Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 27 July 2009, Richard Dale wrote: > It seems to me that you are forming conclusions, when I don't think we > have sufficient data yet. it's at least in part due to watching amarok scripting and what they've been through. > * How much memory and resources (non-shared and shared) does ea

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Saturday 25 July 2009 11:40:52 Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > Hello guys, > > I'm writing to you because I'd like to make a suggestion to make a > containment for errors around each plasmoid, so that when one crashes, it > doesn't take the whole plasma environment with it. > > For example, I had a pro

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-27 Thread Richard Dale
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Baron wrote: > and pardon my ignorance: What is ecma script? Another word for JavaScript or QtScript -- Richard ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-27 Thread David Baron
and pardon my ignorance: What is ecma script? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-27 Thread Richard Dale
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: >> Do not the various interperators or VMs need be loaded in memory to service >> their plasmoids > > so we need to: > > * have full ecma script bindings available > * promote use of ecma script over

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Sunday 26 July 2009, 16:24 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > the real solution is to use scripting languages and make sure the c++ > plugins are absolutely solid. +1 here. It's the sanest (does this word exist in english :) ?) way to do this stuff. Cheers :) ---

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Chani
On July 26, 2009 12:10:25 David Baron wrote: > On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:55 Chani wrote: > > > Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will > > > spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. > > > Caveat--if one died and is still an existing proce

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > [Plasma] Plasmoids as separate processes this will not be implemented. see my other replies in this thread as to why. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: > Do not the various interperators or VMs need be loaded in memory to service > their plasmoids so we need to: * have full ecma script bindings available * promote use of ecma script over other options * use ruby/python only as really needed (e.g access

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: > A similar problem has seemingly been solved, by Google. Since google's > browser is opensource, one might take a look. chrome solves a completely different problem. it displays a completely _different_ canvas (in this case, an html one) in each ta

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:55 Chani wrote: > > Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will > > spawn that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. > > Caveat--if one died and is still an existing process, one must kill it > > before chrome will work corr

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Chani
> > Example of their success: Clicking a link in kmail, for example, will spawn > that as a tab in an existing chrome browser if one is running. Caveat--if > one died and is still an existing process, one must kill it before chrome > will work correctly. Beta. > that's got nothing to do with sepa

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 26 July 2009, David Baron wrote: > A similar problem has seemingly been solved, by Google. Since google's > browser is opensource, one might take a look. > > Every one of those tabs, plugin processes, etc., is a separate process, > shows up on top as such. I have an upload going on n

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread David Baron
A similar problem has seemingly been solved, by Google. Since google's browser is opensource, one might take a look. Every one of those tabs, plugin processes, etc., is a separate process, shows up on top as such. I have an upload going on now, apparently in a chrome process initiated from

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Wow! Well, sounds like you've got a tough job to do, but I'm sure you'll find a way to solve this issue, as always. May you have a happy hacking and a nice day! Cheers, Bogdan On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > On 7/26/09, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > > Oh, well, there is an

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On 7/26/09, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > Oh, well, there is an intense debate on how to accomplish this... > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=45255&start=30 > > Oh everyone brings their pet issue to the table: performance issues, ease of > development, stability. I hope you plasma hackers wil

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Oh, well, there is an intense debate on how to accomplish this... http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=45255&start=30 Oh everyone brings their pet issue to the table: performance issues, ease of development, stability. I hope you plasma hackers will find the middle ground to keep everyone hap

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-26 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Hello, Well, I haven't really thought about a how-to before writing that mail... I was expecting it to work just as for catching crashes with Dr. Krash. But it turns out that there is a solution on Plasma wishlist: [Plasma] Plasmoids as separate processes So I voted for it and I hope someone wil

Re: containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-25 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday 25 July 2009, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > I'm writing to you because I'd like to make a suggestion to make a > containment for errors around each plasmoid, so that when one crashes, it > doesn't take the whole plasma environment with it. and how do you suggest this is accomplished, exactl

containing plasmoid crashes

2009-07-25 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Hello guys, I'm writing to you because I'd like to make a suggestion to make a containment for errors around each plasmoid, so that when one crashes, it doesn't take the whole plasma environment with it. For example, I had a problem with KDE Network Manager plasmoid crashing and taking with it th