ah! That makes sense. I still think the embeddable Python could be useful, but I don't actually have a vested interest in it at the moment. Mostly I feel like it would be useful if Python is an implementation detail of an application, and you want to make sure

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Dower
Steve Dower added the comment: Yeah, I need to clearly document that you are responsible for installing the C Runtime yourself. My current theory is that embedding applications will also require the CRT (at least those that intend to load python3.dll or python35.dll directly), and so it's bet

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall
Changes by Cody Piersall : -- components: +Windows nosy: +paul.moore, tim.golden, zach.ware type: -> crash ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: You shouldn't need visual studio to install python using the installer. What verison of windows are you using? -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker ___

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread R. David Murray
R. David Murray added the comment: Woops, I see you already said and I missed it. We'll have to wait for Steve to take a look. -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue24679] Windows embeddable Python zip file crashes (cannot find a dll)

2015-07-21 Thread Cody Piersall
New submission from Cody Piersall: Whenever I tried to run the embeddable zip file from https://www.python.org/downloads/windows/ for Python 3.5.0b3, the program crashes with the message > The program can't start because api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll is missing > from your computer. Try rein