Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-14 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Friday 10 April 2009 19:38:24 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > Still that doesn't make it any easier to interpret say '3/4' in front of > > a > > ah and if all are completed, then you can just say "N" instead of "N/N" ... > > so to be ++ verbose, this w

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Jamboarder
Aaron J. Seigo wrote > ... > so to be ++ verbose, this would give us (where N = notification, P = job in > progress, C = job completed): > > ScenarioText > -- > 3 N3 > 3 N, 2 P3/5 > 3 N, 1 C, 1 P4/5 > 1 C, 2 P1/3 > 2 P0

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > Still that doesn't make it any easier to interpret say '3/4' in front of a ah and if all are completed, then you can just say "N" instead of "N/N" ... so to be ++ verbose, this would give us (where N = notification, P = job in progress, C = job c

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > Still that doesn't make it any easier to interpret say '3/4' in front of a > spinner. to me it says "there are four things here, three of which are completed" notifications can therefore be viewed as jobs that completed in zero time. -- Aaron J.

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Friday 10 April 2009 18:58:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > Well, the problem kind of is that the systray shows multiple things: > > running jobs and notifications, which are distinctively different. Still > > are they? > > both are communicating sys

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > Well, the problem kind of is that the systray shows multiple things: > running jobs and notifications, which are distinctively different. Still are they? both are communicating system or application status to the user; both might offer interactio

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Friday 10 April 2009 17:50:54 Marco Martin wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > I've been doing some more thinking about this: what about splitting this > > up in 2 icons? One "i" icon with a number that shows the total amount of > > notifications, and the spinner with a

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 10 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 03:04:32 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > > On Monday 06 April 2009 08:01:16 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > > > > On Monday

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-10 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 03:04:32 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009 08:01:16 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > > > On Monday 06 April 2009 19:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > > wha

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Chani
On April 9, 2009 11:31:28 Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2009 19:55:49 Chani wrote: > > how do you warn the user if they close their laptop lid? :) > > it does make sense for all other triggers, though. > > > > ...hmm, if the warning had a sound effect I might notice when closing my

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Thursday 09 April 2009 19:55:49 Chani wrote: > how do you warn the user if they close their laptop lid? :) > it does make sense for all other triggers, though. > > ...hmm, if the warning had a sound effect I might notice when closing my > laptop. *most* of the time I also wait for it to finish s

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Chani
On April 9, 2009 09:08:38 Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2009 17:48:20 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > > >Even if the icon gets some animation, it is still small and the event > > >"notification closed" is still the same, i.e. the signal remains the > > > same as the user might ju

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Thursday 09 April 2009 17:48:20 dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br wrote: > >Even if the icon gets some animation, it is still small and the event > >"notification closed" is still the same, i.e. the signal remains the same > > as the user might just notice the "it's gone" and not whereto. There have > >

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Thursday 09 April 2009 16:47:41 Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Montag, 6. April 2009 16:30:21 schrieb Rob Scheepmaker: > > Hello, > > > > I wanted to discuss what I think should be improved in the plasma > > systemtray... not the spec, but the jobs/notifications. We discussed some > > of this alrea

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread dantti85-...@yahoo.com.br
>Even if the icon gets some animation, it is still small and the event >"notification closed" is still the same, i.e. the signal remains the same as >the user might just notice the "it's gone" and not whereto. There have been >people stating that they thought the job was done because the notifi

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-09 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Montag, 6. April 2009 16:30:21 schrieb Rob Scheepmaker: > Hello, > > I wanted to discuss what I think should be improved in the plasma > systemtray... not the spec, but the jobs/notifications. We discussed some > of this already at tokamak, but there's still a lot to be done if we want > this to

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-08 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:23:49 Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > Yeah, it contains notifications (both 'normal' and file completed), and > jobs, so indeed it may not be entirely optimal. However, both the in > progress jobs and the completed jobs belong to an ExtenderGroup. The thing > that might help is

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-07 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 03:20:40 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009 09:04:32 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > bonus is that we already have the spinner and we've been using it around > > kde (plasma, gwenview, dolphin .. i keep seeing

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Celeste Lyn Paul
On Monday 06 April 2009 09:04:32 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > > I think the idea of using animation to indicate a current job running is > > a good idea. Is there an icon designed for this yet? At first I thought > > of an animated Down arrow (a met

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 06 April 2009, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009 08:01:16 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > > On Monday 06 April 2009 19:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > what about the busy widget we have? we could just use that, with a >

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Celeste Lyn Paul
On Monday 06 April 2009 08:01:16 pm Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009 19:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > what about the busy widget we have? we could just use that, with a > > > number in the middle of it showing how many jobs are

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009 19:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > > * job widget layout. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think > > > this could be improved. The widget takes up quite some space

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Monday 06 April 2009 19:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > > * job widget layout. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think this > > could be improved. The widget takes up quite some space vertically. I'm > > not sure how we can keep the widget

Re: Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 06 April 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: > * job widget layout. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think this > could be improved. The widget takes up quite some space vertically. I'm not > sure how we can keep the widget compact while still showing all the > information (we'll need t

Systray jobs and notifications

2009-04-06 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
Hello, I wanted to discuss what I think should be improved in the plasma systemtray... not the spec, but the jobs/notifications. We discussed some of this already at tokamak, but there's still a lot to be done if we want this to be implemented for 4.3: * job widget layout. I don't know about