Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-17 Thread Diego Moya
2009/7/16 Martin Gräßlin : > My idea is that with alt+tab it should work as ever known. But that it is not > required to keep alt pressed (keeping it pressed shouldn't harm). There's a way to achieve that goal without breaking the normal alt+tab quasimode behavior. Hold alt + tab as many times as

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-17 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Diego Moya wrote: > 2009/7/16 Martin Gr��lin : >> My idea is that with alt+tab it should work as ever known. But that it is not >> required to keep alt pressed (keeping it pressed shouldn't harm). > > There's a way to achieve that goal without breaking the normal alt+tab > quasimode behavior. > >

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-17 Thread Jacopo De Simoi
On Friday 17 July 2009 10:32:32 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 21:49:24 schrieb Thomas Lübking: > > now my 2¢ on the whole suggestion: > > > > imho there two different approaches to switch windows. > > - one is "on the fly" - which is good if you've got 2 up to 4 op

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-17 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 21:49:24 schrieb Thomas Lübking: > now my 2¢ on the whole suggestion: > > imho there two different approaches to switch windows. > - one is "on the fly" - which is good if you've got 2 up to 4 open windows, > therefore the current concept is pretty much ok. >

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Lucas Murray
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: * Keyboard grab makes it impossible to use the search in present windows effect http://www.undefinedfire.com/kde/alttabbing-lots-windows-quickly/ As it's now possible to deactivate effects with their specified shortcut I suppose doing

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Martin Gräßlin wrote: > * Why do we have to hold the alt key while switching? Can't we break with > the > concept? (get rid of the keyboard grab) <- here I need input from the > usability experts. Would it be ok to break with such a concept although all > other plattforms use it? What could be

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 16 July 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > I'm sending this mail to kwin, plasma and usability mailing list, so please > respond to all lists :-) > > I'm currently thinking of reimplementing the classical tabbox > (non-composited alt+tab) from scratch and I want to share my ideas with you >

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Thursday 16 July 2009 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > My idea is that with alt+tab it should work as ever known. But that it is > not required to keep alt pressed (keeping it pressed shouldn't harm). that's not gonna work. right now the selected window gets activated (i.e. the switch is performed) as

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
On Thursday 16 July 2009 16:59:44 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > So now my ideas what a new implementation could provide. Sorry no > mockups Please, add mockups :-). Unless you like to hear comments of what other subscribers think of their guesses. I see mockup, I am 100% sure what I am talking about

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 20:36:38 schrieb Chani: > On July 16, 2009 11:25:48 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > please keep the other mailinglists in CC as this is probably the only > > issue realy relevant for usability group > > > > Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 20:02:32 schrieb Jacopo De Simoi: > > > On T

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Chani
On July 16, 2009 11:25:48 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > please keep the other mailinglists in CC as this is probably the only issue > realy relevant for usability group > > Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 20:02:32 schrieb Jacopo De Simoi: > > On Thursday 16 July 2009 19:32:14 Chani wrote: > > > > * Why do we

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
please keep the other mailinglists in CC as this is probably the only issue realy relevant for usability group Am Donnerstag 16 Juli 2009 20:02:32 schrieb Jacopo De Simoi: > On Thursday 16 July 2009 19:32:14 Chani wrote: > > > * Why do we have to hold the alt key while switching? Can't we break

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Jacopo De Simoi
On Thursday 16 July 2009 19:32:14 Chani wrote: > > > * Why do we have to hold the alt key while switching? Can't we break with > > the concept? (get rid of the keyboard grab) <- here I need input from the > > usability experts. Would it be ok to break with such a concept although all > > other pl

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Chani
> * Why do we have to hold the alt key while switching? Can't we break with > the concept? (get rid of the keyboard grab) <- here I need input from the > usability experts. Would it be ok to break with such a concept although all > other plattforms use it? What could be a better solution than pre

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Jacopo De Simoi
> Comments and espicially help on implementation are more than welcome. We already have a staticQueryMode for user switching; we could perhaps add a "simpleQueryMode" with just a LineEdit without history (of course) and the close button, with queries restricted to a single runner, which will in

Re: Reworking the kwin tabbox

2009-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 16 July 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Does Plasma has interest in using something shared. That is would it be > reasonable to provide a runner and just trigger the krunner interface from > kwin? sure; i don't know if it would work perfectly in practice, but it's certainly worth a try.